Mozilla Firefox

[C A Upsdell]

The problem was addressed in early December by Sun. If you have an older
version of Sun Java you should update:

http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-26-57591-1

No, it was publicly revealed in early December. But it was revealed to
interested organizations, as I said earlier, in October.

 

[Sprockets]

""Dear IE, I'm leaving you for good

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By Robert Vamosi
Senior editor, CNET Reviews
November 12, 2004


Dear Internet Explorer:

It's over. Our relationship just hasn't been working for a while, and
now,
this is it. I'm leaving you for another browser.

I know this isn't a good time--you're down with yet another virus. I do
hope
you feel better soon--really, I do--but I, too, have to move on with my
life.
Fact is, in the entire time I've known you, you seem to always have a
virus
or an occasional worm. You should really see a doctor.

That said, I just can't continue with this relationship any longer. I
know
you say you'll fix things, that next time it'll go better--but that's
what
you said the last time--and the time before that. Each time I believed
you.

Well, not any longer.

You cheater!
The truth is there's nothing more you can say to make things better. I
know
about your secret marriage to Windows. You say you two are not seeing
each
other anymore, but I just don't believe it. You say you can live without
Windows, and I've heard that Windows can live without you, but I know
that's
simply not true.

You say you can live without Windows, and I've heard that Windows can
live
without you, but I know that's simply not true.
What about HTML e-mail in Outlook? Every time there's a new letter in the
Inbox, you rush over to help Windows render it. And what about HTML
within
Word? There you go again. And don't get me started with those late nights
you've spent rendering thumbnail images in Windows Explorer. You're all
over
Windows and, what, you just expect me to turn a blind eye?

You're no longer fit
For another thing, you've gone and gotten all lazy and out of shape on
me.
When was the last time you picked up a new feature? Two years ago? Three?
While you rest on your laurels, while you spend your days slapping
patches on
the various flaws that seem to pour out as though your source code were a
colander, the Internet has changed. A lot.

Last Christmas, I gave you a free RSS reader, Pluck, and you seemed to
like
it, with new feeds popping up from time to time keeping you fun and
relevant.
It gave me reason to think maybe you and I could work things out. But,
in the
end, it just wasn't a true fit; it wasn't really a part of you.

When I mentioned wanting to view more than one Web page at a time, you
just
laughed, said it couldn't be done. Well, I knew that wasn't true. Opera,
Netscape, and now Firefox, they can all do it. You simply don't want to
discuss change.

And when you do, it's only because of someone else. A certain someone
else:
Windows. Don't deny it. You didn't think twice when Windows XP SP2
offered
you its shiny new pop-up blocker. Or gave you new firewall protection. I
know
Windows has promised to block buffer overflows, too--but I'll believe it
when
I see it.

Yet what have you done for me lately? I don't want to keep upgrading my
operating system just to keep you around. Talk about baggage.

This is it
I know, I've tried breaking up before, and I've always come back, but
that's
because I couldn't find the right browser to move on with. I want an
independent browser, one that stands on its own without a codependent
operating system. What I want is a browser that's strong and secure, one
that
handles the latest content and won't crash. I want transparency. I want
code
that actually means something.

I have found just that.

You barely even talk to Macs anymore, and you always seem to walk out of
the
room whenever Linux stops by. Why?
With Mozilla Firefox, at least I know where I stand. The code is open
source, built from the ground up, clean--not recycled. No more hidden
agendas. At least when there's a flaw in Firefox, this browser alerts me
on
its toolbar. It doesn't try to hide its mistakes, waiting until the
second
Tuesday of the month to offer me a patch for some flaw that's been out
there
for six months already.

I can take my Firefox to my Mac and Linux friends, and everyone gets
along
just fine. You barely even talk to Macs anymore, and you always seem to
walk
out of the room whenever Linux stops by. Why? What are you afraid of?
Honestly, a grown browser like you afraid of a little operating system? I
think this snobby behavior speaks volumes about what's wrong with this
relationship.

So this is it: Good-bye. I know you'll do fine without me; you always
have.
I'm sure there'll be someone who'll find you to be cute and interesting.
It
just won't be me.""

lol, ha ha ha...this is a keeper, hope Bill Gates gets a copy !!!!

ROFL

 

[Guest]

I never really liked Firefox or even the idea of it till version 1.0 came
out. I tried it and quickly realised it is the best browser around. While it
isn't as feature rich as Mozilla, it's much faster. With the "document.all"
support and support for real standards, it does IE better that IE and Mozilla
bettter than Mozilla. Like I said, I don't like Firefox, I just use it most
of the time because it is better, regardless of mine or anyone else's opinion.

