MS Defrag Program No Good Anymore

[John]

Hi Folks,

I saw quite a few peeps saying that the MS Defrag seems to have little
or no effect on the speeding up of machines anymore.

It seems like Microsloth has "sabotaged" its own defrag programme.
Now even though the display screen "looks neater", this may well
be a "White Lie" or even a "Black Lie". Other defrag programmes
show such a Microsloth Drefragged disk as being Heavily Fragmented !

Why should this happen ? Possibly so that you will be encouraged
to "upgrade" to Windoze Vista, when (Lo and Behold) the MS Defrag
is suddenly working again !!! I believe that this "flaw" happened with
a recent Windoze "Update", which co-incided with the Launch of
Vista. Hmmm, very suspicious.

Try such a GPL program as "JK Defrag" (there are others)
but this one is tried and tested, and uses MS own API when
moving files, so as to eliminate the risk of data loss AFAP.

http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/

No need to run this as a screen saver, or even every day as the
software manufacturer recommends, but it will benefit from
being run several ( 5 or 6 ) times, after you first install it.

I noticed a marked increase in speed, and a reduction in
Boot / Shutdown time. Particularly the infamously slow
"Add / Remove Programs" applet appears almost instantly,
in mine own case.

Usual disclaimer and provisos apply,
Caveat Omnes Consentit.

Have luck.

.......... John

 

[Maincat]

It seems like Microsloth has "sabotaged" its own defrag programme.
Now even though the display screen "looks neater", this may well
be a "White Lie" or even a "Black Lie". Other defrag programmes
show such a Microsloth Drefragged disk as being Heavily Fragmented !

Your hard evidence of this is what - nothing? What other programs - you
don't bother to name them. Typical spam post. Utter rubbish.

 

[Gerry]

Main cat

I agree the post was garbage. The Disk Defragmenters provided with
Windows are not so far as I am aware Microsoft programmes. They are cut
down versions of a third party programme. If you want the full version
you have to buy it from the third party. The name of the third party
does not immediately come to mind. What Microsoft provides suits my
needs, save that I do not like the Vista interface. The command mode
version in Vista is better.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[John]

Your hard evidence of this is what - nothing? What other programs - you
don't bother to name them. Typical spam post. Utter rubbish.

My hard evidence is difficult to see in an e-mail since that is stored
on my hardware at my physical location, and posting rules in this
group prevent me attaching binary screen shots. I do give you
anecdotal and personal written evidence. It is up to you whether
you believe or not, and it is your loss if not.

I not only give an example of such a programme but indeed
I have provided a link to the Programme Manufacturer where
you can read the evidence for yourself.

I can assure you that this is neither Spam nor "Typical spam"
since I am neither selling this softyware, and nor is the manufacturer,
and I am unconnected with them ( excvept as a user of the application).
The programme is released under the rules of the GNU Public Licence,
and is and will remain Totally FREE forever.

It is not "Utter rubbish" at all but a very useful utility
which I and many others are grateful that the Author
took the time to write.

........... John

 

[John]

Main cat

I agree the post was garbage. The Disk Defragmenters provided with Windows
are not so far as I am aware Microsoft programmes. They are cut down
versions of a third party programme. If you want the full version you have
to buy it from the third party. The name of the third party does not
immediately come to mind. What Microsoft provides suits my needs, save
that I do not like the Vista interface. The command mode version in Vista
is better.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well Gerry,

Firstly please do not "top post" since this makes it difficult for other
readers to follow the sequence of a particular thread.

You "agree the post was garbage" without even having presumably
either read the literature, or having tried it, and simply agreeing
with the previous posters unsubstantiated remarks.

MS Defragmenter was changed from "Defrag.exe" to the consol
version "dfrg.msc" as I have remarked and was changed on 30th
May 2007 most recently. Now this controls the two sub applets,
one for FAT and the other for NTFS filesystems.

