Moore's Law for networks?

H

Herb Martin

Jase said:
Is there any laws related to or similar to Moore's Law
(http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/Moores_Law.html) that are relevant to
networks?

Do you mean like:
Internet growth: Is there a "Moore's Law" for data traffic? ...
Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

Google for [ "moore's law" networks networks networks ]

That one is about six down from the top and there are a bunch of other
likely hits as well.
 
N

nut cracker

what... that pertains to network speeds? that pertains to avilable bandwidth
?

that every 18 months, bandwidth technology doubles?

Not that I have seen. we would have terabit networks if that were true. I
have seen mutlti gigabit optical networks, but nothing that supports those
kinds of speeds to the desktop.

NuTs

Herb Martin said:
Jase said:
Is there any laws related to or similar to Moore's Law
(http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/Moores_Law.html) that are relevant to
networks?

Do you mean like:
Internet growth: Is there a "Moore's Law" for data traffic? ...
Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

Google for [ "moore's law" networks networks networks ]

That one is about six down from the top and there are a bunch of other
likely hits as well.
 
H

Herb Martin

that every 18 months, bandwidth technology doubles?

A "Moore's law" does not automatically imply the SAME ratio,
merely than some ratio or other mathematical model pertains.

--
Herb Martin
nut cracker said:
what... that pertains to network speeds? that pertains to avilable bandwidth
?

that every 18 months, bandwidth technology doubles?

Not that I have seen. we would have terabit networks if that were true. I
have seen mutlti gigabit optical networks, but nothing that supports those
kinds of speeds to the desktop.

NuTs

Herb Martin said:
Jase said:
Is there any laws related to or similar to Moore's Law
(http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/Moores_Law.html) that are relevant to
networks?

Do you mean like:
Internet growth: Is there a "Moore's Law" for data traffic? ...
Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

Google for [ "moore's law" networks networks networks ]

That one is about six down from the top and there are a bunch of other
likely hits as well.
 
N

nut cracker

By referening Moore's Law by name, that is the exact connotation that comes
to mind. And by asking if there is a similar principle that applies to
networking (an incredibly vague term at best), any reasonable person (that
is aware of Moore's Law) could be expected to deduce that you want to know:

Does (networking... whatever that means) double every 18 months (or whatever
period of time).

You really need to present your question so that you reduce the possiblility
of misinterpretation. Unless of course, you are an attorney, in which case
your question was phrased perfectly.

NuTs

Herb Martin said:
that every 18 months, bandwidth technology doubles?

A "Moore's law" does not automatically imply the SAME ratio,
merely than some ratio or other mathematical model pertains.

--
Herb Martin
nut cracker said:
what... that pertains to network speeds? that pertains to avilable bandwidth
?

that every 18 months, bandwidth technology doubles?

Not that I have seen. we would have terabit networks if that were true. I
have seen mutlti gigabit optical networks, but nothing that supports those
kinds of speeds to the desktop.

NuTs

Herb Martin said:
Is there any laws related to or similar to Moore's Law
(http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/Moores_Law.html) that are relevant to
networks?


Do you mean like:
Internet growth: Is there a "Moore's Law" for data traffic? ...

Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

Google for [ "moore's law" networks networks networks ]

That one is about six down from the top and there are a bunch of other
likely hits as well.
 
H

Herb Martin

nut cracker said:
By referening Moore's Law by name, that is the exact connotation that comes
to mind. And by asking if there is a similar principle that applies to
networking (an incredibly vague term at best), any reasonable person (that
is aware of Moore's Law) could be expected to deduce that you want to know:

Does (networking... whatever that means) double every 18 months (or whatever
period of time).

You really need to present your question so that you reduce the possiblility
of misinterpretation. Unless of course, you are an attorney, in which case
your question was phrased perfectly.

It wasn't my question and you really need to take a course in logic -- or
English.
 
K

Kent W. England [MVP]

Jase said:
Is there any laws related to or similar to Moore's Law
(http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/Moores_Law.html) that are relevant to
networks?

There was what might be called the "UUNET lie". For a month or two,
UUNET saw their Internet traffic doubling every four months (I might not
recall the exact doubling interval).

Everyone, including UUNET/Worldcom people, quoted that growth rate for
the next four years until the telecomm bubble burst. Lots of people came
up with imaginative reasons why the traffic would continue to grow
exponentially, but they were all lies and conceits or they were way
ahead of the application curve.
 
H

Herb Martin

Everyone, including UUNET/Worldcom people, quoted that growth rate for
the next four years until the telecomm bubble burst. Lots of people came
up with imaginative reasons why the traffic would continue to grow
exponentially, but they were all lies and conceits or they were way
ahead of the application curve.

There is a difference between the "growth of traffic" (load) and the growth
of
technology capability as indicated by Moore's law.

The question was referencing something similar to Moore's law not to traffic
growth.
 
R

Rob Schneider

Read some of the writings of the guy named Metcalf. He invented
Ethernet technology. He's written on the subject and there is even a
"law" ascribed to his name about networking.

Hope this is useful to you. Let us know.

rms
 
B

Bob Willard

none said:
Metcalfe's Law

The value of a network grows in proportion to the square of the number n² of
users.

http://www.contextmag.com/setFrameRedirect.asp?src=/archives/199903/digitals
trategy.asp

The cynic's corollary to Metcalf's Law: while the signal (information)
of a network is proportional to the square of the number of users, the
noise is proportional to the cube of the number of users, hence the
SNR is inversely proportional to the number of users.

Translation: more users means more data, but requires more effort to
separate fact from fiction.
 

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