MS-MVP Moniker

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You are terrible, Kurt! All in fun, Jupiter. :o)

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All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
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Al,

Yikes, had to look this one up. Am not a watcher of "boy" movies, etc as
they call it. That said, would like to think of myself outside of that box.
:o)

However this is an interesting concept of yours:

"The Obsidian Order strongly believes in this doctrine, and makes it their
business to know everything and anything. It is therefor reasonable to
conclude that all mistakes are avoidable, therefor no agent of the Order is
permitted to make a mistake, which would invariably result in dreaded
consequences.

The Obsidian Order expects nothing more than complete loyalty to the cause
of the Order, whose demands and existence will always take precedence to
personal morality or beliefs."

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All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
 
Further to what the other MVPs mentioned in this thread, there
are also a few general traits that count when someone wishes to
become an MVP:

- Excellent subject knowledge.
- Making it clear if a given response is based on a tried and proven
solution, or if it an assumption only. If an assumption is not clearly
flagged as such, the OP might make a disastrous decision based
on the MVP's reply.
- The ability to admit an error.
- Keeping one's calm.
- Being able to engage in a objective discussion with other posters
whose opinion differs from one's own.
- Keeping one's language civil, especially when confronted
with abusive words.
- Keeping one's emotions under control, particularly when
contradicted.

Your recent performance in the thread with the subject
"Formatting Hard Drive from Windows XP" suggests that
there is some room for improvement. I suggest you use it
as a valuable experience.
 
Pegasus said:
Further to what the other MVPs mentioned in this thread, there
are also a few general traits that count when someone wishes to
become an MVP:

- Excellent subject knowledge.
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For some, it seems all it takes is knowledge of how to cut & paste.
- Making it clear if a given response is based on a tried and proven
solution, or if it an assumption only. If an assumption is not
clearly flagged as such, the OP might make a disastrous decision
based on the MVP's reply.
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We'll get back to that one later on in this post! ;-)
- The ability to admit an error.
LOL!

- Keeping one's calm.
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ROFL! Especially when it comes to dealing with me!
- Being able to engage in a objective discussion with other posters
whose opinion differs from one's own.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

- Keeping one's language civil, especially when confronted
with abusive words.
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Okay, this one doesn't get broken all that often, but I have seen it on
occasion. And not just when dealing with me.
- Keeping one's emotions under control, particularly when
contradicted.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

For the most part you are right, however there are a FEW MVPs that most
of the non-MVP regulars around here, and I suspect even some of the
MVPs, have to wonder how these very few MVPs were ever awarded! And I'm
not necessarily talking about all those I've identified in my Hall of
Shame, though I'm definitely talking about at least one of them. And
there are a few others not in the Hall of Fame that I wonder how they
were ever awarded and continue to be awarded MVP status.
Your recent performance in the thread with the subject
"Formatting Hard Drive from Windows XP" suggests that
there is some room for improvement. I suggest you use it
as a valuable experience.
Click to expand...

Of course this comment is based on YOUR assumption that he even wants to
be an MVP, and I can think of other reasons why he would have started
this thread without wanting to know how to become an MVP himself. ;-)

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Pegasus said:
Further to what the other MVPs mentioned in this thread, there
are also a few general traits that count when someone wishes to
become an MVP:
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Good list Pegasus, and one we should all try to live up to it, not just
MVPs.

If your list was a test there's one MVP who would get a big, fat, juicy
F. My "grading" follows...
- Excellent subject knowledge.
Bzzzzt!

- Making it clear if a given response is based on a tried and proven
solution, or if it an assumption only. If an assumption is not clearly
flagged as such, the OP might make a disastrous decision based
on the MVP's reply.
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Bzzzzt! Bzzzzt!
- The ability to admit an error.
Click to expand...

Bzzzzt! Bzzzzt! Bzzzzt!
- Keeping one's calm.
- Being able to engage in a objective discussion with other posters
whose opinion differs from one's own.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!

- Keeping one's language civil, especially when confronted
with abusive words.
- Keeping one's emotions under control, particularly when
contradicted.
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That's 4 out of 7 wrong, less than 50%. Yep, that's an F alright.

Steve
 
Steve;
If you feel one or more MVPs are posting improperly, you should give the
information to the correct source.
Posting here only may only be complaining and whining since Microsoft will
probably never see it.
Question 11 on this link:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
Give them specifics such as specific information about a post and how to
locate the post.
Website if applicable.
Otherwise what is said will probably accomplish nothing more than let off
steam with the problem remaining.
 
Jupiter said:
Steve;
If you feel one or more MVPs are posting improperly, you should give
the information to the correct source.
Posting here only may only be complaining and whining since Microsoft
will probably never see it.
Question 11 on this link:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
Give them specifics such as specific information about a post and how
to locate the post.
Website if applicable.
Otherwise what is said will probably accomplish nothing more than let
off steam with the problem remaining.
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It's a waste of time. You are still posting here as a MVP, aren't you,
and you always are doing that childish act of x-ing out part of my
signature, instead of snipping it altogether!

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Kurt;
I remove what I consider irrelevant or offensive similar to most everybody
else.
As for a waste of time, if the comment has no validity or is never made to
the correct channels, you are correct.
 
Jupiter said:
Kurt;
I remove what I consider irrelevant or offensive similar to most
everybody else.
As for a waste of time, if the comment has no validity or is never
made to the correct channels, you are correct.
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LOL! Let's just say it was a waste of MY time, and I'll leave it at
that.

See. That is a childish act. There is nothing wrong with snipping the
entire sig, as OE quotefix does that for me automatically from my
replies when the person I'm replying to has a properly formatted sig.
What is wrong is actually changing what somebody else has written, and
just shows what a lowlife you really are.

