Motherboard upgrade

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Guest

I installed an Asus A7N8X-E board when I boot the system I get the error
message
system32\drivers\ntfs.sys then when I try to repair xp while setup is
loading files I get the error file setupdd.sys could not load and error code
4 . Any solutions for this?
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

Windows XP problems with damaged or incompatible hardware
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| I installed an Asus A7N8X-E board when I boot the system I get the error
| message
| system32\drivers\ntfs.sys then when I try to repair xp while setup is
| loading files I get the error file setupdd.sys could not load and error code
| 4 . Any solutions for this?
 
T

Travis King

Have you tried a fresh install instead of a repair? I've heard more success
stories with fresh installs than with repair installs.
 
T

Travis King

I can't guarantee however that my suggestion would work and I'd only do it
if you have your data backed up.
 
G

Guest

Is it possible that I need to have the video card drivers installed before
installing the motherboard?
 
L

Lee Chapelle

funnzenk said:
Is it possible that I need to have the video card drivers installed before
installing the motherboard?

No, Windows will always be able to use generic drivers. It's almost always
preferable to do a clean install of Windows after installing a new
motherboard.

Lee
 
K

kurttrail

Lee said:
No, Windows will always be able to use generic drivers. It's almost
always preferable to do a clean install of Windows after installing a
new motherboard.

Watch out Lee, you are coming close to spreading heresy around these
parts! :)

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kurttrail said:
Watch out Lee, you are coming close to spreading heresy around these
parts! :)

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Thats all ok but what is the problem I am having trying to install this
motherboard in this computer I get the error message's
system32\drivers\ntfs.sys and then when I try to repair or re-install windows
xp while the set up is loading I get the error file setupdd.sys could not
load error code 4
 
L

Leythos

Watch out Lee, you are coming close to spreading heresy around these
parts! :)

You're gonna hate this Kurt, but I agree with you. I've always found that
a clean install was better on new hardware, but you're right, some people
in this group will flame people for stating that.

I almost laughed when I thought about us agreeing on something, but I
just separated two ribs this morning and the medications not kicked in, so
it hurts like heck.
 
K

kurttrail

funnzenk said:
Thats all ok but what is the problem I am having trying to install
this motherboard in this computer I get the error message's
system32\drivers\ntfs.sys and then when I try to repair or re-install
windows xp while the set up is loading I get the error file
setupdd.sys could not load error code 4

Sorry, it's an inside joke. Many around here are quite rabid when
people say that a clean install is preferable to a repair install.

I really don't like having to agree with Carey, but you more than likely
have some hardware conflict going on. The only thing I'd could suggest
is taking out everything out of your computer that is not absolutely
necessary for reinstallation, and reseat all components that are
essential it their respective sockets.

Take out sound cards, network cards, unplug any USB device . . . .
Unplug and take out everything including AGP card, RAM and Processor,
and then put the latter trio back in very carefully and make sure they
are seated in their sockets properly. If you are still having problems,
you may just have a bad motherboard. I've had to return a brand new one
in the past.

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kurttrail said:
Sorry, it's an inside joke. Many around here are quite rabid when
people say that a clean install is preferable to a repair install.

I really don't like having to agree with Carey, but you more than likely
have some hardware conflict going on. The only thing I'd could suggest
is taking out everything out of your computer that is not absolutely
necessary for reinstallation, and reseat all components that are
essential it their respective sockets.

Take out sound cards, network cards, unplug any USB device . . . .
Unplug and take out everything including AGP card, RAM and Processor,
and then put the latter trio back in very carefully and make sure they
are seated in their sockets properly. If you are still having problems,
you may just have a bad motherboard. I've had to return a brand new one
in the past.

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This is the second board already do you have any other advice other than this. I was told I could flash the bios and that might fix it however I would rather not do that as that is something that I am not proficient at. And I would need to make a boot disk in dos and not the ms-dos mode that is something I do not know how to do. Any help
 
K

kurttrail

Leythos said:
You're gonna hate this Kurt, but I agree with you. I've always found
that a clean install was better on new hardware, but you're right,
some people in this group will flame people for stating that.

2K/XP are much better than MS's previous OS's at doing a repair
installation. But I'd NEVER do any sort of reinstallation/upgrade
without being prepared to do a completely clean and new install.

