moving os to new hard drive

[Guest]

My computer came with windows millenium installed. I upgraded to windows xp
home addition. Now my hard drive is crapping out, so I have to get a new one.
How do I get xp to the new hard drive without the xp cd? I just have the
upgrade cd.

 

[Lee Chapelle]

My computer came with windows millenium installed. I upgraded to windows
xp
home addition. Now my hard drive is crapping out, so I have to get a new
one.
How do I get xp to the new hard drive without the xp cd? I just have the
upgrade cd.

Clonemaxx

 

[t.cruise]

Didn't your system come with a Windows ME CD? If it did, after you've installed the new
drive, set your system setup (BIOS, usually accessed by pressing F1, or CTRL, or DEL, or
ESC, or your first screen should tell you which key to press to enter system setup) to
make your CD drive the first drive in the boot sequence, save settings and exit. Boot
with the Windows XP Upgrade CD, and when you are informed that a prior version of Windows
cannot be found, swap CDs for the ME CD and give the path to that drive. After it has
been accepted as proof, then swap back to the Windows XP Upgrade CD and continue the
install. If you don't have a Windows ME CD, it will also work with an old Windows 98 CD
if you have one. If you don't have a Windows ME or Windows 98 CD, you will have to
purchase a full retail version of Windows XP, which can be expensive. If you are a
student, you can get a big discount.\

Through your institution, get substantial savings on MS Software
http://www.microsoft.com/Education/studentsavings.aspx

 

[Bob Knowlden]

Hard drive manufacturers usually provide a utility for setting up and
copying a drive. Even if you buy a bare drive, the utility may be available
for download. (For example: Maxblast4 at www.maxtor.com. All that is
required to use it is that at least one of the hard drives installed on your
system must be made by Maxtor. Western Digital gives Data Lifeguard tools
11, Seagate has Discwizard.)

There are also commercial drive cloning packages. Drive Image used to be
commonly recommended, but it has been bought by Symantec and incorporated
into Norton Ghost 9. I've also used Partition Magic to copy partitions,
although it isn't really drive cloning software.

Incidentally, you can do anything with a retail upgrade version of XP that
you can with the full version, as far as I know. The only difference is that
at some point the upgrade version will ask you to produce "qualifying media"
to show that you own an upgradeable version of Windows. (My qualifying media
is a Win98 upgrade CD. I usually use a CD-R backup copy of it to avoid
handling the original CD. No product key is needed for the Win98 CD,
although I have one.)

Address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.

 

[Guest]

I got recovery cds for windows millenium. Will they work for verification
when I load xp upgrade?

 

[Bob Knowlden]

I don't know for certain.

My guess is no. I believe that the XP installer will not recognize recovery
CDs from manufacturers as valid media for upgradeable OSes.

If you wished to re-install from scratch, you'd either have to restore ME
and install XP as an upgrade over that, or come up with some sort of
acceptable "qualifying media". (I believe that a Win95 CD would qualify,
although XP can't be installed as an upgrade over 95.)

I got recovery cds for windows millenium. Will they work for verification
when I load xp upgrade?

(snip)

 

[t.cruise]

NO, recovery CDs will not work as proof of eligibility for the Windows XP Upgrade CD. I
did not mention cloning your old hard drive because I was under the impression that it was
dead. You've learned a valuable lesson: Never buy a system that does not come with a
Windows CD. Recovery CDs, or having recovery files on a hidden partition on your hard
drive are unacceptable. I wouldn't want my system restored to its original shipping
state, and have to spend time reinstalling and reconfiguring programs added since I
purchased the system, and losing any data files which I haven't backed up.

Since your system came with Windows ME, that would mean that it's about five years old,
ancient in tech years. If it turns out that you have to buy a new hard drive, and then
spend another couple of hundred dollars to buy a full retail version of Windows XP, you
might rethink your situation. It's like having an old car, and pumping money than it's
worth into it to keep it going. The hard drive is usually the first component to fail.
After five years, your power supply might fail, or your motherboard might fail. It's just
a matter of time. Dell has weekly online specials. Some weeks are better than others.
The week that I purchased my latest $599 system at the Dell web site, there was a $100
rebate, making it $499, free second CDR/CD-RW drive, free double memory, free upgrade to a
flat panel monitor, free upgrade to a bigger/faster hard drive, free shipping, and free
upgrade for the warranty period. The Intel Pentium CPU is probably four to five times
faster than the CPU on your system. So, if it's going to cost you $300 or more to fix
your problem, with more component failures on the way, you might opt to wait until Dell
has its weekly specials loaded with freebies like I did. I don't know what tax bracket
you are in, but you might consider doing a web search for a similar small drive to the
failing one, probably for about $50 or less, install the Windows ME from the Recovery CDs,
and donate the system to a non-profit organization for a tax write off. BTW, if you don't
have the cash to purchase a new Dell system, and your credit is good, you can pick a week
where Dell offers to finance the system with no interest for a year, and pay it off before
the year has passed. The Dell web site specials change every Wednesday. Just something
to think about...