Both "dfrgfat.exe" and "dfrgntfs.exe" is made for Microsoft Corp.
by Executive Software International, Inc. as long ago as 2001
and the previous Win & MSDOS Defrag was also made by them.
Now however that company is known as "Diskeeper Corporation"
and thier commercial offering is somewhat more complex, and
indeed does more than just defragment disks. I would call it
bloatware, and of course it cost between 30 and 100 bucks.

The command mode of "JKdefrag" is a million times better
than the "cut down version" of the Microsloth bought in
stuff that ole Gates wants you to use.
eg.

For example: JkDefrag.exe -a 7 -d 2 -q c: d:

-a N Select an action to perform. The number N is a value from 1 to 11,
default is 3:
1 = Analyze only, do not fixup and do not optimize.
2 = Analyze and fixup, do not optimize.
3 = Analyze, fixup, and fast optimization (default).
5 = Analyze and force together.
6 = Analyze and move to end of disk.
7 = Analyze and sort files by name (folder + filename).
8 = Analyze and sort files by size (smallest first).
9 = Analyze and sort files by last access (newest first).
10 = Analyze and sort files by last change (oldest first).
11 = Analyze and sort files by creation time (oldest first).

-e "mask" Exclude files and/or directories that match the mask. The items
will not be defragged and will not be moved. Use wildcards '*' and '?' in
the mask to match a set of files or directories. If the mask contains a
space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
JkDefrag -e *.avi -e *.zip -e *.log
JkDefrag -e D:\MySQL\Data\*

-u "mask" Files that match a mask will be moved to the SpaceHogs area. The
program has a build-in list for all files bigger than 50 megabytes, files
not accessed in the last month, archives, files in the recycler bin, service
pack files, and some others. Disable this list by specifying the special
mask "DisableDefaults". Use wildcards '*' and '?' in the mask to match a set
of files or directories. If the mask contains a space then it must be
enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
JkDefrag -u *.avi -u *.zip -u *.log
JkDefrag -u D:\MySQL\Data\*

-s N Slow down to N percent (1...100) of normal speed. Default is 100.
-f N Set the size of the free spaces to N percent (0...100) of the size of
the volume. The free spaces are room on disk for temporary files. There are
2 free spaces, between the 3 zones (directories, regular files, space hogs).
Default is 1% (per free space).
-d N Select a debug level, controlling the messages that will be written
to the logfile. The number N is a value from 0 to 6, default is 1:
0 = Fatal errors.
1 = Warning messages [default].
2 = General progress messages.
3 = Detailed progress messages.
4 = Detailed file information.
5 = Detailed gap-filling messages.
6 = Detailed gap-finding messages.
-l "filename" Specify a filename for the logfile. Default is
"JkDefrag.log" and "JkDefragCmd.log". Specify empty string "" (two
double-quotes) to disable the logfile.
-h [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
-help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
--help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
/? [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
-q [windows version only] Quit the program when it has finished.
items The items to be defragmented and optimized, such as a file,
directory, disk, mountpoint, or volume, including removable media such as
floppies, USB disks, memory sticks, and other volumes that behave like a
harddisk. Wildcards '*' and '?' are allowed to select a set of files. If the
item contains a space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. The last
character in a name should never be a backslash. Some examples:
JkDefrag C: D:
JkDefrag f:\*.log D:\MySQL\Data\*

I would suggest that you actually research what others
have written, and actually try software before criticising
the hard work of others unjustly.

............ John

 

[Gerry]

John

If you dress up in the clothes of one of Hate Bill Gates / Microsoft
lunatic fringe you should not be surprised if you are taken to be of
that ilk.

In these Microsoft newsgroups you can bottom post, top post or use any
other recognised method of posting. It's not an issue here save with
some elements of the Hate Bill Gates lunatic fringe.

Given that any changes to Windows XP distributed components etc are very
rare now save for Security Updates and Net Framework I am surprised to
hear you say that changes were made to the MS Defragmenter on 30 May
2007. On my computer, which is regularly updated, defrag.exe is dated
2004 and dfrg.msc is dated 2001. What evidence do you have to support
your allegations that there have been changes?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well Gerry,

Firstly please do not "top post" since this makes it difficult for
other readers to follow the sequence of a particular thread.

