MS screwed up Windows Explorer pretty good in Vista

[atodzia]

I liked Windows Explorer in XP because it worked. Now, basic functions
are hosed.

A few examples:
1) Copying fill from a CD to hard drive and there is the green bar
that shows progress (I guess) and is there long after the there is
activity from the CD ROM drive and the copy status window is gone.
What's up with that?
2) Try to rename a file and I get a Not Responding. I end up creating
a new folder and then copying the files in the old folder, and then
deleting the old folder.

There was another bug last week, and I sure there will be another one
tomorrow. I hope MS makes it a priority to fix Windows Explorer and
make it solid once again.

 

[mikeyhsd]

I have no problems renaming a file.
just have to give the UAC ok.



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I liked Windows Explorer in XP because it worked. Now, basic functions
are hosed.

A few examples:
1) Copying fill from a CD to hard drive and there is the green bar
that shows progress (I guess) and is there long after the there is
activity from the CD ROM drive and the copy status window is gone.
What's up with that?
2) Try to rename a file and I get a Not Responding. I end up creating
a new folder and then copying the files in the old folder, and then
deleting the old folder.

There was another bug last week, and I sure there will be another one
tomorrow. I hope MS makes it a priority to fix Windows Explorer and
make it solid once again.

 

[atodzia]

I shut off UAC a few weeks ago. This doesn't happen all the time, just
sometime.

 

[john]

I have no problems renaming a file.

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[Adam Albright]

windows explorer has more problems then those...


its a total mess

Has been for years going at back to Window 98.

 

[Adam Albright]

I have no problems renaming a file.
just have to give the UAC ok.

Then by definiton you ARE having a problem. Go watch the hour long
movie where the two guys that developed UAC for Microsoft explain the
facts of life and are quite frank in their admissions on what UAC does
right and doesn't.

http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=288259

 

[mikeyhsd]

nope MADAM albright seems to be the only one with problems around here.
personality, mental, childishness, adulthood lacking, etc..... to name a few.



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I have no problems renaming a file.
just have to give the UAC ok.

Then by definiton you ARE having a problem. Go watch the hour long
movie where the two guys that developed UAC for Microsoft explain the
facts of life and are quite frank in their admissions on what UAC does
right and doesn't.

http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=288259

 

[Adam Albright]

nope MADAM albright seems to be the only one with problems around here.
personality, mental, childishness, adulthood lacking, etc..... to name a few.

I don't have any problem with hotheads like you. I just spank you when
it is called for. Shape up and you'll avoid your next spanking.

 

[Shane Nokes]

I hate to tell you this.

XP hides folders by default too.

Then again I don't expect you to know anything.

 

[Shane Nokes]

I love it when the teenagers come out and try to play grown up

 

[Keith Patrick]

Check out a search for "build-in administrator uac vista" and get a real
idea how messed up this whole scheme is. I've been locked out of my machine
in an admin capacity for 3 days (with a project that required admin-level
for debugging was due today). To make things worse, Safe Mode, which should
temporarily reenable Administrator, sees that I have a Media Center Extender
account (it's an admin) but because it doesn't realize the account doesn't
show up on the Welcome screen, it will not re-enable the built-in for me.
Net result: I am completely locked out of my machine. And because I
purchased Vista electronically, I have no DVD with which to boot up the
recovery environment.

This was the week that I turned completely against Microsoft. I'm so pissed
off that I don't even want to write any code targeting .Net any more.

 

[Adam Albright]

Check out a search for "build-in administrator uac vista" and get a real
idea how messed up this whole scheme is. I've been locked out of my machine
in an admin capacity for 3 days (with a project that required admin-level
for debugging was due today). To make things worse, Safe Mode, which should
temporarily reenable Administrator, sees that I have a Media Center Extender
account (it's an admin) but because it doesn't realize the account doesn't
show up on the Welcome screen, it will not re-enable the built-in for me.
Net result: I am completely locked out of my machine. And because I
purchased Vista electronically, I have no DVD with which to boot up the
recovery environment.

This was the week that I turned completely against Microsoft. I'm so pissed
off that I don't even want to write any code targeting .Net any more.

For what is worth, view some this movie of the two guys at Microsoft
that wrote UAC getting interviewed by another MS guy. While it runs 64
minutes it for the most part isn't boring, quite revealing actually
and you do come away with a pretty good understanding of why UAC was
implemented, how it evolved, how it works and why it sometimes don't.

http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=288259

Somewhere near the end they are asked if people can directly reach
them. While they don't give any email addresses in the movie, the guy
behind the camera says he will post it to his site. Didn't bother to
check if or not he did. If so, I expect they are already getting
plenty of mail.

