migrating old XP install to new XP64 on same disc

P

Peter DeVita

Hi,
Does anyone know how to migrate old installs when on the same disc. The
standard method assumes that the old system is still available and running.
In my case, the CPU went into thermal runnaway and hung the system. Since it
was an older CPU replacing it was not economical. So I upgraded to an Asus
P5Q-E which support 64 bits. Unfortunately, the BIOS was out of date and the
drivers on XP SP2 do not work with this hardware so I got error 0x0000007B.
Same was true when I attempted to run from the CD.

I then installed XP64 which worked fine (I also upgraded to BIOS to get rid
of the boot error with their 'Gate' software). I installed XP64 on the same
partition as my old XP but in a new directory. So all my old stuff is still
there.

Is there an easy way to move everything over?

Thanks,
 
J

Jerry

You can't just 'move' the programs over - you have to reinstall them. Once
that is done you could then copy any photos, letters, files you created
over.
 
P

Peter DeVita

Thanks Jerry.
I am aware that one cannot simply copy programs - not like the old days with
DOS!

What I am looking for are any tricks with setups to make it faster. eg: OE
and the email address setups plus all my email folders. For some moves,
registry data must either be changed or tricked by changing what the
regirstry is already pointing to.

I'm sure I'm not the first one who has swaped out a motherboard for whatever
reason and is left with a similar problem.
I'll slowly re-install everything but would still be interested in any short
cuts.

Thanks again.
 
T

Tim Meddick

Peter,
For Windows' settings - you can transfer them with the "Settings and
Transfer Wizard" (F.A.S.T).

For OE - there are loads of settings that can be "exported" as files (i.e.; email
account settings) and the "imported" on the other PC.

You can also copy over your OE email folders over to the new PC (as DBX files) but be
sure to put them into the right "identity's" folder.

With some of your more important programs, you might want to copy their registry keys
over (export - copy - import HKCU / HKLM \Software\CompanyName\...) and some
programs still use .ini files to hold their settings in their program's folder.

You may want to take this sort of trouble if you have a particular program that
you spent some time "getting just right" and it CAN indeed, save you time in the long
run...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
P

Peter DeVita

Thanks Tim.

Do you if there is a way to run the 'settings and transfer' from data on the
same machine?

The problem I have is that my motherboard (CPU actually) died. I've
replaced/upgraded the motherboard in my old machine. I had hoped to simply
start up and run all my old code. Hoever, the mother board BIOS and
drivers/controllers had other ideas. XP - SP2 would not run, not even from
the CD as a fresh start. XP64 did work, which is how I have arrived at my
current state.

I cannot export any other email settings from my old code as I cannot run
it. I had 4 email addresses set up two of which I had exported so those I
have retrieved. The other two are buried within the old OE.

Is there an easy way to find registry keys - ie export and then import?
Reference to some document on this would be good.

Thanks a lot for the info.



--
DeVita Associates


Tim Meddick said:
Peter,
For Windows' settings - you can transfer them with the "Settings and
Transfer Wizard" (F.A.S.T).

For OE - there are loads of settings that can be "exported" as files (i.e.; email
account settings) and the "imported" on the other PC.

You can also copy over your OE email folders over to the new PC (as DBX files) but be
sure to put them into the right "identity's" folder.

With some of your more important programs, you might want to copy their registry keys
over (export - copy - import HKCU / HKLM \Software\CompanyName\...) and some
programs still use .ini files to hold their settings in their program's folder.

You may want to take this sort of trouble if you have a particular program that
you spent some time "getting just right" and it CAN indeed, save you time in the long
run...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
T

Tim Meddick

Peter,
Yes, you just run it and place [export] the data [files] on to some removable
media, such as a USB drive.

Then just re-import the settings, as per described in the instructions you will be
given as you save the settings, on the "other" machine.

The Wizard will be oblivious to the fact that the "other" machine is really the same
one...


I think that it would be possible to export (and re-import) the entire key :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities]

....to transfer all your OE and WAB settings to the "other" PC...

But if you do this you should also copy over the corresponding folder from within
:

%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Identities

....to the same folder on the new installation.


And also, to copy your WAB Address book file from the :

%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book\

....folder to the corresponding folder on the new installation.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Peter DeVita said:
Thanks Tim.

Do you if there is a way to run the 'settings and transfer' from data on the
same machine?

The problem I have is that my motherboard (CPU actually) died. I've
replaced/upgraded the motherboard in my old machine. I had hoped to simply
start up and run all my old code. Hoever, the mother board BIOS and
drivers/controllers had other ideas. XP - SP2 would not run, not even from
the CD as a fresh start. XP64 did work, which is how I have arrived at my
current state.

I cannot export any other email settings from my old code as I cannot run
it. I had 4 email addresses set up two of which I had exported so those I
have retrieved. The other two are buried within the old OE.

Is there an easy way to find registry keys - ie export and then import?
Reference to some document on this would be good.

Thanks a lot for the info.



--
DeVita Associates


Tim Meddick said:
Peter,
For Windows' settings - you can transfer them with the "Settings and
Transfer Wizard" (F.A.S.T).