You "agree the post was garbage" without even having presumably
either read the literature, or having tried it, and simply agreeing
with the previous posters unsubstantiated remarks.

MS Defragmenter was changed from "Defrag.exe" to the consol
version "dfrg.msc" as I have remarked and was changed on 30th
May 2007 most recently. Now this controls the two sub applets,
one for FAT and the other for NTFS filesystems.

Both "dfrgfat.exe" and "dfrgntfs.exe" is made for Microsoft Corp.
by Executive Software International, Inc. as long ago as 2001
and the previous Win & MSDOS Defrag was also made by them.
Now however that company is known as "Diskeeper Corporation"
and thier commercial offering is somewhat more complex, and
indeed does more than just defragment disks. I would call it
bloatware, and of course it cost between 30 and 100 bucks.

The command mode of "JKdefrag" is a million times better
than the "cut down version" of the Microsloth bought in
stuff that ole Gates wants you to use.
eg.

For example: JkDefrag.exe -a 7 -d 2 -q c: d:

-a N Select an action to perform. The number N is a value from 1 to
11, default is 3:
1 = Analyze only, do not fixup and do not optimize.
2 = Analyze and fixup, do not optimize.
3 = Analyze, fixup, and fast optimization (default).
5 = Analyze and force together.
6 = Analyze and move to end of disk.
7 = Analyze and sort files by name (folder + filename).
8 = Analyze and sort files by size (smallest first).
9 = Analyze and sort files by last access (newest first).
10 = Analyze and sort files by last change (oldest first).
11 = Analyze and sort files by creation time (oldest first).

-e "mask" Exclude files and/or directories that match the mask. The
items will not be defragged and will not be moved. Use wildcards '*'
and '?' in the mask to match a set of files or directories. If the
mask contains a space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. Some
examples: JkDefrag -e *.avi -e *.zip -e *.log
JkDefrag -e D:\MySQL\Data\*

-u "mask" Files that match a mask will be moved to the SpaceHogs
area. The program has a build-in list for all files bigger than 50
megabytes, files not accessed in the last month, archives, files in
the recycler bin, service pack files, and some others. Disable this
list by specifying the special mask "DisableDefaults". Use wildcards
'*' and '?' in the mask to match a set of files or directories. If
the mask contains a space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes.
Some examples: JkDefrag -u *.avi -u *.zip -u *.log
JkDefrag -u D:\MySQL\Data\*

-s N Slow down to N percent (1...100) of normal speed. Default is
100. -f N Set the size of the free spaces to N percent (0...100) of
the
size of the volume. The free spaces are room on disk for temporary
files. There are 2 free spaces, between the 3 zones (directories,
regular files, space hogs). Default is 1% (per free space).
-d N Select a debug level, controlling the messages that will be
written to the logfile. The number N is a value from 0 to 6, default
is 1: 0 = Fatal errors.
1 = Warning messages [default].
2 = General progress messages.
3 = Detailed progress messages.
4 = Detailed file information.
5 = Detailed gap-filling messages.
6 = Detailed gap-finding messages.
-l "filename" Specify a filename for the logfile. Default is
"JkDefrag.log" and "JkDefragCmd.log". Specify empty string "" (two
double-quotes) to disable the logfile.
-h [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
-help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
--help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
/? [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
-q [windows version only] Quit the program when it has finished.
items The items to be defragmented and optimized, such as a file,
directory, disk, mountpoint, or volume, including removable media
such as floppies, USB disks, memory sticks, and other volumes that
behave like a harddisk. Wildcards '*' and '?' are allowed to select a
set of files. If the item contains a space then it must be enclosed
in double-quotes. The last character in a name should never be a
backslash. Some examples: JkDefrag C: D:
JkDefrag f:\*.log D:\MySQL\Data\*

I would suggest that you actually research what others
have written, and actually try software before criticising
the hard work of others unjustly.

........... John

 

[HeyBub]

John wrote:

I don't understand. You say:

"It seems like Microsloth has "sabotaged" its own defrag programme."