 

[t.cruise]

I had a client who had recovery CDs. BUT, they would not install to a drive other than
the same make and model that originally came with the system. I had another client who
had recovery CDs which wouldn't install until he had physically removed every piece of
hardware that he had installed since purchasing the system.

 

[Guest]

The hard drive is not dead, but it is getting worse each day. How do I clone
hard drive before it totally dies?

NO, recovery CDs will not work as proof of eligibility for the Windows XP Upgrade CD. I
did not mention cloning your old hard drive because I was under the impression that it was
dead. You've learned a valuable lesson: Never buy a system that does not come with a
Windows CD. Recovery CDs, or having recovery files on a hidden partition on your hard
drive are unacceptable. I wouldn't want my system restored to its original shipping
state, and have to spend time reinstalling and reconfiguring programs added since I
purchased the system, and losing any data files which I haven't backed up.

Since your system came with Windows ME, that would mean that it's about five years old,
ancient in tech years. If it turns out that you have to buy a new hard drive, and then
spend another couple of hundred dollars to buy a full retail version of Windows XP, you
might rethink your situation. It's like having an old car, and pumping money than it's
worth into it to keep it going. The hard drive is usually the first component to fail.
After five years, your power supply might fail, or your motherboard might fail. It's just
a matter of time. Dell has weekly online specials. Some weeks are better than others.
The week that I purchased my latest $599 system at the Dell web site, there was a $100
rebate, making it $499, free second CDR/CD-RW drive, free double memory, free upgrade to a
flat panel monitor, free upgrade to a bigger/faster hard drive, free shipping, and free
upgrade for the warranty period. The Intel Pentium CPU is probably four to five times
faster than the CPU on your system. So, if it's going to cost you $300 or more to fix
your problem, with more component failures on the way, you might opt to wait until Dell
has its weekly specials loaded with freebies like I did. I don't know what tax bracket
you are in, but you might consider doing a web search for a similar small drive to the
failing one, probably for about $50 or less, install the Windows ME from the Recovery CDs,
and donate the system to a non-profit organization for a tax write off. BTW, if you don't
have the cash to purchase a new Dell system, and your credit is good, you can pick a week
where Dell offers to finance the system with no interest for a year, and pay it off before
the year has passed. The Dell web site specials change every Wednesday. Just something
to think about...
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I got recovery cds for windows millenium. Will they work for verification
when I load xp upgrade?

 

[t.cruise]

You can either buy a drive that comes with a utility for copying the drive you're
replacing, or purchase a utility like Norton Ghost:

http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/

which will image the original drive onto the new drive.
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The hard drive is not dead, but it is getting worse each day. How do I clone
hard drive before it totally dies?

NO, recovery CDs will not work as proof of eligibility for the Windows XP Upgrade CD. I
did not mention cloning your old hard drive because I was under the impression that it was
dead. You've learned a valuable lesson: Never buy a system that does not come with a
Windows CD. Recovery CDs, or having recovery files on a hidden partition on your hard
drive are unacceptable. I wouldn't want my system restored to its original shipping
state, and have to spend time reinstalling and reconfiguring programs added since I
purchased the system, and losing any data files which I haven't backed up.

Since your system came with Windows ME, that would mean that it's about five years old,
ancient in tech years. If it turns out that you have to buy a new hard drive, and then
spend another couple of hundred dollars to buy a full retail version of Windows XP, you
might rethink your situation. It's like having an old car, and pumping money than it's
worth into it to keep it going. The hard drive is usually the first component to fail.
After five years, your power supply might fail, or your motherboard might fail. It's just
a matter of time. Dell has weekly online specials. Some weeks are better than others.
The week that I purchased my latest $599 system at the Dell web site, there was a $100
rebate, making it $499, free second CDR/CD-RW drive, free double memory, free upgrade to a
flat panel monitor, free upgrade to a bigger/faster hard drive, free shipping, and free
upgrade for the warranty period. The Intel Pentium CPU is probably four to five times
faster than the CPU on your system. So, if it's going to cost you $300 or more to fix
your problem, with more component failures on the way, you might opt to wait until Dell
has its weekly specials loaded with freebies like I did. I don't know what tax bracket
you are in, but you might consider doing a web search for a similar small drive to the
failing one, probably for about $50 or less, install the Windows ME from the Recovery CDs,
and donate the system to a non-profit organization for a tax write off. BTW, if you don't
have the cash to purchase a new Dell system, and your credit is good, you can pick a week
where Dell offers to finance the system with no interest for a year, and pay it off before
the year has passed. The Dell web site specials change every Wednesday. Just something
to think about...
--

T.C.
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I got recovery cds for windows millenium. Will they work for verification
when I load xp upgrade?

