kurttrail said:
I don't think Steve meant quite that way.
You're right, it was my strange sense of humor surfacing again. Oh well.
What I mean is the silence and staying out of it are only lending to the
false perception of the MVPs being some sort of elite group that is
beyond reproach.
Sometimes by being silent,
the bad egg is enabled to keep going on the wrong path.
Exactly.
Okay, let's leave my interaction with a certain very few MVPs out of all
of this for the moment. There have been times where I've felt that a
certain nameless MVP should have been publically criticized for his
posts by his MVP brethren.
That is the bare essence of what I am saying.
Whenever a non-MVP rides his butt about it then that person gets jumped
on for "insulting an MVP" and whatnot. At least that's what's happened
to me and heck, you get jumped on so often I can't keep track of who's
on the Kurt-trampoline at any given time.
It is my observation that there's clearly a misconception about MVPs
here. Heads up folks! MVPs are regular people like me and you that have
the distinction of being recognized by Microsoft for being consitently
helpful in MS communities. That's the key, isn't it? For all of us. Be
helpful. Consistently helpful.
The closest I've seen it happening is when Kelly called the MVP in
question on his inability to follow up in threads he cuts & pastes his
his oft errant replies in.
Yep. I didn't notice him following up on that one, either. I might have
missed it, though. I have some difficulty keeping sync'ed with NG
activity between work and home.
Okay, do all the regulars, MVP & non-MVP, know who I'm talking about?
;-)
Duh.
Hell, I like & respect you Mike, and the vast majority of MVPs I've
crossed paths with,
Same here.
but I have to agree with Steve that the Blue MVP
Wall of Silence needs to be broken on occasion.
I'm not suggesting MVPs publicly outright lambast and shame the guy.
Public criticism/correction accompanied by followup and actual _change_
in behaviour on the part of the one being corrected would be in order I
think. The thing is, this guy shouldn't even be an MVP in the first
place IMO, and how in heck he keeps getting the award is beyond me, but
he might straighten up if what he considers _his_ peers called him on
his BS now and then. I've seen enough MVPs correct and criticize
non-MVPs bozos here lately so I know it's in them to do it. So why hold
back on this particular clown? The obvious answer is because he's an MVP.
And to Steve, I suspect that there are times where MVPs do try to police
their own, but by less public means than in front of the whole group.
I would certainly hope so, but you never know. If it is so then:
1. It hasn't helped, at least not in this case.
2. Doing so in a non-public manner again lends strength to the false
perception of MVPs being an elite group beyond reproach by the attendant
absense of public criticism of one MVP so obviously errant.
People seem to forget that this is a _peer_ group, being awarded an MVP
title doesn't stop one from being a peer, it just means their good
efforts have been officially recognized by MS and they get a title and
some trinkets. An MVP is still one of us and my insistance is that an
MVP be treated as one of us in all regards, including public correction
and criticism.
Okay! I'm ready for the Jews and the Palestinians now! ;-)
LOL! Good luck on that one Kurt! But maybe if you blast `em with your
usual criticism of organized religeons hard enough they'll band together
just to kick yer butt!
Me, I'd rather share a coupla cases of brew with some hippies and
rednecks listenin' to Lynyrd Skynyrd and Neil Young albums.
Steve