For OE - there are loads of settings that can be "exported" as files (i.e.; email
account settings) and the "imported" on the other PC.

You can also copy over your OE email folders over to the new PC (as DBX files) but
be
sure to put them into the right "identity's" folder.

With some of your more important programs, you might want to copy their registry
keys
over (export - copy - import HKCU / HKLM \Software\CompanyName\...) and some
programs still use .ini files to hold their settings in their program's folder.

You may want to take this sort of trouble if you have a particular program that
you spent some time "getting just right" and it CAN indeed, save you time in the
long
run...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Peter DeVita said:
Thanks Jerry.
I am aware that one cannot simply copy programs - not like the old days with
DOS!

What I am looking for are any tricks with setups to make it faster. eg: OE
and the email address setups plus all my email folders. For some moves,
registry data must either be changed or tricked by changing what the
regirstry is already pointing to.

I'm sure I'm not the first one who has swaped out a motherboard for whatever
reason and is left with a similar problem.
I'll slowly re-install everything but would still be interested in any short
cuts.

Thanks again.
--
DeVita Associates


:

You can't just 'move' the programs over - you have to reinstall them. Once
that is done you could then copy any photos, letters, files you created
over.

Hi,
Does anyone know how to migrate old installs when on the same disc. The
standard method assumes that the old system is still available and
running.
In my case, the CPU went into thermal runnaway and hung the system. Since
it
was an older CPU replacing it was not economical. So I upgraded to an Asus
P5Q-E which support 64 bits. Unfortunately, the BIOS was out of date and
the
drivers on XP SP2 do not work with this hardware so I got error
0x0000007B.
Same was true when I attempted to run from the CD.

I then installed XP64 which worked fine (I also upgraded to BIOS to get
rid
of the boot error with their 'Gate' software). I installed XP64 on the
same
partition as my old XP but in a new directory. So all my old stuff is
still
there.

Is there an easy way to move everything over?

Thanks,
 
P

Peter DeVita

Excellent Tim, I'll give that a try.

I will still need to run the old XP on my new MB though. Last try it told me
it could not find NTKRNLmp though there are at least 5 copies on the disc
drive. This is better that the previous BSOD I was getting - the BIOS update
may have fixed this.

In any case there is still some gremlin there messing up the pointers.

Thanks for the help.
--
DeVita Associates


Tim Meddick said:
Peter,
Yes, you just run it and place [export] the data [files] on to some removable
media, such as a USB drive.

Then just re-import the settings, as per described in the instructions you will be
given as you save the settings, on the "other" machine.

The Wizard will be oblivious to the fact that the "other" machine is really the same
one...


I think that it would be possible to export (and re-import) the entire key :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities]

....to transfer all your OE and WAB settings to the "other" PC...

But if you do this you should also copy over the corresponding folder from within
:

%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Identities

....to the same folder on the new installation.


And also, to copy your WAB Address book file from the :

%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book\

....folder to the corresponding folder on the new installation.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Peter DeVita said:
Thanks Tim.

Do you if there is a way to run the 'settings and transfer' from data on the
same machine?

The problem I have is that my motherboard (CPU actually) died. I've
replaced/upgraded the motherboard in my old machine. I had hoped to simply
start up and run all my old code. Hoever, the mother board BIOS and
drivers/controllers had other ideas. XP - SP2 would not run, not even from
the CD as a fresh start. XP64 did work, which is how I have arrived at my
current state.

I cannot export any other email settings from my old code as I cannot run
it. I had 4 email addresses set up two of which I had exported so those I
have retrieved. The other two are buried within the old OE.

Is there an easy way to find registry keys - ie export and then import?
Reference to some document on this would be good.

Thanks a lot for the info.



--
DeVita Associates


Tim Meddick said:
Peter,
For Windows' settings - you can transfer them with the "Settings and
Transfer Wizard" (F.A.S.T).

For OE - there are loads of settings that can be "exported" as files (i.e.; email
account settings) and the "imported" on the other PC.

You can also copy over your OE email folders over to the new PC (as DBX files) but
be
sure to put them into the right "identity's" folder.

With some of your more important programs, you might want to copy their registry
keys
over (export - copy - import HKCU / HKLM \Software\CompanyName\...) and some
programs still use .ini files to hold their settings in their program's folder.

You may want to take this sort of trouble if you have a particular program that
you spent some time "getting just right" and it CAN indeed, save you time in the
long
run...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Thanks Jerry.
I am aware that one cannot simply copy programs - not like the old days with
DOS!

What I am looking for are any tricks with setups to make it faster. eg: OE
and the email address setups plus all my email folders. For some moves,
registry data must either be changed or tricked by changing what the
regirstry is already pointing to.

I'm sure I'm not the first one who has swaped out a motherboard for whatever
reason and is left with a similar problem.
I'll slowly re-install everything but would still be interested in any short
cuts.

Thanks again.
--
DeVita Associates


:

You can't just 'move' the programs over - you have to reinstall them. Once
that is done you could then copy any photos, letters, files you created
over.

