MSAS never finds anything

J

Jimbo

Been using MSAS since it came out.
current latest ver build 614 def 5735
MSAS has never ever found anything to remove ??

Spybot finds a few things .

Ad-Aware SE finds many items all the time ??

So Why
Bottom line MSAS never has found one single spyware item ??
 
W

Walterius

Because you are removing them with the other three?

Because your computer is too clean? Visit a porn site with your security
turned off, click on whatever it wants you to ("Free access to 15,000 porn
sites!"), and you'll see what I mean. :)

Trust me, MSAS very occasionally finds things the others don't.
I find it particularly good at preventing stuff, rather than removing it.
 
F

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP IE/OE

Jimbo said:
Been using MSAS since it came out.
current latest ver build 614 def 5735
MSAS has never ever found anything to remove ??

Spybot finds a few things .

Ad-Aware SE finds many items all the time ??

So Why
Bottom line MSAS never has found one single spyware item ??

MSAS does not check for cookies since they don't run any code.
 
P

Pen

Walterius said:
Because you are removing them with the other three?

Because your computer is too clean? Visit a porn site with
your security
turned off, click on whatever it wants you to ("Free
access to 15,000 porn
sites!"), and you'll see what I mean. :)

Trust me, MSAS very occasionally finds things the others
don't.
I find it particularly good at preventing stuff, rather
than removing it.

Also, Adaware and Spybot detect cookies, while MSAS
doesn't at this time.
 
W

Walterius

As for cookies, Fred Langa (www.langa.com, home of the superb free Windows
LangaList) has been saying for years (close to ten, now) that there is
nothing wrong with cookies and that they are harmless. But every year
newbies whine that cookies are evil because some idiot told them they were.

I let sites post all the cookies they want. Then after each surfing
expedition, I run Empty Temporary Folders (EmpTemp) and remove them and all
temporary Internet files. I also let a few sites, such as MSFT and
www.nonags.com keep cookies on my machine.

I fail to see any importance whatever to whining that MSAS doesn't spot
cookies. *It doesn't matter that it doesn't.* If you don't want them, turn
them off, and turn them back on for selected sites. Or do what I do and blow
them away after surfing. Or both. Jeesh!
 
W

Walterius

That is true and I solved it by deleting cookies before running Ad-Aware and
SpyBot. Now they don't find any cookies.
 
R

Ron Chamberlin

Jimbo,
In the Beta1 version, the program doesn't go into the cookie jar, nor does
it chase data miner objects.

Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP
 
F

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP IE/OE

Walterius said:
That is true and I solved it by deleting cookies before running
Ad-Aware and SpyBot. Now they don't find any cookies.

I have lots of valuable cookies. Every once in a while I go through the
cookies and delete what I don't want.
 
J

Jimbo

I will dump cookies and then run the three programs to test.
TNX for your helpful comments...
still wonder why after many months MSAS never finds anything to delete ???
 
M

MikeE

MSAS does find thins and is exellent at stopping settings
to be changed and the spyware installing- as I have
found. After installing MSAS it found two spyware
programs (PowerScheduler and Hotbar) which spybot never
detected and Ad-Aware SE had only removed some of Hotbar
but left some files on the machine and never detected
PowerScheduler
..
 
R

Ron Chamberlin

Hi Jimbo,

Cookies are part of a debate of sorts. Do they do bad things? Usually not,
but they can be configured too in exceptional cases? Do they cause damage?
Not usually. Do they reveal your inner most thoughts to people? Depends on
where you surf. :)

I see it more of a privacy issue as opposed to security. I've no idea what
side of the fence this program will come down on, but I wouldn't feel bad if
it gave the user the opportunity to wash out cookies in a selective manner.

I look to the value of MWAS as a preventive, proactive tool. I routinely run
scans on my pc's at home and in the office, and get 0 hits. I like it like
that.

Folks, Please Don't do the following at home:

On the flip side, I was informed of an 'interesting' site today, and went to
it with a test bunny machine which was NOT running MWAS. I did a couple of
not too bright things such as allow popups and accept an Active X control. I
next disconnected from the network, tho I was joined to the domain to start
with, installed MWAS and rebooted into safe mode. Once there I noted about
8 BHO that were now attached to IE that weren't there before. I noted
several new entries in start up. I then started a full scan from Safe
Mode, and went out for coffee. When I returned, MWAS was waiting with a
report about 24 items, and over 200 file and registry entries that were
funky. I whacked them all, booted back into normal and examined the machine.
All was reported as well. All looked good.

Not trusting bad guys, I reimaged the machine.

So, yes, I thinks MWAS works. I think it works pretty well, especially for a
Beta. IMVHO, the 615 release is much more robust than prior builds.

Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP
 

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