Migrating XP to 2000

[!Kalbo]

If you are going to tell me that you can't go from XP to 2000, stop ready.
This is for those talented few who want to do what they say can't be done.
I've heard it all before. I've reverted XP to 2000 before but it was a
sloppy job that could be done better. I'm looking for experts who know how
to do it right

I have a laptop that comes set up with all kinds of corporate software on XP
pro. I have set up a dual boot and copied the XP pro partition to the new
partition.

Now I want to convert (upgrade/migrate??) the new partition so it runs 2000
pro. The goal is of course to get most of the corporate stuff running on
2000 pro.

Any ideas?

Calbo

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

If you are going to tell me that you can't go from XP to 2000, stop ready.
This is for those talented few who want to do what they say can't be done.
I've heard it all before. I've reverted XP to 2000 before but it was a
sloppy job that could be done better. I'm looking for experts who know how
to do it right

I have a laptop that comes set up with all kinds of corporate software on XP
pro. I have set up a dual boot and copied the XP pro partition to the new
partition.

Now I want to convert (upgrade/migrate??) the new partition so it runs 2000
pro. The goal is of course to get most of the corporate stuff running on
2000 pro.

Any ideas?

Calbo

Perhaps the question is not so much HOW to follow an
unsupported migration path but rather WHY to do it the
hard way round. I suggest that a clean installation of
Win2000, followed by a re-installation of your corporate
apps, would be far less time-consuming and would result
in a far superior product.

Performing a supported migration means that you let
somebody else do the hard work so that you can enjoy
the fruits if his labour.

 

[!Kalbo]

I thought the blatantly obvious was obvious enough. I don't have the
original software and it will be a much longer learning curve to get them,
install them and configure them

MVP ?? Does anyone out there have the cahonies to tackle this issue? Are
you men or mice? (no offence ladies)

Calbo (VFP)

 

[Rick]

If you are going to tell me that you can't go from XP to 2000, stop ready.
This is for those talented few who want to do what they say can't be done.
I've heard it all before. I've reverted XP to 2000 before but it was a
sloppy job that could be done better. I'm looking for experts who know how
to do it right

Do what right? Hack in "all kinds of XP corporate software"
into a Win2K registry? If someone here or elsewhere tells you
there's a "right" way to do this, they're lying to you.

I have a laptop that comes set up with all kinds of corporate software on XP
pro. I have set up a dual boot and copied the XP pro partition to the new
partition.

Now I want to convert (upgrade/migrate??) the new partition so it runs 2000
pro. The goal is of course to get most of the corporate stuff running on
2000 pro.

Any ideas?

Just one. If the laptop is your company's and not yours, buy
your own and don't screw theirs up.

Rick

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Please give us ten good reasons why anyone should tackle
this issue for you. It requires a lot of work, its outcome is
uncertain (putting it mildly), it is way outside the design
parameters for Win2000, there is no benefit for anyone
other than for yourself, and it is an exercise in futility since
you will need the original software anyway at some later
stage, when a reload becomes necessary.

Over to you: Convice us that this is a job worth doing!

 

[!Kalbo]

Weenies!! I'm surrounded by weenies!

Another "I have no idea" guy. you should have stopped at the first line of
my post

 

[!Kalbo]

I appreciate the "please" but the rest is just bait to argue your point

Clearly, you are not qualified to answer these questions. "This is for
those talented few who want to do what they say can't be done." This ain't
you. Some people want to test the boundaries and not argue about the
waypoints.

Moving on.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Flattery won't get you anywhere at all. I predict that
you will get no realistic proposal to your request.
See you again one week from now.

 

[Guest]

Indeed, I had questions and a comment or two, but following the thread winged stallion below, all I can offer is this infamous exchange of ideas. I hope it helps

Bubba's Mom: "Are you stupid, boy?
Forest Gump: "Stupid is as stupid does. Ma'am.
Bubba's Mom: "I guess.

 

[!Calbo]

Come on. If you are going to quote something, quote it right.

