Microsoft Spyware Office 2003`

[Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]]

Hi Jeff Malka ([email protected])
in the Microsoft® newsgroups
you posted:

|| I too am uncomfortable about this practice and I am not unusually
|| paranoid.
||
|| Let's be honest about it. There is something sleazy about MS setting
|| this up as the default and expecting the user to know about it and
|| how to turn it off. A more honest way would have been to make the
|| reverse the default and allow the user who wishes to access the
|| internet for undated information the "option" of turning that access
|| on rather than having it imposed it on him/her without their
|| knowledge or approval. The present cookie may not have any personal
|| information in it, but once the user public becomes accustomed to
|| the practice, it would be very easy for MS "updates" to change the
|| nature of the cookie in a manner similar to the spy cookies used by
|| freeware and spyware.
||
|| It is not a good development.

A more honest way? How are they being dishonest? They are not tracking you.
You see way too many black helicopters. And this is an option that the user
can control.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Office Publisher MVP
Official Publisher MVP Site:
http://www.kvalheim.org

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[Eric Lawrence [MSFT]]

There is something sleazy about MS setting this up

We very clearly indicate to users that we're searching online when we do so.
You can simply hit the Stop button if you don't want to search on the web.
We plainly offer the "Online Content Settings" link in the Help pane to
configure your preference.

Why do we search online by default? Because most of our users want the
best, most up-to-date, most complete help, and that help lives on the web.
Unfortunately, we simply can't pack more bits on the CD than it can hold,
and we can't update the bits on the CD after it's in the box.

The present cookie may not have any personal information in it, but once
the user public becomes accustomed to the practice, it would be very easy
for MS "updates" to change the nature of the cookie in a manner similar to
the spy cookies used by freeware and spyware.

Neither spyware nor freeware uses cookies to any great extent.

In contrast, advertising companies often use cookies to track your surfing
though the Internet, but the Office.microsoft.com cookie is used by that
site exclusively. No other site can access this cookie, nor is this cookie
ever linked to any other site.

There would be no possible benefit to Microsoft to change the cookie to
"spy" on you, even if it were possible.

Thanks,

Eric Lawrence
Program Manager
Assistance and Worldwide Services

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[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Well Eric, you see Microsoft just cannot be trusted.

Microsoft have so often breached customers trust, they can no longer be
trusted in any way whatsoever.

The options should be set by default to - OFF and users could be advised if
they wanted these options switched on.

What Microsoft did was to bury the options many menus deep in a deceitful
way so users did not find them easily on configuring the options.

Now, stop talking nonsense when it comes to CD's. The latest Office 2003
Professional is reduced to 2 x CD's. Previously MS Office has come on a
minimum of 4 x CD's.

What is more, the incompetent fool failed dummies MS employs cannot even get
the install routine correct.
Shared components are not supposed to be un-installed when you remove an old
version.

The fact is, there is *ZERO* quality control at MS, and there is no
management in control.

Microsoft today is like a rudderless ship wandering about the world abusing
its power and cannot get their act together. Is Bonsai Bush the overall
manager of Microsoft?

Perhaps Microsoft could import some talented sane quality management from
North Korea or India to manage the show.

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illegally held prisoners they are
torturing, abusing and denying
human rights being held at
Guantanamo Bay.

 

[Paul Ballou]

Since you feel so strongly opinionated about MS and that they are creating
spyware why continue to complain just use the alternatives that are offered.

 

[rifleman]

Now, stop talking nonsense when it comes to CD's. The latest Office 2003
Professional is reduced to 2 x CD's. Previously MS Office has come on a
minimum of 4 x CD's.

Absolute RUBBISH! office 95 - ONE cd. Office 2000 - ONE cd. Office XP - ONE
cd. Depends on what version you buy.

 

[Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]]

Hi °°°MS°Publisher°°° ([email protected]),
in the Microsoft® newsgroups
you posted:

|| Well Eric, you see Microsoft just cannot be trusted.

David, are you saying that you know more than Eric, which happens to be the
guy that is responsible for these features? If so, I would like to know how
you rate so well.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Office Publisher MVP
Official Publisher MVP Site:
http://www.kvalheim.org

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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

News Flash: Office 97 was on a single CD, and Office 2K and
Office XP, depending upon the specific version, came on 2 CDs. If you
can't even count to 4, what makes you think your arguments bear any
credibility?

Bruce Chambers

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[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Sure I can count 1, 2, 3 & 4 that is how many CD's my Office 2000 is on.

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The US should free all those
illegally held prisoners they are
torturing, abusing and denying
human rights being held at
Guantanamo Bay.

 

[Jaylee]

Are you sure you have an official version ;-)


Op Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:08:11 +1100schreef "°°°MS°Publisher°°°"

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

We are a civilised law abiding nation, unlike the dutch........have you had
your shot of drugs today?

--

The US should free all those
illegally held prisoners they are
torturing, abusing and denying
human rights being held at
Guantanamo Bay.

 

[Jaylee]

Shot?? We don't shoot here, no weapons allowed;-)

Op Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:15:06 +1100schreef "°°°MS°Publisher°°°"

 

[Alex Nichol]

News Flash: Office 97 was on a single CD, and Office 2K and
Office XP, depending upon the specific version, came on 2 CDs. If you
can't even count to 4, what makes you think your arguments bear any
credibility?

The Office XP I have - Professional with Frontpage, ie comprehensive -
as it came in a MSDN subscription is on ONE CD, and uses only about 450
MB of that. If you get Office in a fragmented form - with Front page
separate for example, it would be on more, and if you count in things
like Publisher, which seem to be being brought into the definition of
'Office' in 2003, then it would need more - but still fit on a DVD

 

[CZ]

News Flash: Office 97 was on a single CD, and Office 2K and
Office XP, depending upon the specific version, came on 2 CDs.

Bruce:

My Office XP and Office 2k products are on 4 CD disc sets each.

 

[Budget Print Center]

Depended on what options you ordered... my office2k was 4 cd's

 

[Ed Bennett]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message
from jaylee_nl at yahoo.com (Jaylee) <jaylee_nl at yahoo.com
(Jaylee)>...

Are you sure you have an official version ;-)

IIRC, Office 2000 Premium came on four CD-Roms.

 

[Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]]

Hi Ed Bennett ([email protected]),
in the Microsoft® newsgroups
you posted:

|| After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a
|| message from jaylee_nl at yahoo.com (Jaylee) <jaylee_nl at yahoo.com
|| (Jaylee)>...
||| Are you sure you have an official version ;-)
||
|| IIRC, Office 2000 Premium came on four CD-Roms.

One CD had the main Office 2000 components, while CD 2, CD 3, CD 4 came with
Publisher, PhotoDraw and Clipart.

The normal Office components fit on one CD.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Office Publisher MVP
Official Publisher MVP Site:
http://www.kvalheim.org

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[rifleman]

Depended on what options you ordered... my office2k was 4 cd's

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And mine was 2 cds.....

 

[JL Amerson]

I have my box of Office XP Professional - and it came directly from
Microsoft. I have two program CDs, one Step-by-Step training CD, one Visio
Std 2002 trial CD, and one FrontPage 2002 trial CD. Guess that means I have
FIVE CDs. Do I win??

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

He/she with the most toys always wins!!!

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The US should free all those
illegally held prisoners they are
torturing, abusing and denying
human rights being held at
Guantanamo Bay.

 

[JL Amerson]

Yea!!! I won! I won! What's my prize? Come on, tell me!!