But then you say:

"this one is tried and tested, and uses MS own API when moving files, so as
to eliminate the risk of data loss AFAP"

I have to go have a lie down.

 

[XS11E]

Your hard evidence of this is what - nothing? What other programs
- you don't bother to name them. Typical spam post. Utter
rubbish.

Note the "Microsloth" which labels the OP as too immature to bother
replying.

 

[Maincat]

My hard evidence is difficult to see in an e-mail since that is stored
on my hardware at my physical location, and posting rules in this
group prevent me attaching binary screen shots. I do give you
anecdotal and personal written evidence. It is up to you whether
you believe or not, and it is your loss if not.

My loss - what have I lost? Anecdotal evidence is worthless. I asked for
hard evidence - you haven't got any. Not a jot.

 

[Guest]

excuse me, top posting makes it easier for me to read, and besides it should
make s bit of difference if someone top/bottom posts, you will still read it.

Main cat

I agree the post was garbage. The Disk Defragmenters provided with Windows
are not so far as I am aware Microsoft programmes. They are cut down
versions of a third party programme. If you want the full version you have
to buy it from the third party. The name of the third party does not
immediately come to mind. What Microsoft provides suits my needs, save
that I do not like the Vista interface. The command mode version in Vista
is better.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well Gerry,

Firstly please do not "top post" since this makes it difficult for other
readers to follow the sequence of a particular thread.

You "agree the post was garbage" without even having presumably
either read the literature, or having tried it, and simply agreeing
with the previous posters unsubstantiated remarks.

MS Defragmenter was changed from "Defrag.exe" to the consol
version "dfrg.msc" as I have remarked and was changed on 30th
May 2007 most recently. Now this controls the two sub applets,
one for FAT and the other for NTFS filesystems.

Both "dfrgfat.exe" and "dfrgntfs.exe" is made for Microsoft Corp.
by Executive Software International, Inc. as long ago as 2001
and the previous Win & MSDOS Defrag was also made by them.
Now however that company is known as "Diskeeper Corporation"
and thier commercial offering is somewhat more complex, and
indeed does more than just defragment disks. I would call it
bloatware, and of course it cost between 30 and 100 bucks.

The command mode of "JKdefrag" is a million times better
than the "cut down version" of the Microsloth bought in
stuff that ole Gates wants you to use.
eg.

For example: JkDefrag.exe -a 7 -d 2 -q c: d:

-a N Select an action to perform. The number N is a value from 1 to 11,
default is 3:
1 = Analyze only, do not fixup and do not optimize.
2 = Analyze and fixup, do not optimize.
3 = Analyze, fixup, and fast optimization (default).
5 = Analyze and force together.
6 = Analyze and move to end of disk.
7 = Analyze and sort files by name (folder + filename).
8 = Analyze and sort files by size (smallest first).
9 = Analyze and sort files by last access (newest first).
10 = Analyze and sort files by last change (oldest first).
11 = Analyze and sort files by creation time (oldest first).

-e "mask" Exclude files and/or directories that match the mask. The items
will not be defragged and will not be moved. Use wildcards '*' and '?' in
the mask to match a set of files or directories. If the mask contains a
space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
JkDefrag -e *.avi -e *.zip -e *.log
JkDefrag -e D:\MySQL\Data\*

-u "mask" Files that match a mask will be moved to the SpaceHogs area. The
program has a build-in list for all files bigger than 50 megabytes, files
not accessed in the last month, archives, files in the recycler bin, service
pack files, and some others. Disable this list by specifying the special
mask "DisableDefaults". Use wildcards '*' and '?' in the mask to match a set
of files or directories. If the mask contains a space then it must be
enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
JkDefrag -u *.avi -u *.zip -u *.log
JkDefrag -u D:\MySQL\Data\*

