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oby
you say this is a virus ladenmessage. how could i tell if i got it. what are
its effects
its effects
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Tim
Microsoft has never and will never distribute updates via newsgroups or email
services.
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com - go here for Windows Operating System
updates
http://www.microsoft.com and find your program, and you can download product
updates from there.
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter - go here for virus list and their effects, as
well as several hoax's floating around on the internet.
And for good computing practice, have installed an anti-virus program such as
Symantec's Norton Antivirus
Tim
services.
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com - go here for Windows Operating System
updates
http://www.microsoft.com and find your program, and you can download product
updates from there.
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter - go here for virus list and their effects, as
well as several hoax's floating around on the internet.
And for good computing practice, have installed an anti-virus program such as
Symantec's Norton Antivirus
Tim
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Stephen Johnson
That's not what he asked! Why don't you read his message?!
Stephen
Stephen
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Stephen Johnson
If you get an email from Microsoft that tells you to download a patch and
has a file attached, you know you got it. Antivirus software will detect it
if they are updated, but you still should open it. If you have a really old
version of Outlook Express, it will launch automatically, but new version
won't.
The effects are not dangerous to yourself as it is a mass-mailing virus. It
looks for addresses on your computer and emails itself to everybody it can.
Stephen
has a file attached, you know you got it. Antivirus software will detect it
if they are updated, but you still should open it. If you have a really old
version of Outlook Express, it will launch automatically, but new version
won't.
The effects are not dangerous to yourself as it is a mass-mailing virus. It
looks for addresses on your computer and emails itself to everybody it can.
Stephen
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FireFox
Some would consider opening up your computer to someone else giving
them full access (most users always us an administrator acct in xp, rather
than creating a simple user acct for normal use) allowing them to launch
distributed denial of service attacks as "dangerous to yourself". This
isn't meant as a "flame" or anything, but just so people don't downplay the
seriousness of these things. IMO you should not use an administrator acct
unless you have to, always use virus protection and some kind of firewall,
and if anything isn't working normally (slowdowns for no apparent reason,
processes that weren't there before (and you didn't install anything new),
etc. you should at least look into it and not have the "oh well" attitude.
DDoS attacks are real and guess what....They are tracked back to you, not
where you got the Trojan/virus from.
Just my 2 cents.
(-: FireFox
p.s. You can create a name in your address book called "aaaaaaaaa" and have
it point to a bogus address. This might clue you in to being infected when
you get a bounce message that "aaaaaaaaa" is an invalid address. Some of
the kiddies making these viruses don't put checks for invalid addresses and
it will stop before going on to your real contacts. Even if it continues
down your list you should still get the bounced mail message letting you
know something's wrong.
*snip*
them full access (most users always us an administrator acct in xp, rather
than creating a simple user acct for normal use) allowing them to launch
distributed denial of service attacks as "dangerous to yourself". This
isn't meant as a "flame" or anything, but just so people don't downplay the
seriousness of these things. IMO you should not use an administrator acct
unless you have to, always use virus protection and some kind of firewall,
and if anything isn't working normally (slowdowns for no apparent reason,
processes that weren't there before (and you didn't install anything new),
etc. you should at least look into it and not have the "oh well" attitude.
DDoS attacks are real and guess what....They are tracked back to you, not
where you got the Trojan/virus from.
Just my 2 cents.
(-: FireFox
p.s. You can create a name in your address book called "aaaaaaaaa" and have
it point to a bogus address. This might clue you in to being infected when
you get a bounce message that "aaaaaaaaa" is an invalid address. Some of
the kiddies making these viruses don't put checks for invalid addresses and
it will stop before going on to your real contacts. Even if it continues
down your list you should still get the bounced mail message letting you
know something's wrong.
*snip*
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Carol
I have had to abandon an email account and set up another because of the
"not dangerous to yourself viruses" going around. It's especially bad for
me as I run an online business and will have to make up new business cards,
stationery, and make sure my customers know my new email addy.
The problem is that ISP's give a limited amount of server space for email
and if it fills up with virus emails with attachments emails will start
bouncing. My email account was filling up every 2 hours. My concern was
not with getting the virus but with having my email account getting filled
and havine business emails bouncing. I know that I've been inundated with
viruses because my customers have me in their address books on infected
computers which weren't dangerous to themselves but made a mess for me. I
also know that it will only be a matter of time that my new email account
will be flooded with viruses that come from infected customers who insist on
having anyone they ever emailed in their address books.
If the person who doesn't care about viruses will give me their email addy,
I will be happy to forward all the ones coming to my old account.
Carol
"not dangerous to yourself viruses" going around. It's especially bad for
me as I run an online business and will have to make up new business cards,
stationery, and make sure my customers know my new email addy.