 

[Adam Albright]

I love it when the teenagers come out and try to play grown up

I thought you and Justin were buddies. You two are among the biggest
crybabies here.

 

[Betty]

well for me the XP one was better than the vista one...

An example... a friend of mine got a new laptop with vista preinstalled...
the first thing she did was to open WE
to look at files...

fist thing she asked was.. WHERE ARE MY FOLDERS...

I told her, they are hidden...

-Where?

- See the arrow on the bottom of the left pane....? Press that.

-What arrow?

- ( i send a screenshot showing where with an arrow to be sure she would
not miss it)

- Ok I found it...

Then I went ahead and explained every problem she would encounter before
hand because I knew she would ask where are the menu's etc etc... lol

I saved time.. but I wonder what other people will do who dont
have a geek on messenger helping them...

I must note that this person has been using computers for more than 20
years...

Its just that Vista is very alien.... strange design and non intuative.

I've been using computers since 1997 and about 2 months ago I bought a
desktop with Vista Ultimate installed. I've had no problems finding
anything. I've not needed anybody to help me find or learn all the new
additions Vista offers. I can't believe anybody who's been using computers
20 yrs. could be that dumb!! Sorry, don't mean to offend but that's what it
sounds like to me....either that or laziness.

Betty

 

[Chris]

define hide.

I am not talking about hiding folders with the hide attribute.


When you launch windows explorer on XP you have the folder tree...

if you open my computer you have a HUGE FOLDERS button on the toolbar.

In vista you have a small arrow that gives no clue of its functionality.
It says folders and its pointing up towards icons that look like
folders. So logic dictates that its just telling us that
those things up there are folders. Not press here to show your folders!
Dah........

Furthermore if you click that folders arrow thing, there is no reference
on the interface that if you press it again something else will emerge:
Favorite links. So you have to remember this.

The person who thought of this needs to be dipped in tar,
and sacks of feathers emptied on him.


Perhaps you should join him since it seems that you aggree with this
monsterous GUI mistake!

Maybe it is not the best solution, but it is not a disaster. Come on,
do you really need constant reminding about what to click on? The
folder button in XP was new too. The vast majority of people never use
the explorer view. Those that do, will learn where to click in about
five seconds. In any case, the bread crumb bar is a great improvement.

 

[Keith Patrick]

Problem is that given how tightly, MS locked the OS down, there wasn't room
for error. However, MS is putting too much weight towards security and not
enough towards not introducing other bugs that affect usability. Or maybe
they depend on CTPs for more of their testing (which would be flawed,
IMO....CTPS are more for saying what's good ideas vs not, not what works and
what doesn't). This trend has been going on for 2 years or so from my
perspective. MS-on-MS used to be very reliable (I never saw the Word/Outlook
crashes so many saw). First problems I started seeing was with MSN software
(rushed out the door to compete with google). Toolbar pegs the CPU out,
toolbar won't go away, etc. Then the pegging hit IE7. And Microsoft
released VS2005 - until SP1 of that, it literally crashed on my all-MS
system in the double digits daily. I can't even recall the last hotfix that
I've downloaded that fixed a UI bug.

 

[Shane Nokes]

Interesting, sounds like a bad setting.

For me, by default (and no I haven't changed the default's) when I open
Computer it shows me the folder area off the left, and it's open and showing
my drives.

It has arrows off to the left hand side and when I click on them the folders
drop down in the tree view just fine.

Also when I go to the actual "Windows Explorer" shortcut in the start menu
it brings me right to my user folder.

It also shows me the same folder view off to the left.

I don't see where it's hiding anything there.


Although now that you mention it, if you click on that Folders arrow you
mentioned and shutdown explorer then yes it does stay closed, so it's doing
what you told it to do.

So explain to me how telling the system to not show that menu (which is
shown by default as I hadn't touched it until now) and it actually
remembering what you told it, is a bad thing?

I'm simply confused, first you would complain if it didn't remember a change
you made, and now you are complaining because it did remember a change you
made.

Which would you prefer?

 

[Shane Nokes]

In this entire NG I have only one person who I would consider a "buddy" and
that's only because I know this individual in person and he happens to be a
very nice guy.

That person would be Steve, I leave you to guess which one.

 

[mikeyhsd]

sorry, it takes a better lady than you to spank me.



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nope MADAM albright seems to be the only one with problems around here.
personality, mental, childishness, adulthood lacking, etc..... to name a few.

I don't have any problem with hotheads like you. I just spank you when
it is called for. Shape up and you'll avoid your next spanking.

 

[mikeyhsd]

and her we go again,

WHINE, WHINE, WHINE


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I love it when the teenagers come out and try to play grown up

I thought you and Justin were buddies. You two are among the biggest
crybabies here.