Hi,
Does anyone know how to migrate old installs when on the same disc. The
standard method assumes that the old system is still available and
running.
In my case, the CPU went into thermal runnaway and hung the system. Since
it
was an older CPU replacing it was not economical. So I upgraded to an Asus
P5Q-E which support 64 bits. Unfortunately, the BIOS was out of date and
the
drivers on XP SP2 do not work with this hardware so I got error
0x0000007B.
Same was true when I attempted to run from the CD.

I then installed XP64 which worked fine (I also upgraded to BIOS to get
rid
of the boot error with their 'Gate' software). I installed XP64 on the
same
partition as my old XP but in a new directory. So all my old stuff is
still
there.

Is there an easy way to move everything over?

Thanks,

 
T

Tim Meddick

Peter,
I believe I have made some error in the paths to the Outlook Express (DBX
files) Folder and the Address Book WAB file.

They should have read :


Outlook Express DBX virtual "folder" files :
"%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{GUID}"


Address Book (WAB) :
"%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book\%USERNAME%.WAB"


Where {GUID} stands for your alpha-numerical - Globally Unique IDentifier. If in
doubt, where there are more than one of these so-named folders, look in them for a
file whose last modified date relates to your last email.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Peter DeVita said:
Excellent Tim, I'll give that a try.

I will still need to run the old XP on my new MB though. Last try it told me
it could not find NTKRNLmp though there are at least 5 copies on the disc
drive. This is better that the previous BSOD I was getting - the BIOS update
may have fixed this.

In any case there is still some gremlin there messing up the pointers.

Thanks for the help.
--
DeVita Associates


Tim Meddick said:
Peter,
Yes, you just run it and place [export] the data [files] on to some
removable
media, such as a USB drive.

Then just re-import the settings, as per described in the instructions you will be
given as you save the settings, on the "other" machine.

The Wizard will be oblivious to the fact that the "other" machine is really the
same
one...


I think that it would be possible to export (and re-import) the entire key :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities]

....to transfer all your OE and WAB settings to the "other" PC...

But if you do this you should also copy over the corresponding folder from
within
:

%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Identities

....to the same folder on the new installation.


And also, to copy your WAB Address book file from the :

%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book\

....folder to the corresponding folder on the new installation.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Peter DeVita said:
Thanks Tim.

Do you if there is a way to run the 'settings and transfer' from data on the
same machine?

The problem I have is that my motherboard (CPU actually) died. I've
replaced/upgraded the motherboard in my old machine. I had hoped to simply
start up and run all my old code. Hoever, the mother board BIOS and
drivers/controllers had other ideas. XP - SP2 would not run, not even from
the CD as a fresh start. XP64 did work, which is how I have arrived at my
current state.

I cannot export any other email settings from my old code as I cannot run
it. I had 4 email addresses set up two of which I had exported so those I
have retrieved. The other two are buried within the old OE.

Is there an easy way to find registry keys - ie export and then import?
Reference to some document on this would be good.

Thanks a lot for the info.



--
DeVita Associates


:

Peter,
For Windows' settings - you can transfer them with the "Settings and
Transfer Wizard" (F.A.S.T).

For OE - there are loads of settings that can be "exported" as files (i.e.;
email
account settings) and the "imported" on the other PC.

You can also copy over your OE email folders over to the new PC (as DBX files)
but
be
sure to put them into the right "identity's" folder.

With some of your more important programs, you might want to copy their
registry
keys
over (export - copy - import HKCU / HKLM \Software\CompanyName\...) and some
programs still use .ini files to hold their settings in their program's folder.

You may want to take this sort of trouble if you have a particular program
that
you spent some time "getting just right" and it CAN indeed, save you time in
the
long
run...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Thanks Jerry.
I am aware that one cannot simply copy programs - not like the old days with
DOS!

What I am looking for are any tricks with setups to make it faster. eg: OE
and the email address setups plus all my email folders. For some moves,
registry data must either be changed or tricked by changing what the
regirstry is already pointing to.

I'm sure I'm not the first one who has swaped out a motherboard for whatever
reason and is left with a similar problem.
I'll slowly re-install everything but would still be interested in any short
cuts.

Thanks again.
--
DeVita Associates


:

You can't just 'move' the programs over - you have to reinstall them. Once
that is done you could then copy any photos, letters, files you created
over.

Hi,
Does anyone know how to migrate old installs when on the same disc. The
standard method assumes that the old system is still available and
running.
In my case, the CPU went into thermal runnaway and hung the system. Since
it
was an older CPU replacing it was not economical. So I upgraded to an Asus
P5Q-E which support 64 bits. Unfortunately, the BIOS was out of date and
the
drivers on XP SP2 do not work with this hardware so I got error
0x0000007B.
Same was true when I attempted to run from the CD.

I then installed XP64 which worked fine (I also upgraded to BIOS to get
rid
of the boot error with their 'Gate' software). I installed XP64 on the
same
partition as my old XP but in a new directory. So all my old stuff is
still
there.

Is there an easy way to move everything over?

Thanks,

 

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