Modifying the Registry

G

Guest

I know this is not something to do lightly and I know to backup first etc but
sometimes you need to change a value. My problem is that I just tried to
modify a value but if I then close and reopen Regedit, the old value is still
unchanged. Can anyone advise me what to do to fix this? I have already looked
at Edit/Permissions but that seems OK. I don't want to do a System Restore
because I have no idea how long this situation has existed - maybe for many
months.
 
R

Raymond J. Johnson Jr.

| I know this is not something to do lightly and I know to backup first etc
but
| sometimes you need to change a value. My problem is that I just tried to
| modify a value but if I then close and reopen Regedit, the old value is
still
| unchanged. Can anyone advise me what to do to fix this? I have already
looked
| at Edit/Permissions but that seems OK. I don't want to do a System Restore
| because I have no idea how long this situation has existed - maybe for
many
| months.
| --
| Mike

Do you think it might be helpful to tell what it is you're trying to do, and
what "value" you're trying to change?
 
G

Guest

Hi Raymond,

OK, I use the Computer Associates product EZArmor for my firewall and
antivirus. I recently upgraded this which went OK except that the tray icons
refused to appear. I had a look at the autorun settings in
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run and saw that it was
trying to call up the wrong file - presumably the uninstall had not removed
the old one for some reason.

I modified the value (having backed up the Registry!) and thought I was done
but, as I said, on reopening Regedit, the changes had not been saved.

I have implemented a workaround which is to put links to the two files into
the Startup folder so I now get my tray icons but it worries me that I cannot
seem to modify the Registry if I need to.
 
R

Raymond J. Johnson Jr.

| Hi Raymond,
|
| OK, I use the Computer Associates product EZArmor for my firewall and
| antivirus. I recently upgraded this which went OK except that the tray
icons
| refused to appear. I had a look at the autorun settings in
| HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run and saw that it was
| trying to call up the wrong file - presumably the uninstall had not
removed
| the old one for some reason.
|
| I modified the value (having backed up the Registry!) and thought I was
done
| but, as I said, on reopening Regedit, the changes had not been saved.
|
| I have implemented a workaround which is to put links to the two files
into
| the Startup folder so I now get my tray icons but it worries me that I
cannot
| seem to modify the Registry if I need to.
|
| "Raymond J. Johnson Jr." wrote:
|
| >
| > | > | I know this is not something to do lightly and I know to backup first
etc
| > but
| > | sometimes you need to change a value. My problem is that I just tried
to
| > | modify a value but if I then close and reopen Regedit, the old value
is
| > still
| > | unchanged. Can anyone advise me what to do to fix this? I have already
| > looked
| > | at Edit/Permissions but that seems OK. I don't want to do a System
Restore
| > | because I have no idea how long this situation has existed - maybe for
| > many
| > | months.
| > | --
| > | Mike

Try Will's advice--reboot after editing and before reopening regedit.
 
M

Mike Heath

Tried Will's idea of rebooting in order to 'save' the Registry changes but it didn't work.

This time I also tried to delete a value but it wouldn't let me. At the first the modification appears correctly on screen, but then if I click on another folder within Registry and then back again, the old value is back in place.

Is this a completely new problem or has anyone ever met it before?

--

Yours, Mike



| Hi Raymond,
|
| OK, I use the Computer Associates product EZArmor for my firewall and
| antivirus. I recently upgraded this which went OK except that the tray
icons
| refused to appear. I had a look at the autorun settings in
| HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run and saw that it was
| trying to call up the wrong file - presumably the uninstall had not
removed
| the old one for some reason.
|
| I modified the value (having backed up the Registry!) and thought I was
done
| but, as I said, on reopening Regedit, the changes had not been saved.
|
| I have implemented a workaround which is to put links to the two files
into
| the Startup folder so I now get my tray icons but it worries me that I
cannot
| seem to modify the Registry if I need to.
|
| "Raymond J. Johnson Jr." wrote:
|
| >
| > | > | I know this is not something to do lightly and I know to backup first
etc
| > but
| > | sometimes you need to change a value. My problem is that I just tried
to
| > | modify a value but if I then close and reopen Regedit, the old value
is
| > still
| > | unchanged. Can anyone advise me what to do to fix this? I have already
| > looked
| > | at Edit/Permissions but that seems OK. I don't want to do a System
Restore
| > | because I have no idea how long this situation has existed - maybe for
| > many
| > | months.
| > | --
| > | Mike

Try Will's advice--reboot after editing and before reopening regedit.
 
W

Will Denny

Hi

Right click on the appropriate setting in the Registry and select
Permissions. What have you got enabled for your User Account? It's got to
be an Account with Administrator's rights.

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups.


Tried Will's idea of rebooting in order to 'save' the Registry changes but
it didn't work.

This time I also tried to delete a value but it wouldn't let me. At the
first the modification appears correctly on screen, but then if I click on
another folder within Registry and then back again, the old value is back in
place.

Is this a completely new problem or has anyone ever met it before?

--

Yours, Mike



| Hi Raymond,
|
| OK, I use the Computer Associates product EZArmor for my firewall and
| antivirus. I recently upgraded this which went OK except that the tray
icons
| refused to appear. I had a look at the autorun settings in
| HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run and saw that it was
| trying to call up the wrong file - presumably the uninstall had not
removed
| the old one for some reason.
|
| I modified the value (having backed up the Registry!) and thought I was
done
| but, as I said, on reopening Regedit, the changes had not been saved.
|
| I have implemented a workaround which is to put links to the two files
into
| the Startup folder so I now get my tray icons but it worries me that I
cannot
| seem to modify the Registry if I need to.
|
| "Raymond J. Johnson Jr." wrote:
|
| >
| > | > | I know this is not something to do lightly and I know to backup
first
etc
| > but
| > | sometimes you need to change a value. My problem is that I just
tried
to
| > | modify a value but if I then close and reopen Regedit, the old value
is
| > still
| > | unchanged. Can anyone advise me what to do to fix this? I have
already
| > looked
| > | at Edit/Permissions but that seems OK. I don't want to do a System
Restore
| > | because I have no idea how long this situation has existed - maybe
for
| > many
| > | months.
| > | --
| > | Mike

Try Will's advice--reboot after editing and before reopening regedit.
 