:

Hard drive manufacturers usually provide a utility for setting up and
copying a drive. Even if you buy a bare drive, the utility may be available
for download. (For example: Maxblast4 at www.maxtor.com. All that is
required to use it is that at least one of the hard drives installed on your
system must be made by Maxtor. Western Digital gives Data Lifeguard tools
11, Seagate has Discwizard.)

There are also commercial drive cloning packages. Drive Image used to be
commonly recommended, but it has been bought by Symantec and incorporated
into Norton Ghost 9. I've also used Partition Magic to copy partitions,
although it isn't really drive cloning software.

Incidentally, you can do anything with a retail upgrade version of XP that
you can with the full version, as far as I know. The only difference is that
at some point the upgrade version will ask you to produce "qualifying media"
to show that you own an upgradeable version of Windows. (My qualifying media
is a Win98 upgrade CD. I usually use a CD-R backup copy of it to avoid
handling the original CD. No product key is needed for the Win98 CD,
although I have one.)

Address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.

My computer came with windows millenium installed. I upgraded to windows
xp
home addition. Now my hard drive is crapping out, so I have to get a new
one.
How do I get xp to the new hard drive without the xp cd? I just have the
upgrade cd.

 

[Lee Chapelle]

You can either buy a drive that comes with a utility for copying the drive
you're
replacing, or purchase a utility like Norton Ghost:

http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/

which will image the original drive onto the new drive.

You don't need to buy drive cloning software, Google "Clonemaxx"

Lee

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The hard drive is not dead, but it is getting worse each day. How do I
clone
hard drive before it totally dies?

NO, recovery CDs will not work as proof of eligibility for the Windows
XP Upgrade CD. I
did not mention cloning your old hard drive because I was under the
impression that it was
dead. You've learned a valuable lesson: Never buy a system that does
not come with a
Windows CD. Recovery CDs, or having recovery files on a hidden
partition on your hard
drive are unacceptable. I wouldn't want my system restored to its
original shipping
state, and have to spend time reinstalling and reconfiguring programs
added since I
purchased the system, and losing any data files which I haven't backed
up.

Since your system came with Windows ME, that would mean that it's about
five years old,
ancient in tech years. If it turns out that you have to buy a new hard
drive, and then
spend another couple of hundred dollars to buy a full retail version of
Windows XP, you
might rethink your situation. It's like having an old car, and pumping
money than it's
worth into it to keep it going. The hard drive is usually the first
component to fail.
After five years, your power supply might fail, or your motherboard
might fail. It's just
a matter of time. Dell has weekly online specials. Some weeks are
better than others.
The week that I purchased my latest $599 system at the Dell web site,
there was a $100
rebate, making it $499, free second CDR/CD-RW drive, free double
memory, free upgrade to a
flat panel monitor, free upgrade to a bigger/faster hard drive, free
shipping, and free
upgrade for the warranty period. The Intel Pentium CPU is probably
four to five times
faster than the CPU on your system. So, if it's going to cost you $300
or more to fix
your problem, with more component failures on the way, you might opt to
wait until Dell
has its weekly specials loaded with freebies like I did. I don't know
what tax bracket
you are in, but you might consider doing a web search for a similar
small drive to the
failing one, probably for about $50 or less, install the Windows ME
from the Recovery CDs,
and donate the system to a non-profit organization for a tax write off.
BTW, if you don't
have the cash to purchase a new Dell system, and your credit is good,
you can pick a week
where Dell offers to finance the system with no interest for a year,
and pay it off before
the year has passed. The Dell web site specials change every
Wednesday. Just something
to think about...
--

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I got recovery cds for windows millenium. Will they work for
verification
when I load xp upgrade?

:

Hard drive manufacturers usually provide a utility for setting up
and
copying a drive. Even if you buy a bare drive, the utility may be
available
for download. (For example: Maxblast4 at www.maxtor.com. All that
is
required to use it is that at least one of the hard drives
installed on your
system must be made by Maxtor. Western Digital gives Data Lifeguard
tools
11, Seagate has Discwizard.)

There are also commercial drive cloning packages. Drive Image used
to be
commonly recommended, but it has been bought by Symantec and
incorporated
into Norton Ghost 9. I've also used Partition Magic to copy
partitions,
although it isn't really drive cloning software.

Incidentally, you can do anything with a retail upgrade version of
XP that
you can with the full version, as far as I know. The only
difference is that
at some point the upgrade version will ask you to produce
"qualifying media"
to show that you own an upgradeable version of Windows. (My
qualifying media
is a Win98 upgrade CD. I usually use a CD-R backup copy of it to
avoid
handling the original CD. No product key is needed for the Win98
CD,
although I have one.)

Address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.

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My computer came with windows millenium installed. I upgraded to
windows
xp
home addition. Now my hard drive is crapping out, so I have to
get a new
one.
How do I get xp to the new hard drive without the xp cd? I just
have the
upgrade cd.