-s N Slow down to N percent (1...100) of normal speed. Default is 100.
-f N Set the size of the free spaces to N percent (0...100) of the size of
the volume. The free spaces are room on disk for temporary files. There are
2 free spaces, between the 3 zones (directories, regular files, space hogs).
Default is 1% (per free space).
-d N Select a debug level, controlling the messages that will be written
to the logfile. The number N is a value from 0 to 6, default is 1:
0 = Fatal errors.
1 = Warning messages [default].
2 = General progress messages.
3 = Detailed progress messages.
4 = Detailed file information.
5 = Detailed gap-filling messages.
6 = Detailed gap-finding messages.
-l "filename" Specify a filename for the logfile. Default is
"JkDefrag.log" and "JkDefragCmd.log". Specify empty string "" (two
double-quotes) to disable the logfile.
-h [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
-help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
--help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
/? [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
-q [windows version only] Quit the program when it has finished.
items The items to be defragmented and optimized, such as a file,
directory, disk, mountpoint, or volume, including removable media such as
floppies, USB disks, memory sticks, and other volumes that behave like a
harddisk. Wildcards '*' and '?' are allowed to select a set of files. If the
item contains a space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. The last
character in a name should never be a backslash. Some examples:
JkDefrag C: D:
JkDefrag f:\*.log D:\MySQL\Data\*

I would suggest that you actually research what others
have written, and actually try software before criticising
the hard work of others unjustly.

............ John

 

[John]

excuse me, top posting makes it easier for me to read, and besides it
should
make s bit of difference if someone top/bottom posts, you will still read
it.

Main cat

I agree the post was garbage. The Disk Defragmenters provided with
Windows
are not so far as I am aware Microsoft programmes. They are cut down
versions of a third party programme. If you want the full version you
have
to buy it from the third party. The name of the third party does not
immediately come to mind. What Microsoft provides suits my needs, save
that I do not like the Vista interface. The command mode version in
Vista
is better.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Maincat wrote:
It seems like Microsloth has "sabotaged" its own defrag programme.
Now even though the display screen "looks neater", this may well
be a "White Lie" or even a "Black Lie". Other defrag programmes
show such a Microsloth Drefragged disk as being Heavily Fragmented !

Your hard evidence of this is what - nothing? What other programs -
you don't bother to name them. Typical spam post. Utter rubbish.

Well Gerry,

Firstly please do not "top post" since this makes it difficult for other
readers to follow the sequence of a particular thread.

You "agree the post was garbage" without even having presumably
either read the literature, or having tried it, and simply agreeing
with the previous posters unsubstantiated remarks.

MS Defragmenter was changed from "Defrag.exe" to the consol
version "dfrg.msc" as I have remarked and was changed on 30th
May 2007 most recently. Now this controls the two sub applets,
one for FAT and the other for NTFS filesystems.

Both "dfrgfat.exe" and "dfrgntfs.exe" is made for Microsoft Corp.
by Executive Software International, Inc. as long ago as 2001
and the previous Win & MSDOS Defrag was also made by them.
Now however that company is known as "Diskeeper Corporation"
and thier commercial offering is somewhat more complex, and
indeed does more than just defragment disks. I would call it
bloatware, and of course it cost between 30 and 100 bucks.

The command mode of "JKdefrag" is a million times better
than the "cut down version" of the Microsloth bought in
stuff that ole Gates wants you to use.
eg.

For example: JkDefrag.exe -a 7 -d 2 -q c: d:

-a N Select an action to perform. The number N is a value from 1 to 11,
default is 3:
1 = Analyze only, do not fixup and do not optimize.
2 = Analyze and fixup, do not optimize.
3 = Analyze, fixup, and fast optimization (default).
5 = Analyze and force together.
6 = Analyze and move to end of disk.
7 = Analyze and sort files by name (folder + filename).
8 = Analyze and sort files by size (smallest first).
9 = Analyze and sort files by last access (newest first).
10 = Analyze and sort files by last change (oldest first).
11 = Analyze and sort files by creation time (oldest first).