M

Mike Heath

Hi Will,

Thanks for your interest in my problem.

I am the sole user of my PC so I am the Administrator. I am looking at the following key:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run

When I do as you say, there are four groups: Administrators (me), Creator Owner (don't know who this is), System and Users (me again).

Permissions are as follows:

Administrators: checks in 'Allow' box for Full Control, Read and Special Permissions, other boxes unchecked
Creator Owner: check in 'Allow' box for Special Permissions only, other boxes unchecked
System: check in 'Allow' box for Full Control and Read only. Special Permissions and other boxes unchecked
Users: same as Systems

Needless to say, I can't change the permissions like I can't change or delete values. Fortunately, everything else seems to be working OK on the PC apart from this issue with Registry access.

Any more ideas to try?

--

Yours, Mike


Hi

Right click on the appropriate setting in the Registry and select
Permissions. What have you got enabled for your User Account? It's got to
be an Account with Administrator's rights.

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups.


Tried Will's idea of rebooting in order to 'save' the Registry changes but
it didn't work.

This time I also tried to delete a value but it wouldn't let me. At the
first the modification appears correctly on screen, but then if I click on
another folder within Registry and then back again, the old value is back in
place.

Is this a completely new problem or has anyone ever met it before?

--

Yours, Mike



| Hi Raymond,
|
| OK, I use the Computer Associates product EZArmor for my firewall and
| antivirus. I recently upgraded this which went OK except that the tray
icons
| refused to appear. I had a look at the autorun settings in
| HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run and saw that it was
| trying to call up the wrong file - presumably the uninstall had not
removed
| the old one for some reason.
|
| I modified the value (having backed up the Registry!) and thought I was
done
| but, as I said, on reopening Regedit, the changes had not been saved.
|
| I have implemented a workaround which is to put links to the two files
into
| the Startup folder so I now get my tray icons but it worries me that I
cannot
| seem to modify the Registry if I need to.
|
| "Raymond J. Johnson Jr." wrote:
|
| >
| > | > | I know this is not something to do lightly and I know to backup
first
etc
| > but
| > | sometimes you need to change a value. My problem is that I just
tried
to
| > | modify a value but if I then close and reopen Regedit, the old value
is
| > still
| > | unchanged. Can anyone advise me what to do to fix this? I have
already
| > looked
| > | at Edit/Permissions but that seems OK. I don't want to do a System
Restore
| > | because I have no idea how long this situation has existed - maybe
for
| > many
| > | months.
| > | --
| > | Mike

Try Will's advice--reboot after editing and before reopening regedit.
 
W

Will Denny

Hi Mike

If you have Admin. rights, then you should be able to enable:

'Allow'

On your specific Account.

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups.


Hi Will,

Thanks for your interest in my problem.

I am the sole user of my PC so I am the Administrator. I am looking at the
following key:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run

When I do as you say, there are four groups: Administrators (me), Creator
Owner (don't know who this is), System and Users (me again).

Permissions are as follows:

Administrators: checks in 'Allow' box for Full Control, Read and Special
Permissions, other boxes unchecked
Creator Owner: check in 'Allow' box for Special Permissions only, other
boxes unchecked
System: check in 'Allow' box for Full Control and Read only. Special
Permissions and other boxes unchecked
Users: same as Systems

Needless to say, I can't change the permissions like I can't change or
delete values. Fortunately, everything else seems to be working OK on the PC
apart from this issue with Registry access.

Any more ideas to try?

--

Yours, Mike


Hi

Right click on the appropriate setting in the Registry and select
Permissions. What have you got enabled for your User Account? It's got
to
be an Account with Administrator's rights.

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups.


Tried Will's idea of rebooting in order to 'save' the Registry changes but
it didn't work.

This time I also tried to delete a value but it wouldn't let me. At the
first the modification appears correctly on screen, but then if I click on
another folder within Registry and then back again, the old value is back
in
place.

Is this a completely new problem or has anyone ever met it before?

--

Yours, Mike



| Hi Raymond,
|
| OK, I use the Computer Associates product EZArmor for my firewall and
| antivirus. I recently upgraded this which went OK except that the tray
icons
| refused to appear. I had a look at the autorun settings in
| HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run and saw that it
was
| trying to call up the wrong file - presumably the uninstall had not
removed
| the old one for some reason.
|
| I modified the value (having backed up the Registry!) and thought I
was
done
| but, as I said, on reopening Regedit, the changes had not been saved.
|
| I have implemented a workaround which is to put links to the two files
into
| the Startup folder so I now get my tray icons but it worries me that I
cannot
| seem to modify the Registry if I need to.
|
| "Raymond J. Johnson Jr." wrote:
|
| >
| > | > | I know this is not something to do lightly and I know to backup
first
etc
| > but
| > | sometimes you need to change a value. My problem is that I just
tried
to
| > | modify a value but if I then close and reopen Regedit, the old
value
is
| > still
| > | unchanged. Can anyone advise me what to do to fix this? I have
already
| > looked
| > | at Edit/Permissions but that seems OK. I don't want to do a System
Restore
| > | because I have no idea how long this situation has existed - maybe
for
| > many
| > | months.
| > | --
| > | Mike

Try Will's advice--reboot after editing and before reopening regedit.
 

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