And I am continually amused by it! <vbg>

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Jupiter said:
Steve;
If you feel one or more MVPs are posting improperly, you should give the
information to the correct source.
Posting here only may only be complaining and whining since Microsoft will
probably never see it.
Question 11 on this link:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
Give them specifics such as specific information about a post and how to
locate the post.
Website if applicable.
Otherwise what is said will probably accomplish nothing more than let off
steam with the problem remaining.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the link.

Steve
 
kurttrail said:
It's a waste of time. You are still posting here as a MVP, aren't you,
and you always are doing that childish act of x-ing out part of my
signature, instead of snipping it altogether!
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What's a waste of time?

Steve
 
Steve said:
What's a waste of time?

Steve
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Emailing a complaint to (e-mail address removed) about a MVP, as Jupiter was
trying to suggest to you.

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kurttrail said:
Emailing a complaint to (e-mail address removed) about a MVP, as Jupiter was
trying to suggest to you.
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I take it you've done so. Did you get a response?

Steve
 
Jupiter said:
Steve;
If you feel one or more MVPs are posting improperly, you should give the
information to the correct source.
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This group is the source of the errant information so I correct it here
as I see fit. This is where the discussion belongs, not lost or ignored
in some corporate MS inbox. If you feel that my criticisms are out of
line then feel free to not read my posts. If I really step out of line
then I'm sure my posts would be pulled from the servers.
Posting here only may only be complaining and whining since Microsoft will
probably never see it.
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This is not the first time you've used that "complaining and whining"
line on me when I've been critical of MS or an MVP. I find it
condescending and betraying the distinct possibility of a superior
attitude on your part. Criticism and "complaining and whining" are not
the same things. I wish you'd get that.

Also, official Microsoft people have been active here on an increasingly
frequent basis that I have seen lately, so that argument doesn't really
wash.
Question 11 on this link:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
Give them specifics such as specific information about a post and how to
locate the post.
Website if applicable.
Otherwise what is said will probably accomplish nothing more than let off
steam with the problem remaining.
Click to expand...

LOL! I suspect that you take this way more seriously than I do. I
certainly don't get steamed up about any of this.

What my criticisms attempt to accomplish is to keep one of your MVPs
from disseminating the inaccurate information he so frequently posts
without correction. The MVP title means much less to me than actions and
attitude do. Unfortunately many people coming here for help will take
the word of any MVP as Gospel. I seek to help prevent those innocents
from blindly trusting bad advice given by someone just because they have
the MVP title and I do the same for bad advice given here by non-MVPs as
well.

To be completely honest, this smacks of "good ol' boy" politics to me.
I've never seen any MVPs seriously correct each other here. Do you guys
have a secret handshake, too? Instead of you "correcting" me why don't
you focus on the problem I adressed here in the first place? I suggest
you MVPs police each other and quit turning a blind eye to an obvious
problem. Until that happens you should expect criticisms from the rest
of us.

Steve
 
Steve

What makes you think that all MVPs agree with each other and have some
secret handshake?..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
 
Mike said:
Steve

What makes you think that all MVPs agree with each other and have some
secret handshake?..
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Mike, you're a smart guy, so what about my criticism of an MVP and the
ensueing discussion with JJ did you miss?

I don't honestly believe you all agree, most of you are way too smart
for that, but I rarely, if ever, see any of you openly disagree here or
tell anohter MVP that they're just plain wrong about something, and
specifically I've *never* seen any of you correct a particular MVP when
he posts _completely_ irrelevant information with regards to questions,
which he seems to do more often than not and is infamous for. So some of
us non-MVP folks do it for you. Hense my "good ol' boy politics" and
"secret handshake" comments. It was a joke intended to drive a point home.

Steve
 
Mike said:
Steve

What makes you think that all MVPs agree with each other and have some
secret handshake?..
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I don't think Steve meant quite that way. Sometimes by being silent,
the bad egg is enabled to keep going on the wrong path.


Okay, let's leave my interaction with a certain very few MVPs out of all
of this for the moment. There have been times where I've felt that a
certain nameless MVP should have been publically criticized for his
posts by his MVP brethren.

The closest I've seen it happening is when Kelly called the MVP in
question on his inability to follow up in threads he cuts & pastes his
his oft errant replies in.

Okay, do all the regulars, MVP & non-MVP, know who I'm talking about?
;-)

Hell, I like & respect you Mike, and the vast majority of MVPs I've
crossed paths with, but I have to agree with Steve that the Blue MVP
Wall of Silence needs to be broken on occasion.

And to Steve, I suspect that there are times where MVPs do try to police
their own, but by less public means than in front of the whole group.

Okay! I'm ready for the Jews and the Palestinians now! ;-)

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Kevin said:
"What are all the requirements and steps that must be taken to have
this Microsoft approved designation attached to your name ?"

The simple answer is you have to lick Uncle Bills's arse or least
degrading thing you could do is to sleep with another MVP. You must
have noticed that Kelly Korner took all the trouble to patch her face
with a lump of plasticine of SP2 to make herself desireable!!!
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http://images.google.com/images?as_...ype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=kellys-korner-xp.com

Which picture would that be?
One MVP (Michael Stevens) is distributing a VIEWKey software so that
people can steal VLKs from public libraries, universities and schools
to pirate uncle Bills's software.
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It's been awhile since I've been in any university or school, but I did
spend some time in libraries from VA to NY, and one in Montana while
hiking in 1997-1999, and they all had strict rules about running any
code on their publicly assessable machines.
So MVP now officially stands for
Most Valuable Pirate!!!
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Really? I thought Mike is supplying the keyfinder to help people that
have lost their key codes.

And who really needs use the keyfinder to steal PKs when you can easily
find and download a key generator over the net?

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Kurt
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