-e "mask" Exclude files and/or directories that match the mask. The
items
will not be defragged and will not be moved. Use wildcards '*' and '?' in
the mask to match a set of files or directories. If the mask contains a
space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
JkDefrag -e *.avi -e *.zip -e *.log
JkDefrag -e D:\MySQL\Data\*

-u "mask" Files that match a mask will be moved to the SpaceHogs area.
The
program has a build-in list for all files bigger than 50 megabytes, files
not accessed in the last month, archives, files in the recycler bin,
service
pack files, and some others. Disable this list by specifying the special
mask "DisableDefaults". Use wildcards '*' and '?' in the mask to match a
set
of files or directories. If the mask contains a space then it must be
enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
JkDefrag -u *.avi -u *.zip -u *.log
JkDefrag -u D:\MySQL\Data\*

-s N Slow down to N percent (1...100) of normal speed. Default is 100.
-f N Set the size of the free spaces to N percent (0...100) of the size
of
the volume. The free spaces are room on disk for temporary files. There
are
2 free spaces, between the 3 zones (directories, regular files, space
hogs).
Default is 1% (per free space).
-d N Select a debug level, controlling the messages that will be
written
to the logfile. The number N is a value from 0 to 6, default is 1:
0 = Fatal errors.
1 = Warning messages [default].
2 = General progress messages.
3 = Detailed progress messages.
4 = Detailed file information.
5 = Detailed gap-filling messages.
6 = Detailed gap-finding messages.
-l "filename" Specify a filename for the logfile. Default is
"JkDefrag.log" and "JkDefragCmd.log". Specify empty string "" (two
double-quotes) to disable the logfile.
-h [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
-help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
--help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
/? [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
-q [windows version only] Quit the program when it has finished.
items The items to be defragmented and optimized, such as a file,
directory, disk, mountpoint, or volume, including removable media such as
floppies, USB disks, memory sticks, and other volumes that behave like a
harddisk. Wildcards '*' and '?' are allowed to select a set of files. If
the
item contains a space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. The last
character in a name should never be a backslash. Some examples:
JkDefrag C: D:
JkDefrag f:\*.log D:\MySQL\Data\*

I would suggest that you actually research what others
have written, and actually try software before criticising
the hard work of others unjustly.

............ John

Indeed it DOES make a difference whether you top post.
There is "netiquette" and you as well as evry one else should
pay attention to that. These rules are there for a reason,
and although it may well make no difference to you
there are thousands of "Lurkers" who will benefit from
reading these discourses. They will find it difficult to
follow the thread if it is all dis-jointed and posted in
seperate messages and top / bottom post etc.

Just as when you drive down the road in USA you will
drive on the right hand side of the road. In this Public
forum you ( and I ) and everyone else should obey the
basic rules, or the Public will be unable to reach a proper
conclusion, from reading the debate in here.

I am not a Policeman in here, and I am not going to
be entering into a pointless flame war with you. You
must understand that I have given the information
not just for your benefit, but for those who might be
having a similar problem. All you have done is
to seemingly, endlessly carp on about petty points
and make gratuitous criticisms which are both
unfounded and unhelpful.

.......... John

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

[snip of some 170+ unnecessary lines quoted]

Indeed it DOES make a difference whether you top post.

And indeed it DOES make a difference whether or not you edit the post
you are quoting... doofus.

 

[John]

[snip of some 170+ unnecessary lines quoted]

Indeed it DOES make a difference whether you top post.

And indeed it DOES make a difference whether or not you edit the post
you are quoting... doofus.

You considered those lines unnecessary, but I did not.
I left them in, and you edited them out.

But your point is..... what ?

I made my remark (as an aside) for readability
purposes and then went on to discuss the
original subject. Your post didn't even have
ANYTHING to say on the Original Subject.

I will not respond to further posts in
this thread, unless they discuss
the Original Topic, in a constructive
and informative fashion within
the Forum Guidelines.....

............. John

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

You considered those lines unnecessary, but I did not.
I left them in, and you edited them out.

But your point is..... what ?

That you're an idiot.

 

[Gerry]

Given that any changes to Windows XP distributed components etc are very
rare now save for Security Updates and Net Framework I am surprised to
hear you say that changes were made to the MS Defragmenter on 30 May
2007. On my computer, which is regularly updated, defrag.exe is dated
2004 and dfrg.msc is dated 2001. What evidence do you have to support
your allegations that there have been changes?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~