My opinions on MIDI synths present on sound cards

[Radium]

Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
be annoyed. I hate PCI sound cards and their sick sample-playback MIDI
synth.

PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.

I just wish the audio communties would revert back to real,
non-emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there.

FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa

SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its
all kakaa-like emulation.

SB16 PCI has the disadvantages of SB16 ISA [e.g. limitation to 16-bit
resolution] without the advantages [e.g. *real* FM synthesis]. All SB16
PCIs should be burned in oxyacetylene flames.

AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called "Yamaha FM synth". I
don't really like it though, it is emulation. The Avance sound card has
"Avance FM synth", but its also a real stinker as it isn't a real
synth. The evil PCI loves to inflict pain on other types of slot -- ISA
being the unfortunate victim. PCI cards don't contain real FM synth.

Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only
'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human
diarrhea kakaa foam. I don't understand why a PCI card cannot contain a
real FM synth like Creative Music Synth [220]. Is there a technical
barrier to this?

I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness,
warmth, and liveliness *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous -- or
rather KAKAA-FOAMous -- fart of emulation.

Creative Music Synth [220] = SB16 ISA's FM synth = my favorite MIDI
synth.

I don't care for other MIDI synths.

Creative Music Synth [220] is:

1. Real

and

2. Digital

and

3. Hardware

and

4. Real-time

All other FM synths are okay. Wavetables are also good. But I don't
care for them.

Here is my ratings for *soundcard* MIDI synths in the order from best
to worst:

1. Creative Music Synth [220]
2. All digital hardware FM synths other than Creative Music Synth [220]

3. Wavetables, non-FM digital synths, analog [non-digital] synths
4. Sample-playback synths

Sample-playback synths are the worst.

Sample playback synths STEE<insert infinite amounts of
'E'>EENKS!!<insert infinite amounts of '!'>!!

Sample-playback MIDI synths are the worst audio equipment ever. They
are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy, irritating, farty, hissy,
terrifying, disgusting, and annoying.

I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so
warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent.

The only thing about Creative Labs that I like is their Creative Music
Synth [220]. Other than that, they are a piece of kakaa.

Creative Labs is one f--king piece of crap that provides sh--ty
customer service. Their tech support is so limited.

Creative Technology used to be such a great company 13 years ago. Now
there are nothing but stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-humans.

I've asked them about Creative Music Synth [220] only to be
totally-ignored.

Creative Labs also uses such f--ked up sickening disgusting
sample-playback synths in their PCI cards.

I wish that a gang of persons who support Creative Music Synth [220]
would attack Creative Technology and force them to make hardware
versions of Creative Music Synth [220] upgraded from 16-bit to 32-bit
and from 44.1 Khz to 192 Khz. And from there, keep on upgrading!

If Creative Technology refuses, I hope the CMS220-advocating gang ties
up the people who make up that company and torturously force them to
repeatedly listen to sample-playback MIDI synths and emulation until
those Creative personnel are annoyed with burning headaches and are
deathly desperate for an escape. Only then will the people of Creative
Technology do the right thing -- make upgraded versions of Creative
Music Synth [220].

A rich spoiled-rotten company like Creative deserves to be heinously
hijacked and forced to do their duties.

I feel like torching the chips of sample-playback synths with
oxyacetylene flames to distort their audio output.

Anyone who respectfully uses any sample-playback MIDI synth needs to be
put in a mental hospital ASAP for his/her own good as he is a danger
to him/herself.

Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth.

Its those sample-playback synths that are crap.

Sadly most MIDI magazines advertise the kakaa-stinky sample playback as
a good thing often referring to them as "wavetables". These sick
marketers call sample-playback synthesis "realistic sounding".

Sample-playbacks synths are nothing more than the sound of a stinky
fart emitted from a human colon.

I've been looking hard for true FM synths. No luck. Most PCI cards have
OPL emulation. I hate FM emulation. FM emulation -- much like any
sample-playback synthesis -- is to the ear what human kakaa is to the
nose.

I want *real* FM synthesis not some stinky trashy out-of-a-human-behind
emulation.

Those stinky-f==king marketers who refer to sample-playback synthesis
as "wavetables" deserve to be thrown into the sewer and made to eat
their own crap.

There is a world of different between sample-playback synthesis and
wavetable synthesis.

Wavetable synthesis is so much better than any kakaa-spitting
sample-playback synth but not nearly as heavenly as *true* FM
synthesis. Of all the *true* FM synths, Creative Music Synth [220] is
my favorite.

If a synth is *not*:

1. *Real*

AND

2. *Digital*

AND

3. *Real-time*

AND

4. *Hardware*

then it,
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE­EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE­EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE­EEEEEEEEEEENKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is what I would like to do. I would like to make some replicable
electronic nanobots that will search for sample playback MIDI synths in
any part of the world and attach to the digital chips of
sample-playback MIDI synths. These nanobots should contain magnetic
receivers that will extract any random enviromental magnetic audio
signals 2 khz and 50 khz [excluding spikes, square-waves, white noise,
brown noise, pink noise and bass sounds]. The nanobots then amplify
those signals to the point where they would significantly interfere
with -- and cause inductive crosstalk in -- the audio signals in the
digital electronic chips of the sample-playback MIDI synths.

That way all companies will be forced to make *real* synths and the
listeners will be forced to adapt to the excellent audio quality of
*real* synths. For those who miss their stinky human kakaa foam of
sample-playback synths, well, f--k them!

I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so-called 'karaoke
voice cancellor' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo chanel [right
or left] and then combines it the other channel -- which results in
anything identical in both the left and right channels being removed. I
get a mono of what was different in the left and right channels.

When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the
voice-cancellor, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and
crisper than when I don't use the voice-cancellor.

Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Radium

 

[JAD]

Big deal about nothing

 

[Radium]

Big deal about nothing

Easy for you to say

 

[John McGaw]

Big deal about nothing

Yeah. If somebody really cared about the quality of their MIDI
synthesizer they at least drop a couple of big ones and by a Roland
V-SynthXT or something equally professional. Like many things in life,
when things are going your way you actually will get what you pay for.

 

[Radium]

Yeah. If somebody really cared about the quality of their MIDI
synthesizer they at least drop a couple of big ones and by a Roland
V-SynthXT or something equally professional. Like many things in life,
when things are going your way you actually will get what you pay for.

V Synth XT is a sick f--k of sample-playback MIDI synth. F--k that
crap.

I prefer *real* FM synthesis. Not the emulation piece of c** you get on
PCI KAKAArds

 

[ShazWozza]

FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa

FM synthesis is NOT sample playback you idiot. It is a frequency modulation
technique used to generate lots of harmonics which can then be filtered to
make instrument like sounds.

To generate accurate musical sounds you must use sampled sounds aka
wavetable synthesis.

 

[Radium]

FM synthesis is NOT sample playback you idiot.

Obviously. I already knew that. Feel free to quote when and where I
equated FM synthesis with sample playback.

FM synthesis is NOT sample playback. FM emulation, OTOH, is sample
playback. Any audio emulation is sample playback.

It is a frequency modulation
technique used to generate lots of harmonics which can then be filtered to
make instrument like sounds.
Yup.

To generate accurate musical sounds you must use sampled sounds aka
wavetable synthesis.

Um, no. Sample playback and wavetable synthesis are two totally
different entities.

Check out this link:

http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Wavetable-101.pdf

Wavetable synthesis is far superior to the kakaa-stink of sample
playback synthesis.

F--k sample-playback

 

[ShazWozza]

Obviously. I already knew that. Feel free to quote when and where I
equated FM synthesis with sample playback.

You said "FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback."

Um, no. Sample playback and wavetable synthesis are two totally
different entities.

Umm no. Samples and wavetable synthesis are the same critter regardless of
what you may say. The wavetable is constructed from finely sliced
samples. Depending on the quality of the sound you want to reproduce, you
will need to take samples every few semi-tones.

 

[Nil]

I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups --
before but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to
those who might be annoyed. I hate PCI sound cards and their sick
sample-playback MIDI synth.

Get over it. You're making a big deal out of nothing. Nobody is
forcing you to use the on-board synth. If you don't like it synth, get
an outboard one.

The on-board synth's purpose is to mimic real instruments well
enough for the average user to playback a MIDI file and hear
recognizable instruments. You get synthetic sounds out of FM synths.
That's not appropriate to the task. The basic on-board one is good
enough for 98% of the users.

Quit yer whining.

 

[Mike Walsh]

I installed a SB16 card in my first home PC. It had an FM synthesizer, as the wavetable option was quite expensive. It would be magnanimous to say that the sound was mediocre. Sound cards I have had since have wave table MIDI and sound like real music. Maybe some people prefer the sound of synthesizers.

FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa

FM synthesis is NOT sample playback you idiot. It is a frequency modulation
technique used to generate lots of harmonics which can then be filtered to
make instrument like sounds.

To generate accurate musical sounds you must use sampled sounds aka
wavetable synthesis.

 

[Davej]

I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
be annoyed. I hate PCI sound cards and their sick sample-playback MIDI
synth. [...]

Rather than whine about it, why not use the external midi port? You
can buy whatever external synth you care to. I suspect it would have
to be GM/GS to work well but you might be able to make your own
mapping scheme. If you want an FM synth then go buy one...

http://instruments.search.ebay.com/fm-synth_Musical-
Instruments_W0QQcatrefZC12QQsacatZ619

 

[Radium]

You said "FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback."

FM emulation is not FM synthesis. They are two different things. FM
synthesis is the generation of real FM tones, whereas FM emulation
consists of samples of the FM sounds. Big difference.

 

[Radium]

If anyone has a valid email address I can send them some WMA files of
MIDI audio both from my SB16 ISA as well as the SoundMAX piece-of-
human-kakaa synth my other PC. I'll then let you compare the two.

I installed a SB16 card in my first home PC. It had an FM synthesizer, as the wavetable option was quite expensive. It would be magnanimous to say that the sound was mediocre. Sound cards I have had since have wave table MIDI and sound like real music. Maybe some people prefer the sound of synthesizers.

Radium wrote:

FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa

FM synthesis is NOT sample playback you idiot. It is a frequency modulation
technique used to generate lots of harmonics which can then be filtered to
make instrument like sounds.

To generate accurate musical sounds you must use sampled sounds aka
wavetable synthesis.--

Mike Walsh
West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S.A.

 

[chris_k]

Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
be annoyed. I hate PCI sound cards and their sick sample-playback MIDI
synth.

<snip>


Here's an ISA to USB 2.0 adapter. Problem solved.

http://www.arstech.com/item--usb2isa.html


Let me know if it works.

 

[FKS]

Then, get a real synth manufactured by Roland, Korg, Yamaha, Access, Moog,
etc. What do you expect from a $100 card?

 

[Radium]

Then, get a real synth manufactured by Roland, Korg, Yamaha, Access, Moog,
etc. What do you expect from a $100 card?

I would like a real Creative Music Synth [220]. Doesn't have to be in
a sound card. It could be a keyboard, a MIDI box or in any other form.

Sadly, its not gonna happen because the mechanism by which Creative
Music Synth [220] is kept classified as top-secret by Creative
Technology Ltd. CMS220 is no longer made yet the sick @$$ company
still keeps the working of CMS220 a secret.

Creative Technology is a stubborn piece of crap. F--k those stingy
secretive bastards.