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Alun Jones
Jon said:
Thank you for reminding me of this very funny piece.
It's amazing how many people are fooled by this and think it's a piece of
serious writing.
Alun.
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Thank you for reminding me of this very funny piece.
It's amazing how many people are fooled by this and think it's a piece of
serious writing.
Alun.
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Robert Moir
Susan said:
Let's clear something up right now:
Just because you found it in google doesn't make it true.
Spyware is not the same as Adware (though one certainly can be the other as
well).
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Robert Moir
Jon said:
As I've already said, just because you found it on google doesn't make it
true
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Alun Jones
Robert said:
"But it was written by an expert"
What are his credentials that make him an expert?
"He's self-diagnosed - and since he's an expert, he obviously must have made
the correct diagnosis."
This is how Gibson gets so many fans. It doesn't make him right, either.
Alun.
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Catamount
Nice trolling, however, there is a way to block such things. USE
FIREFOX OR OPERA!
Thank you, drive through and welcome to my Trollblocking filter.
FIREFOX OR OPERA!
Thank you, drive through and welcome to my Trollblocking filter.
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Imhotep
Charlie said:
Rumor has it they already have....
Are you actually saying this is OK????
Ok, blame the user. Common now. This is Microsoft, we are *supposed* to
trust them are we not????
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Imhotep
Charlie said:
...ads on the web page is one thing. Installing adware on ones pc is
another....
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Imhotep
PA said:
None, that I have detected...how about you???
Imhotep
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Imhotep
Jon said:
DOH!
Imhotep
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Imhotep
Alun said:
hummmmm I expected better WinExcuses than that. What a let down. Common
guys, you slipping....
Imhotep
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Imhotep
Alun said:
On a serious note, there have been many rumors that MS escaped the US Gov
ripping them into two companies (ie Anti Trust case) *because* they did
make a deal with the US gov...I for one do believe that there was some kind
of a deal made. I bet the US gov would love to have a backdoor in the MS
products throughout the World...now that is a spy's dream come true...
Imhotep
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Imhotep
Jupiter said:
So in your career you do not get raises for being a MV-whatever???? Then, I
guess you do get paid for being one...
Imhotep
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Imhotep
Catamount said:
DOH!
Imhotep
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Imhotep
The said:
Yes, we do....
Imhotep
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Imhotep
Susan said:Yes. I googled before I asked the question and found that this
Microsoft Ad Server problem is VERY COMMON and that the cleanup &
hijack & Ad-Aware & SpybotSD & SpywareBlaster programs all IDENTIFY &
REMOVE the problem dynamic linked libraries and the dozen or so files
installed by Microsoft if you say OK just once, but all these programs
are powerless to PREVENT the request from being transparent to the
millions of us poor users!
Following the helpful suggestions, I just doublechecked using the top
three web browsers (IE 6.0.2900.2180.spxp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519, Netscape
8.0.2, & Firefox 1.0.6) by logging into my hotmail email account and
clicking around. Here are the results for the many others with this
problem to help solve together.
NETSCAPE:
For each repeated attempt to connect to the onerous Microsoft
Advertising Server (rad.msn.com), Netscape 8.0.2 constantly pops up
forms saying "That domain name cannot be found", probably due to the
127.0.0.1 loopback interface I added to the WinXP hosts file for that
Microsoft Repeat Advertising Server "rad.msn.com". So this is a
workaround, but, not a good one.
INTERNET EXPLORER:
Instead of popping up a separate dialog box, IE displays an inline
warning for every repeated Microsoft ADSAdClient Advertising Delivery
Service attempt, saying:
"The page cannot be displayed. The page you are looking for is
currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical
difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings."
Again, this is probably due to the hosts file localhost loopback I
added for the rad.msn.com repeate advertising server.
FIREFOX:
Only in Firefox (my preferred browser), does the separate request to
download the Microsoft Advertising Server dynamic linked library (dll)
repeatedly pop up as noted in the original posting (even though I have
the rad.msn.com site listed in my standard hosts file from
http://www.infonomicon.org/text/hosts
IMPORTANT NOTE:
This rad.msn.com (spyware adware trojan) is so very commonly a problem
for so many users that it is in almost all (if not all) hosts files I
could find on the Internet, for example all these have "rad.msn.com"
redirected to localhost!
http://forums.springheadmedia.com/PHPexamples/viewtopic.php?p=38
http://www.genericgeek.com/index.php?q=node/538
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=si_hijack&message.id=16799
END RESULT:
1. This is a very well known problem which the spybot and others fail
to remove (according to my google searches) but which can be worked
around for all but the Firefox browser by redirecting the loopback for
the rad.msn.com repeat advertising server.
2. For now, I'm forced to use Netscape or (heaven forbid) IE as my
browser but I really really prefer Firfox (and so do many other people)
so I think this is still a problem that isn't solved yet (for Firefox).
3. Since this is so very well known, anyone who tested it who does NOT
see the problem is probably ALREADY infected! Apparently the standard
Ad-Aware, Spybot Search & Destroy, SpywareBlaster, etc programs can
REMOVE the problem but they can't PREVENT the annoyance each time
(which is the main intent) as noted in many google searches today.
http://defectivehw.blogspot.com/2005/04/msn-messenger-7-is-out.html
http://forums.serverlogistics.com/viewtopic.php?p=522&sid=82f7afe392df201533f5ec9d90873603
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t45897.html
So, I think we STILL have a huge problem considering the millions of
hotmail users who also use any of the browsers above (Firefox is the
worst, but it's not transparent even on IE or Netscape).
I do very much thank you for the advice (which I've followed to a T,
having had all the spyware/adware scanners & blockers already
installed) that we still need is a Windows expert who can solve this
problem for the millions of us who use Hotmail and any of the three
browsers above.
Do experts know how to totally prevent the Microsoft Ad Delivery
Service from bothering the user EVERY time they log into their Hotmail
account on Firefox?
Thank you in advance, for all of us,
Susan Harm
What, no WinExcuses from anyone in response to this person post??? No
WinMisDirections??? No WinLies??? I am disappointed...
Imhotep
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Imhotep
Rod said:
Maybe you should elaborate a little more? Try illustrating why it is BS...
Testy, testy....
Or you simple can install linux or trade it for an Apple. Seems simpler than
that fire thingy you keep mentioning but, hey if it work for you....
Hey, see above...
Imhotep
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S. Pidgorny
Imhotep said:
Yep we all heard of the NSA backdoor. It is still there, renamed. FPGA
doesn't have market penetration because they also made a deal with Intel and
AMD and put backdoors right in the processor microcode. At the moment FPGA
is the only technology that allows for truly free hardware, but the
government works on fixing that. They are just making sure that your vote
doesn't count and there is no free speech. Kim Jong Il is your only hope.
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Mister Kurtz
Any cites on that deal that you /believe/ was made?
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The Real Bev
Imhotep said:
They invested in Apple in order to keep its only viable competition afloat.
Perhaps that's why they haven't launched a serious attack against linux.
Any Californians see any money from the lawsuit yet?
Oh yeah. Nice pyramids. Keep up the good work.
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TeVan
I can't find any either...
Oh well, false alarm.
Cheers
Oh well, false alarm.
Cheers