Late last year, I switched mobos, going from a flakey AMD processor,
with a VIA chipset, and AGP video, to an Intel processor, with a kind of
opposed chipset, than is mostly Intel, and PCIe video. The only thing
that was similar was going from a onboard Highpoint RAID controller to a
PCI RAID controller that used the same drivers. Before I took out the
old motherboard, I installed the Intel drivers. Changed everything out.
And I was able to boot into Windows on first boot. Was getting an
occasional Blue Screen, flakey RAM, which I later replaced. Did a
repair install, and haven't had a blue screen since.

Now this is probably a very atypical outcome for such a major change,
but 2K/XP do a very good job in comparison to NT4 and 9x, with changing
hardware.

I'm kinda on the middle of the road, not one that thinks one way is
better than another. It is a matter of preference. I just find it
hysterical that when the clean install v. repair install controversies
happen, and I can sit back and enjoy the battle, instead of
participating in it.
I almost laughed when I thought about us agreeing on something, but I
just separated two ribs this morning and the medications not kicked
in, so it hurts like heck.

Laydown and let the drugs kick in, just make sure that you are still
heavily medicated when you get back up. I damaged my ribs playing
Ultimate Frisbee in 1997, while in Hanover NH. I was taking a town
break while hiking the Appalachian Trail. 5 days later, I was back
hiking, but getting up from a laying down position, has harder than
carrying a backpack all day long, and was for weeks later.

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L

Lee Chapelle

kurttrail said:
Watch out Lee, you are coming close to spreading heresy around these
parts! :)

I find that surprising kurt. I would never try to force-feed a new
motherboard to an existing OS, been there, done that.
 
L

Leythos

2K/XP are much better than MS's previous OS's at doing a repair
installation. But I'd NEVER do any sort of reinstallation/upgrade
without being prepared to do a completely clean and new install.

Late last year, I switched mobos, going from a flakey AMD processor,
with a VIA chipset, and AGP video, to an Intel processor, with a kind of
opposed chipset, than is mostly Intel, and PCIe video. The only thing
that was similar was going from a onboard Highpoint RAID controller to a
PCI RAID controller that used the same drivers. Before I took out the
old motherboard, I installed the Intel drivers. Changed everything out.
And I was able to boot into Windows on first boot. Was getting an
occasional Blue Screen, flakey RAM, which I later replaced. Did a
repair install, and haven't had a blue screen since.

Now this is probably a very atypical outcome for such a major change,
but 2K/XP do a very good job in comparison to NT4 and 9x, with changing
hardware.

I think, in all these upgrades postings, you're the first person to
mention doing it like I do - I always start by opening device manager,
removing any old-board specific devices, install any drivers I can for the
new board, and then do a shut-down and replace it all. A lot of times it
works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm kinda on the middle of the road, not one that thinks one way is
better than another. It is a matter of preference. I just find it
hysterical that when the clean install v. repair install controversies
happen, and I can sit back and enjoy the battle, instead of
participating in it.

Yea, I'm there too. If the change drivers doesn't work, then repair
doesn't work, then I just resolve myself to the reinstall. I still like to
do clean install every 12 to 16 months. Since we install so many different
packages on our boxes they tend to suffer from bloat after about that time.
Laydown and let the drugs kick in, just make sure that you are still
heavily medicated when you get back up. I damaged my ribs playing
Ultimate Frisbee in 1997, while in Hanover NH. I was taking a town
break while hiking the Appalachian Trail. 5 days later, I was back
hiking, but getting up from a laying down position, has harder than
carrying a backpack all day long, and was for weeks later.

You're gonna think this is funny, but I was just getting over a serious
cold (why I've had time to be online during the day) that had me down with
a serious cough that had already bruised that side, and today, one large
hack and myself and the guy at the bench next to me could actually hear
them pop as they separated :) They gave me 700mg of something called
perkaset (sp), and I feel real good, fingers are a little numb, and I have
to keep hitting backspace to correct mistakes.....

Hey, if you don't mind, I'm done with all the opinions and such, it was
somewhat enjoyable, but I suspect that you and I have better things to do
(like helping others).
 
