Migrate from Netware to Windows 2000

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I have a Netware 5.1 server that I will be migrating to Windows 2000 (same
hardware platform). Are there any software tools out there to simplify the
process? Or has anyone installed w2k over netware and restored data from
tape?

Thanks,
chris
 
GSNW can help during the migration, though in smaller sites it can be
more trouble than it is worth to setup and administer.

Understand that you can run both client32 and the MS client stacks on the
same system -- passthrough authentication will usually work fine and allow
access to resources on both sides during the transition. I've done migrations
that lasted four months with this configuration.

If you are using, say Backup Exec, you can restore files from the NDS platform
to Windows; it will even restore MS tape format, ArcServe, QIC, etc. (at
last as long as they aren't software-compressed or password
protected). But NW permissions and a whole host of other things won't
translate and this leads to an awful lot of manual work. Over-the-wire with
two server is much better.

If you only have one server and are trying to do the migration in a single step,
it is frankly much more difficult, and I recommend against doing it this way
unless there is just no choice.

If you have a spare workstation around, I'd suggest loading up Windows
Server on that, use it for a temporary platform during migration, or at least
for testing. When you are ready to switch you back it up, turn down Netware
and just restore to the production server.

This MS article is a good reference in that it may point out a few things you
haven't thought of.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/sfnmig.mspx

Best of success.

Steve Duff, MCSE, MVP
Ergodic Systems, Inc.
 
Steve,

Thanks for the info. Let me provide a little more and maybe another
alternative will come up.

In the location where we want to migrate a Netware server to Windows (we
have a 2000 domain), we currently have two netware servers and two w2k
member servers. In our windows network, we have two locations (which are not
the location mentioned above) with one dc in each. I'm located in the 'main'
location with a FSMO role holder dc, which also has the netware client
running on it. We are migrating the netware server to windows to keep users
from having to authenticate over the wire (which is happening in our novell
network :< ). The two member servers we have in that location are for a
mortgage application that will use sql & terminal services. One fancy tool
that Novell has that is really excellent is a piece of software called
Migration Wizard and it helps migrate from older versions of netware to
newer ones or to new hardware. It's very cool! I was hoping that there would
be a similar tool (not exceptionally expen$ive) that would allow me to
migrate data from the server to a secondary location and install windows
2000 server on the old netware server. Does this make sense?

Outside of the above possibility, is there a quick way to move data from one
machine to another? Another downside is that mortgage application that is
currently running will remain until the last of the applications have been
fulfilled.

I briefed over the link you sent. Will that cover info for win2k servers
also?

Thanks,
Chris
 
Win2K and Win2K3 are essentially the same as regards
a Netware migration. There are some minor DNS differences
(notably the lack of conditional forwarding) that might come in
handy in some larger migration scenarios, but nothing that can't
be worked around easily.

You should take a look at Microsoft's SFN here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sfn/default.mspx

this is a free download, but you must read the technical descriptions
if not also the various deployment white papers. I think overall it could
prove helpful in your case.

Quest software has a not-exactly-free migrator tool I've never used
but it reportedly provides a very tight NDS-AD migration, and the
person who told me about it reported that it worked well.


Steve Duff, MCSE, MVP
Ergodic Systems, Inc.
 
Steve,

Thanks again! I'll check this out.
C
Steve Duff said:
Win2K and Win2K3 are essentially the same as regards
a Netware migration. There are some minor DNS differences
(notably the lack of conditional forwarding) that might come in
handy in some larger migration scenarios, but nothing that can't
be worked around easily.

You should take a look at Microsoft's SFN here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sfn/default.mspx

this is a free download, but you must read the technical descriptions
if not also the various deployment white papers. I think overall it could
prove helpful in your case.

Quest software has a not-exactly-free migrator tool I've never used
but it reportedly provides a very tight NDS-AD migration, and the
person who told me about it reported that it worked well.


Steve Duff, MCSE, MVP
Ergodic Systems, Inc.
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