Just one of thing I absolutely must ask: There are people everywhere
claiming that IE is only getting as hacked as much as it is because it is the
most popular browser, and if say, Firefox was as popular it would get hacked
just as much. Interesting. IE is the only browser I am aware of that really
supports ActiveX and is also the only browser that truely allows dynamic
application installation and execution. So my question is this: How on earth
would a browser other than IE get "hacked just as much" if it was "just as
popular"? Please take my question seriously and give me a serious answer,
exactly how would Mozilla, Firefox, Opera, whatever, be hacked? What features
would be comprimised and what would be the consequences? Long before IE was
getting hacked the way it is (tens of millions of known occurances), it was
obvious to some that ActiveX support on the web was asking for this sort of
trouble. I can't see any logical explanation as to how other browsers could
be hacked as much, please enlighten me.

 

[Jan Il]

Hi peeto

I never really liked Firefox or even the idea of it till version 1.0 came
out. I tried it and quickly realised it is the best browser around. While
it
isn't as feature rich as Mozilla, it's much faster. With the
"document.all"
support and support for real standards, it does IE better that IE and
Mozilla
bettter than Mozilla. Like I said, I don't like Firefox, I just use it
most
of the time because it is better, regardless of mine or anyone else's
opinion.

Just one of thing I absolutely must ask: There are people everywhere
claiming that IE is only getting as hacked as much as it is because it is
the
most popular browser, and if say, Firefox was as popular it would get
hacked
just as much. Interesting. IE is the only browser I am aware of that
really
supports ActiveX and is also the only browser that truely allows dynamic
application installation and execution. So my question is this: How on
earth
would a browser other than IE get "hacked just as much" if it was "just as
popular"? Please take my question seriously and give me a serious answer,
exactly how would Mozilla, Firefox, Opera, whatever, be hacked? What
features
would be comprimised and what would be the consequences? Long before IE
was
getting hacked the way it is (tens of millions of known occurances), it
was
obvious to some that ActiveX support on the web was asking for this sort
of
trouble. I can't see any logical explanation as to how other browsers
could
be hacked as much, please enlighten me.

Here is some factual data that might help answer your questions:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Known Vulnerabilities in Mozilla -
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html

Known Vulnerabilities in Mozilla - FireFox - Thunderbird
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,119187,00.asp
http://pcworld.about.com/news/Jan062005id119187.htm

For an unbiased view of vulnerabilities and how they've been handled by
the vendors, have a look here :

IE http://secunia.com/product/11/
Mozilla Firefox http://secunia.com/product/4227/

also....

Courtesy of PA Bear

<paste>
Netscape 7.x, Konqueror 3.x, Opera 7.x, Safari 1.x, Microsoft Internet
Explorer 5.01/5.5/6, Mozilla 0.x, Mozilla 1.0, Mozilla 1.1, Mozilla 1.2,
Mozilla 1.3, Mozilla 1.4, Mozilla 1.5, Mozilla 1.6, Mozilla 1.7.x,
Mozilla *Firefox* 0.x,
Mozilla *Firefox* 1.x

The problem is that a website can inject content into another site's
window if the target name of the window is known. This can e.g. be
exploited by a malicious website to spoof the content of a pop-up window
opened on a trusted website.

Secunia has constructed a test, which can be used to check if your
browser is affected by this issue:
http://secunia.com/multiple_browsers_window_injection_vulnerability_test/

Notes:
- The vulnerability has been confirmed in Mozilla 1.7.3 and Mozilla
*Firefox* 1.0. Other versions may also be affected.
- The vulnerability has been confirmed on a fully patched system with
Internet Explorer 6.0 and Microsoft Windows XP SP1/SP2.
- The vulnerability has been confirmed in Safari version 1.2.4. Other
versions may also be affected.
- The vulnerability has been confirmed in Opera version 7.54. Other
versions may also be affected.
- The vulnerability has been confirmed in Konqueror version 3.2.2-6.
Other versions may also be affected.
- The vulnerability has been confirmed in Netscape 7.2. Other versions
may also be affected.

Solution: Do not browse untrusted sites while browsing trusted sites.

Netscape: http://secunia.com/advisories/13402/
Opera: http://secunia.com/advisories/13253/
Mozilla/Firefox: http://secunia.com/advisories/13129/
IE: http://secunia.com/advisories/13251/
Konqueror: http://secunia.com/advisories/13254/
Safari: http://secunia.com/advisories/13252/
/paste>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please keep in mind that these are not *my* facts, these are from the
experts. You can also look up the facts for yourself by doing a Google on
the various browsers and their vulnerabilities.

The group of people who are hacking and creating the garbage out there are
now going after the other browsers, and as you can see, they know how to
take advantage of their weaknesses as well. They are making *very* big
money, and for them the programming is child's play. For any user to think
that any one browser is totally invulnerable is a huge mistake. You should
never let your guard down.

The fact is, *any* browser or source that connects to the internet is
vulnerable. Period. The other browser companies are now finding that out.

Hope this helps

Jan
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[Brandon Poe]

Hello Peeto,

Security on the Internet is a very important topic. To see what sort of
known vulnerabilities exist in different software products, including web
browsers, I would encourage you to visit http://secunia.com. Quick links to
some of the popular browsers are listed right on the top-right of the page.

--
Brandon Poe [MSFT]
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/

Is your PC secure? For more information on how to protect your PC, please
visit:
www.microsoft.com/security

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.