K

kurttrail

kurttrail said:

If so, then download:

http://www.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socka/nforce2/a7n8x-deluxe/awdflash.zip
http://www.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socka/nforce2/a7n8x-e/C18E1013.zip

Then printout and follow these instructions:

http://www.asus.com/support/english/techref/bios/awdflash.aspx

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Guest

kurttrail said:
http://www.asus.com/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A7N8X-E Deluxe&Type=All

Is this still the motherboard your are trying to install?


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Here is the whole story I have re-formatted the hard drive bought new copy of windows and the ge force card at first thought the problem was motherboard sent it back and got the one I am working on now but I have the same problems so I took it out put the old board back in and everything works fine on the old board try to switch this out with the new one again and still get same problems so I am thinking that I need to have the video drivers for the new graphics card installed first, everyone on here seems to think that won't solve my problem so I need other suggestions the only other thing I have heard is to flash the bios however I am not comfortable with that. I can't believe I am the only one who has seen this problem before. What other sites are out there that may have some information or tech support? Any suggestions?
 
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Guest

Leythos said:
I think, in all these upgrades postings, you're the first person to
mention doing it like I do - I always start by opening device manager,
removing any old-board specific devices, install any drivers I can for the
new board, and then do a shut-down and replace it all. A lot of times it
works, sometimes it doesn't.


Yea, I'm there too. If the change drivers doesn't work, then repair
doesn't work, then I just resolve myself to the reinstall. I still like to
do clean install every 12 to 16 months. Since we install so many different
packages on our boxes they tend to suffer from bloat after about that time.


You're gonna think this is funny, but I was just getting over a serious
cold (why I've had time to be online during the day) that had me down with
a serious cough that had already bruised that side, and today, one large
hack and myself and the guy at the bench next to me could actually hear
them pop as they separated :) They gave me 700mg of something called
perkaset (sp), and I feel real good, fingers are a little numb, and I have
to keep hitting backspace to correct mistakes.....

Hey, if you don't mind, I'm done with all the opinions and such, it was
somewhat enjoyable, but I suspect that you and I have better things to do
(like helping others).

Ok Leythos you seem to be onto something there can you explain a little more
about the procedure you propose. One thing in mind I can not do a fresh
install or repair when this board is in I get the error file setupdd.sys
could not load error code 4 So I can never get to the screen to chose Repair
or fresh install. Thanks feel free to e-mail me with information at
(e-mail address removed)
Thank you,
Chad
 
K

kurttrail

funnzenk said:
Here is the whole story I have re-formatted the hard drive bought
new copy of windows and the ge force card at first thought the
problem was motherboard sent it back and got the one I am working on
now but I have the same problems so I took it out put the old board
back in and everything works fine on the old board try to switch
this out with the new one again and still get same problems so I am
thinking that I need to have the video drivers for the new graphics
card installed first, everyone on here seems to think that won't
solve my problem so I need other suggestions the only other thing I
have heard is to flash the bios however I am not comfortable with
that. I can't believe I am the only one who has seen this problem
before. What other sites are out there that may have some
information or tech support? Any suggestions?

Yes, follow the link I gave you and answer my question.

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kurttrail

Leythos said:
I think, in all these upgrades postings, you're the first person to
mention doing it like I do - I always start by opening device manager,
removing any old-board specific devices, install any drivers I can
for the new board, and then do a shut-down and replace it all. A lot
of times it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I done repair installs on other machines that have been successflu with
out doing that, but have had much more success removing the old and
installing the new before swapping the hardware.
Yea, I'm there too. If the change drivers doesn't work, then repair
doesn't work, then I just resolve myself to the reinstall. I still
like to do clean install every 12 to 16 months. Since we install so
many different packages on our boxes they tend to suffer from bloat
after about that time.

I hear ya' there.
You're gonna think this is funny, but I was just getting over a
serious cold (why I've had time to be online during the day) that had
me down with a serious cough that had already bruised that side, and
today, one large hack and myself and the guy at the bench next to me
could actually hear them pop as they separated :) They gave me 700mg
of something called perkaset (sp), and I feel real good, fingers are
a little numb, and I have to keep hitting backspace to correct
mistakes.....

Hey, if you don't mind, I'm done with all the opinions and such, it
was somewhat enjoyable, but I suspect that you and I have better
things to do (like helping others).

Percocet is a opiate, and you may feel differently after you come down,
so I won't hold you to it.

Enjoy the Buzz, while it lasts! :)

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