Need help moving hard drive to ne PC

[phdfromic]

I have a Maxtor 10GB drive, model 91010D6. It was on a Dell Dimension
Windows 98 PC whose power pack failed, and it's not worth replacing
the power pack, but I do want the data. Dell told me that the hard
drive is compatible with my new Dimension 4700 and their service
manual shows how to connect a second hard drive.

I need help with two things:

1. The Maxtor drive needs to be connected to the SATA connector on the
board. I don't know how to specify what cable I need to make that
connection.

2. The drive has a 39-pin connection, and a 9-pin connection with a
jumper. Which do I use, and what do I do with the jumper ?

 

[John John]

Are you telling us that the Dimension 4700 has no IDE
controller/connections? There is nowhere on the motherboard to connect
the drive?

John

 

[Richard in AZ]

I have a Maxtor 10GB drive, model 91010D6. It was on a Dell Dimension
Windows 98 PC whose power pack failed, and it's not worth replacing
the power pack, but I do want the data. Dell told me that the hard
drive is compatible with my new Dimension 4700 and their service
manual shows how to connect a second hard drive.

I need help with two things:

1. The Maxtor drive needs to be connected to the SATA connector on the
board. I don't know how to specify what cable I need to make that
connection.

2. The drive has a 39-pin connection, and a 9-pin connection with a
jumper. Which do I use, and what do I do with the jumper ?

The 9-pin connection with jumper is used to tell the computer that your drive is either, the master,
the slave or using cable select on a ribbon cable off the IDE controller. The label on the drive
should tell you where to place the jumper. You will need a ribbon cable to connect the drive to
your IDE controller, it does not connect to the SATA controller.

That said, you should take it to a technician (not a big box store like "Best Buy") and pay him/her
to walk you through the steps and tell you why each step is required.

 

[phdfromic]

Are you telling us that the Dimension 4700 has no IDE
controller/connections? There is nowhere on the motherboard to connect
the drive?

John

There is an IDE cable. I am ignorant of what is needed, and would
welcome instruction.

This is the text of the Dell manual:

"General Installation Guidelines

Connect serial ATA hard drives to the system board connectors labeled
SATA-0 or SATA-2. Connect CD/DVD drives to the connector labeled PRI
IDE.

When you connect two IDE devices to a single IDE interface cable and
configure them for the cable select setting, the device attached to
the last connector on the interface cable is primary or the boot
device (drive 0), and the device attached to the middle connector on
the interface cable is the secondary device (drive 1). See the drive
documentation in your upgrade kit for information on configuring
devices for the cable select setting.
Connecting Drive Cables

When you install a drive, you connect two cables-a DC power cable and
a data cable-to the back of the drive and to the system board."

I understood it to mean that hard drives are connected to the SATA
connection, and CD/DVDs to IDE.
You seem to be suggesting that I use IDE.

 

[John John]

There is an IDE cable. I am ignorant of what is needed, and would
welcome instruction.

This is the text of the Dell manual:

"General Installation Guidelines

Connect serial ATA hard drives to the system board connectors labeled
SATA-0 or SATA-2. Connect CD/DVD drives to the connector labeled PRI
IDE.

When you connect two IDE devices to a single IDE interface cable and
configure them for the cable select setting, the device attached to
the last connector on the interface cable is primary or the boot
device (drive 0), and the device attached to the middle connector on
the interface cable is the secondary device (drive 1). See the drive
documentation in your upgrade kit for information on configuring
devices for the cable select setting.
Connecting Drive Cables

When you install a drive, you connect two cables-a DC power cable and
a data cable-to the back of the drive and to the system board."

I understood it to mean that hard drives are connected to the SATA
connection, and CD/DVDs to IDE.
You seem to be suggesting that I use IDE.

Yes! You have an IDE drive, connect it to one of the IDE connections on
the motherboard. Do you intend on permanantly keeping the drive in the
newer computer? If no then you can just temporarilly attach it to one
of the IDE controllers, copy your data files off of it then disconnect
it. If you want to permanently keep it then you will have to see if you
have a spare drive bay for it and you will have to decide on which IDE
controller to connect it and decide if it is to be a Master or Slave to
another drive or device. You may need the following instructions to
access the files on the drive:

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

John

 

[Bob I]

There is an IDE cable. I am ignorant of what is needed, and would
welcome instruction.

This is the text of the Dell manual:

"General Installation Guidelines

Connect serial ATA hard drives to the system board connectors labeled
SATA-0 or SATA-2. Connect CD/DVD drives to the connector labeled PRI
IDE.

When you connect two IDE devices to a single IDE interface cable and
configure them for the cable select setting, the device attached to
the last connector on the interface cable is primary or the boot
device (drive 0), and the device attached to the middle connector on
the interface cable is the secondary device (drive 1). See the drive
documentation in your upgrade kit for information on configuring
devices for the cable select setting.
Connecting Drive Cables

When you install a drive, you connect two cables-a DC power cable and
a data cable-to the back of the drive and to the system board."

I understood it to mean that hard drives are connected to the SATA
connection, and CD/DVDs to IDE.
You seem to be suggesting that I use IDE.

That's only because the unit ships with SATA hard drives and "PATA" or
IDE CD/DVD. If you have an IDE/Parallel ATA drive, it will connect to
the IDE cable.

 

[Anna]

I have a Maxtor 10GB drive, model 91010D6. It was on a Dell Dimension
Windows 98 PC whose power pack failed, and it's not worth replacing
the power pack, but I do want the data. Dell told me that the hard
drive is compatible with my new Dimension 4700 and their service
manual shows how to connect a second hard drive.

I need help with two things:

1. The Maxtor drive needs to be connected to the SATA connector on the
board. I don't know how to specify what cable I need to make that
connection.

2. The drive has a 39-pin connection, and a 9-pin connection with a
jumper. Which do I use, and what do I do with the jumper ?

phdfromic:
As you've heard from others that 10 GB HDD is a PATA HDD, not a SATA HDD.

Be that as it may, let me suggest the following...

Forget about connecting that HDD as an internal HDD in your Dell machine.
Rather, purchase a USB enclosure (they're very, very cheap nowadays), simply
install the HDD in the enclosure (a very simple process), connect it to one
of your USB ports on the Dell and access its contents that way.

You can use that USB enclosure to house a HDD (hopefully one that has a lot
more disk capacity than your 10 GB one) and use the device evermore for
backup/storage capability.
Anna

 

[Galen Somerville]

Yes! You have an IDE drive, connect it to one of the IDE connections on
the motherboard. Do you intend on permanantly keeping the drive in the
newer computer? If no then you can just temporarilly attach it to one of
the IDE controllers, copy your data files off of it then disconnect it.
If you want to permanently keep it then you will have to see if you have a
spare drive bay for it and you will have to decide on which IDE controller
to connect it and decide if it is to be a Master or Slave to another drive
or device. You may need the following instructions to access the files on
the drive:

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

John

Many new motherboards rely on SATA hard drives. They generally have one IDE
connector for CD/DVD use.

Galen

 

[phdfromic]

I successfully connected the old 10GB hard drive with the IDE cable.
It worked very smoothly.
Since my box can accomodate a second hard drive I decided to install
it permanently as a data backup. That's a bit better than my 100MB
Zip drive !

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to offer help and advice. I
really appreciate it.
Case closed.