The quote is:

Are you stupid or somethin'?
Stupid is as stupid does, Sir.

Mom was never in that conversation.

NEXT !!!!!

And what the heck is a "thread winged stallion"

Indeed, I had questions and a comment or two, but following the thread

winged stallion below, all I can offer is this infamous exchange of ideas. I
hope it helps.

 

[Steve N.]

How about an in-place "upgrade"? Pretend XP is 2K and install it over
the top of XP with the replace current OS option.

Steve

 

[!Calbo]

Ahaaaaa.. A spark of intellect. Very nice. I agree 100%

But the question is "what files do I need to delete or replace with 2000
version sto trick the 2000 install into thinking it's a damaged 2000
vwersion instead of a XP install"?

If I try to upgrade (improve) XP to 2000, I'm told that the CD is a newer
OS and that the istall is diabled

We're getting closer.

Calbo

 

[Steve Nielsen]

Hmmm... I'm not sure exactly what Setup is looking for to determine the
version of the installed OS. In the Win9x days it was win.com in the
windows directory but that doesn't exist in NT systems.

I like to try simple things first, I'd try renaming the Windows directory.

The NT boot files in the root directory would be next thing I'd futz
with, ntldr, ntdetect.com. boot.ini, maybe replace them with 2K
versions, or rename them.

Steve

 

[Chris Knapp]

Have you tried searching through the XP system's registry for any possible
relevant keys for the software in question, then merging them into a test
windows 2000 system after copying over the actual program folders? Seems
like Windows XP is too hard to circumvent, why not go around it. List some
of the corporate software packages you are using and others may have some
insight.

And you don't have to be a jerk (e-mail address removed) to those that are just
trying to help you. . .

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Wouldn't it be far simpler just to buy legitimate licenses for the
desired software so it can be properly reinstalled?

Anyway, you the one claiming it can be done, so why don't _you_
tell us how?

There is no "rollback" to Win2K.

To replace WinXP with an earlier OS, you'll have to boot from the
appropriate boot disk, format the hard drive, and install. There is
no supported downgrade path or technique.

Simply boot from the Win2K installation CD. You'll be offered the
opportunity to delete, create, and/or format the system partition as
part of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the
order of boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)


Bruce Chambers
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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Deleting C:\NTLDR, C:\NTDETECT.COM, and the Windows folder should
do the trick, then.

Bruce Chambers
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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH

 

[Matt]

This sounds like it should do the trick.. don't even know if you need to
wipe the windows directory.. especially if you want to keep some
registry info ==)

Once again this is a case of Microsoft just making life difficult for us
all =) There ARE other alternatives.. mac.. linux.. etc =) the gap is
closing!

 

[!Calbo]

Bruce,

The whole point was to convert WinXp to Win2000, not to delete the Windows
directory. I think you are on the right track but you missed the mark.
There are some files in WinXP that tell the installer that it is XP and not
2000. Those are the ones I need to find.

The files you refer to are boot files and apply to the entire system. In a
multiboot system with 98, 2k and XP, you need the XP version of NTLDR and
NTDETECT.COM to boot all 3. Revert back to the 2K versions and only 98 and
2K will boot

Let's make this easy. What files do I delete to fool 2000 installer into
thinking that the XP install is really 2000.

Calbo

 

[Enkidu]

Boot the machine from a Win98 boot disk, run "format c:" and you will
have no further problems.

Or use this tool:
http://micro2000.com/eraserdisk/

Or this one:
http://burks.brighton.ac.uk/burks/pcinfo/hardware/bios_sg/hdisk.htm

Or take the hard drive out of the case and hit it with a sledge hammer
untill bits fall off. Reinstall the hard disk and reboot from the win
2000 CD. After the repair stops running, the machine will reboot and
you will have downgraded to Windows 1999.

Cheers,

Cliff

 

[Rick]

Boot the machine from a Win98 boot disk, run "format c:" and you will
have no further problems.

He'll eventually come to that. Via the long road.

Rick