need help setting up network

[Guest]

I've got a desktop, running Windows XP ME, that connects to the internet
successfully via ethernet to a Linksis Wireless G router w/4 port switch. My
laptop, also running Windows XP ME, connects successfully to the internet
via the same Linksis router whether by WiFi or ethernet. I just can't get
the two computers to talk to each other. I've run the Network Wizzard on
both to no avail. I've hook them up directly to each other before and had
that network working. But throw in the router and it's no deal. Any ideas
on what I might need to do?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I've got a desktop, running Windows XP ME, that connects to the internet
successfully via ethernet to a Linksis Wireless G router w/4 port switch. My
laptop, also running Windows XP ME, connects successfully to the internet
via the same Linksis router whether by WiFi or ethernet. I just can't get
the two computers to talk to each other. I've run the Network Wizzard on
both to no avail. I've hook them up directly to each other before and had
that network working. But throw in the router and it's no deal. Any ideas
on what I might need to do?

Thanks,

Joe

What connection method did you specify to the Network Setup Wizard?
The right one for your setup is "This computer connects to the
Internet through a residential gateway or through another computer on
my network". Other options can block file and printer sharing.

Configure any firewall program (Norton, McAfee, ZoneAlarm, etc) to
allow access by other computers on the local area network.
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[Guest]

Ihad the same problem.
I had a dell wireless laptop with mcAfee. I did what you said and it worked.
Thanks Terry (e-mail address removed) Kamloops Bc Canada

 

[Guest]

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Joe

What connection method did you specify to the Network Setup Wizard?
The right one for your setup is "This computer connects to the
Internet through a residential gateway or through another computer on
my network". Other options can block file and printer sharing.

Configure any firewall program (Norton, McAfee, ZoneAlarm, etc) to
allow access by other computers on the local area network.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Thanks for the reply Steve. I've tried your suggestions to no avail. Someone else had suggested that I use msconfig to eliminate everything at startup to make sure a firewall wasn't running. I tried that and that also did not work. I thought things were finally working when an icon for my desktop showed up on my laptop. However when I click on it I get the error message:

"Desktop is not available. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have access permissions.

The network path was not found."

Meanwhile my desktop is giving me another error message:

"Home is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network
resource. Contact administrator of this server to find out if you have
access permissions.

The list servers for this workgroup is not currently available."

I've gotten similar error messages on my laptop ending with "Directory
Services not running"

If it is of any value my desktop is just two weeks old and I'm just in the
process of setting it up. My laptop is only about two months old. I tried a
patch cable between the two and could not get them to connect this way
either. I had done this with my old desktop and old laptop but not with the
two new ones. I do have the wireless network working fine, its secured,
restricted with mac addresses (for both my laptop and Palm) and encrypted.

Everything I've read on this subject points to the firewalls. I'm running
Norton Internet Security 2007 on the laptop and 2006 on the desktop. As I
stated earlier both have been turned off and for extra measure all startup
items unchecked so nothing is started with Windows. I also made sure the
Windows firewall is off in each. What's left, uninstalling them?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Thanks for the reply Steve. I've tried your suggestions to no avail. Someone else
had suggested that I use msconfig to eliminate everything at startup to make sure
a firewall wasn't running. I tried that and that also did not work. I thought things
were finally working when an icon for my desktop showed up on my laptop.
However when I click on it I get the error message:

"Desktop is not available. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have access permissions.

The network path was not found."

Meanwhile my desktop is giving me another error message:

"Home is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network
resource. Contact administrator of this server to find out if you have
access permissions.

The list servers for this workgroup is not currently available."

I've gotten similar error messages on my laptop ending with "Directory
Services not running"

If it is of any value my desktop is just two weeks old and I'm just in the
process of setting it up. My laptop is only about two months old. I tried a
patch cable between the two and could not get them to connect this way
either. I had done this with my old desktop and old laptop but not with the
two new ones. I do have the wireless network working fine, its secured,
restricted with mac addresses (for both my laptop and Palm) and encrypted.

Everything I've read on this subject points to the firewalls. I'm running
Norton Internet Security 2007 on the laptop and 2006 on the desktop. As I
stated earlier both have been turned off and for extra measure all startup
items unchecked so nothing is started with Windows. I also made sure the
Windows firewall is off in each. What's left, uninstalling them?

Thanks,

Joe

Start the computers in "Safe mode with networking" -- that's better
than eliminating startup items in Msconfig.

If networking works in that mode, it's very likely that Norton
Internet Security is causing the problem and needs to be configured.