The problem is that ISP's give a limited amount of server space for email
and if it fills up with virus emails with attachments emails will start
bouncing. My email account was filling up every 2 hours. My concern was
not with getting the virus but with having my email account getting filled
and havine business emails bouncing. I know that I've been inundated with
viruses because my customers have me in their address books on infected
computers which weren't dangerous to themselves but made a mess for me. I
also know that it will only be a matter of time that my new email account
will be flooded with viruses that come from infected customers who insist on
having anyone they ever emailed in their address books.
If the person who doesn't care about viruses will give me their email addy,
I will be happy to forward all the ones coming to my old account.
Carol
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Tim
I thought I did..... I explained that Microsoft never sends patches via email
and newsgroups. It's common sense that if that is the case (which it is), and
you ran it, then you've just installed something not from Microsoft, but a third
party. Why would the third party be masquerading as Microsoft unless it was for
a malicious purpose?
and newsgroups. It's common sense that if that is the case (which it is), and
you ran it, then you've just installed something not from Microsoft, but a third
party. Why would the third party be masquerading as Microsoft unless it was for
a malicious purpose?
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tamerlane
You did a very good job of showing the huge economic impact of what is
basicaly a juvenile prank. Your story will probably never be reported in the
major world newspapers, yet, multiplied out, it adds up to a tremendous
"hit." Further, I have never used my email "address book," and finally feel
vindicated. There are other ways of storing this information.
basicaly a juvenile prank. Your story will probably never be reported in the
major world newspapers, yet, multiplied out, it adds up to a tremendous
"hit." Further, I have never used my email "address book," and finally feel
vindicated. There are other ways of storing this information.
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Paul Reid
oby said:
Hi
Use this removal tool and it will advise you if you have it or not and If
you do then it will remove it.
All the details about this is also on the website and dont worry as its not
a virus.
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[email protected]
l.tool.html
Regards
Paul
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Lorne Smith
Gawd... I've never seen such a stupid post in my life.... Any one taking
this plonkers advice and opening the attachment will be infected with the
virus and will VERY soon regret it...
Stephen: Try taking your own advice and deliberately infect yourself with a
virus... You'll soon be eating your own words, I guarantee!!
Lorne
this plonkers advice and opening the attachment will be infected with the
virus and will VERY soon regret it...
Stephen: Try taking your own advice and deliberately infect yourself with a
virus... You'll soon be eating your own words, I guarantee!!
Lorne
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Stephen Johnson
A worm is still a virus. And this is a worm.
Stephen
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Gordon Burgess-Parker
Stephen said:
Please quote the post you are replying to.
Thank you.
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Stephen Johnson
I didn't even realize I missed a word. I actually meant to say that you
still SHOULDN'T open it. Sorry about any misunderstanding.
Stephen
still SHOULDN'T open it. Sorry about any misunderstanding.
Stephen
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Stephen Johnson
And why do you say infected? This is not a virus that really infects. It
doesn't damage files, just mails itself everywhere. And if everybody has
antivirus like they should, then there wouldn't be a problem.
Stephen
doesn't damage files, just mails itself everywhere. And if everybody has
antivirus like they should, then there wouldn't be a problem.
Stephen
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Gordon Burgess-Parker
Stephen said:
PLEASE QUOTE the post you are replying to!!!!!!
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Stephen Johnson
I post under the post that I'm replying to. That's how it's supposed to
work. I hate it when people quote the whole thread or a whole post in their
reply. It makes for extra reading. Take a look at the "Top-Posting vs.
Bottom-Posting" argument that started on 9/27/2003 at 9:34 PM.
Stephen
work. I hate it when people quote the whole thread or a whole post in their
reply. It makes for extra reading. Take a look at the "Top-Posting vs.
Bottom-Posting" argument that started on 9/27/2003 at 9:34 PM.
Stephen
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Stephen Johnson
You said it a second time?!
Stephen
Stephen
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Ken Blake
In
Although many people use the terms that way loosely, technically
a worm and a virus are two different and distinct things.
Although many people use the terms that way loosely, technically
a worm and a virus are two different and distinct things.
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D.Currie
With a newsgroup as busy as this one, it's quite common to pull in part of aStephen Johnson said:
thread and if you don't quote at least part of what you're replying to, the
response makes no sense to people who haven't got the previous bits of the
thread.
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Stephen Johnson
Pull in part of a thread. I'm using OE, and I just click "Headers" (same as
refresh) until it won't get any more. Then I know I have all the messages.
If somebody does that, then they won't miss any of the conversation. I'm not
gonna change the way I write my messages, and I see that some people don't
appreciate that. But I don't appreciate the way that some people quote the
previous messages. It makes for a lot more data to download if you're
downloading the same message 10 times. So I guess we're gonna disagree and
that's how it's gonna be.
Stephen
refresh) until it won't get any more. Then I know I have all the messages.
If somebody does that, then they won't miss any of the conversation. I'm not
gonna change the way I write my messages, and I see that some people don't
appreciate that. But I don't appreciate the way that some people quote the
previous messages. It makes for a lot more data to download if you're
downloading the same message 10 times. So I guess we're gonna disagree and
that's how it's gonna be.
Stephen