The only sure way to tell whether a firewall like Norton is causing
problems is to un-install the firewall.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Guest]

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Joe

Start the computers in "Safe mode with networking" -- that's better
than eliminating startup items in Msconfig.

If networking works in that mode, it's very likely that Norton
Internet Security is causing the problem and needs to be configured.

The only sure way to tell whether a firewall like Norton is causing
problems is to un-install the firewall.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Hi Steve,

Thanks for your reply. I uninstalled Norton, still no luck. I did connect
the two computers together directly using the wizard to create a new network
with each connecting through the router. I then disconnected them from each
other and connected them to the router. It worked for a little bit.
Immediately I had access from either computer to the other. Problem was I
really want the laptop connected wirelessly. Since I had that part working I
disconnected the ethernet cable, re-enabled the wireless and tried
communicating with the desktop. No go. I put the cable back and now that no
longer works. Any more ideas?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[Guest]

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Joe

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Joe




Thanks for your reply. I uninstalled Norton, still no luck. I did connect
the two computers together directly using the wizard to create a new network
with each connecting through the router. I then disconnected them from each
other and connected them to the router. It worked for a little bit.
Immediately I had access from either computer to the other. Problem was I
really want the laptop connected wirelessly. Since I had that part working I
disconnected the ethernet cable, re-enabled the wireless and tried
communicating with the desktop. No go. I put the cable back and now that no
longer works. Any more ideas?

Thanks,

Joe

New Update
I can now ping each computer and by putting the IP addresses in a command
line prompt I can view the printers, faxes and shared folders. These just
are not available at "My Network Places". A SharedDocs icon appears but when
I click on it I get the error message "the network path was not found". The
desktop will show icons for available network computers but the same error
message appears when I click on the laptop icon. The laptop will not show
any icons for available network computers but gives another error message
that "the list of servers for this network is not currently available".

I was trying to keep things clean and neat by shortening the name from
MSHome to just Home but overlooked that once and now have two workgroups.
Any way to delete one? Any ideas for the above?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[Guest]

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Joe



New Update
I can now ping each computer and by putting the IP addresses in a command
line prompt I can view the printers, faxes and shared folders. These just
are not available at "My Network Places". A SharedDocs icon appears but when
I click on it I get the error message "the network path was not found". The
desktop will show icons for available network computers but the same error
message appears when I click on the laptop icon. The laptop will not show
any icons for available network computers but gives another error message
that "the list of servers for this network is not currently available".

I was trying to keep things clean and neat by shortening the name from
MSHome to just Home but overlooked that once and now have two workgroups.
Any way to delete one? Any ideas for the above?

Thanks,

Joe

I have a linksys router 4 port wireless wrt54gl. I spent 1.5 hours with
tech support from linksys. Maybe you should try that. Too many things and
settings for me to remeber. He did to make it all work, about 5 changes in
all. Thanks Terry

 

[Guest]

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Joe

I have a linksys router 4 port wireless wrt54gl. I spent 1.5 hours with
tech support from linksys. Maybe you should try that. Too many things and
settings for me to remeber. He did to make it all work, about 5 changes in
all. Thanks Terry

Thanks for the reply Terry,

Mine is a wrt54g. So were the changes to the router or Windows settings.

Thanks,

Joe

 

[Guest]

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Joe

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Joe




Thanks for the reply Terry,

Mine is a wrt54g. So were the changes to the router or Windows settings.

Thanks,

Joe

Well I finally got it solved with the help of Ed at pcguidebook.com. I had
to edit my registry on the desktop:

Registry location:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters
Key: DhcpNodeType
Value Type: REG_DWORD - Number
Valid Range: 1,2,4,9 (B-node, P-node, M-node, H-node)
Default: 1 or 8 based on WINS server configuration
Description: This optional parameter specifies the NBT node type. It is
written by the DHCP client service, if enabled. This parameter determines
what methods NetBT uses to register and resolve names. A B-node system uses
broadcasts. A P-node system uses only point-to-point name queries to a name
server (WINS). An M-node system broadcasts first and then queries the name
server. An H-node system queries the name server first and then broadcasts.
Resolution through LMHOSTS and /or DNS, if enabled, follows these methods.
If this key is not present the system defaults to B-node if there is no WINS
servers configured for the network. The system defaults to H-node if there
is at least one WINS server configured.

The information I got was essentially any node would work other than P-node.
My laptop was set to 4 (M-node) and my desktop to 2 (P-node). I change the
2 to 4 and everything works perfectly.

Joe