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redd cannon
every since I loaded windows xp, I keep getting messenger
service messages, and I want them to stop, can anyone
help me
service messages, and I want them to stop, can anyone
help me
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Redd;
These ads are using Messenger Service.
Messenger Service is a valuable tool many use.
Like many tools, it can be exploited.
No need to pay for the fix.
For Messenger Service ads:
You need to install or enable a firewall:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330904
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Disabling Messenger Service can be a good idea, but it does not solve
the real problem.
The ads are not the real problem, the ads are only a symptom.
The real problem is open ports that allow unwanted traffic into the
computer.
Disabling Messenger does nothing for the open ports.
The firewall controls the traffic.
Internet Connection Firewall will not work if you have AOL.
AOL is not compatible with Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
(ICF)
If you have AOL, you should contact AOL and/or get a 3rd party
firewall:
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home.jsp
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/
Also see:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/security.htm
These ads are using Messenger Service.
Messenger Service is a valuable tool many use.
Like many tools, it can be exploited.
No need to pay for the fix.
For Messenger Service ads:
You need to install or enable a firewall:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330904
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Disabling Messenger Service can be a good idea, but it does not solve
the real problem.
The ads are not the real problem, the ads are only a symptom.
The real problem is open ports that allow unwanted traffic into the
computer.
Disabling Messenger does nothing for the open ports.
The firewall controls the traffic.
Internet Connection Firewall will not work if you have AOL.
AOL is not compatible with Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
(ICF)
If you have AOL, you should contact AOL and/or get a 3rd party
firewall:
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home.jsp
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/
Also see:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/security.htm
N
Norm
Right click on My Computer and then click Manage. Under Services, find
Messenger Service, right click and select properties and change it to manual
start.
Messenger Service, right click and select properties and change it to manual
start.
P
Phil
You should never post to disable the messenger service without first
mentioning to turn on a firewall. The correct answer is to turn a firewall
mentioning to turn on a firewall. The correct answer is to turn a firewall
G
Guest
N
Norm
I have no software firewalls running, only the hardware protection that my
cable modem provides through RoadRunner and I have never had any problems.
The poster is also on RoadRunner and I suspect has a cable modem also.
Maybe I'm wrong in running this way but I never argue with success.
cable modem provides through RoadRunner and I have never had any problems.
The poster is also on RoadRunner and I suspect has a cable modem also.
Maybe I'm wrong in running this way but I never argue with success.
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Norm;
Extremely dangerous advice.
Stopping the symptom while doing NOTHING for the actual issue of an
unprotected computer.
A firewall is the correct fix.
Disabling Messenger Service may also be a good idea.
See my other post this thread.
Extremely dangerous advice.
Stopping the symptom while doing NOTHING for the actual issue of an
unprotected computer.
A firewall is the correct fix.
Disabling Messenger Service may also be a good idea.
See my other post this thread.
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Norm;
Perhaps you have a hardware firewall.
It is not really a good idea to assume others have the same equipment
even if the ISP is the same.
Others see your suggestion may also have a different ISP.
They try your solution and find it stops the symptoms and mistakenly
believe the problem is solved.
Also just because you have not had the same problem does not mean you
do not have related problems.
True, "never argue with success", but be sure you are actually
successful before you assume it works.
See this link:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/security.htm
Perhaps you have a hardware firewall.
It is not really a good idea to assume others have the same equipment
even if the ISP is the same.
Others see your suggestion may also have a different ISP.
They try your solution and find it stops the symptoms and mistakenly
believe the problem is solved.
Also just because you have not had the same problem does not mean you
do not have related problems.
True, "never argue with success", but be sure you are actually
successful before you assume it works.
See this link:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/security.htm
C
Courtney
Norm: Might I suggest you get a firewall. A cable modem provides absolutely
no protection from the Internet.
Perhaps you are referring to a router, which can provide some protection.
In any case, be aware that the the port used by Messenger is the same port
used by W32.Blaster@mm and W32.Welchia@mm.
courtney sends....
no protection from the Internet.
Perhaps you are referring to a router, which can provide some protection.
In any case, be aware that the the port used by Messenger is the same port
used by W32.Blaster@mm and W32.Welchia@mm.
courtney sends....
P
Phil
A cable modem IS NOT a firewall and does not protect you in anyway at all.
Turn on a firewall immediately. You're probably already infected with a
virus and/or have been hacked and you may not even know it. Turn on a
firewall. Sounds like your thinking of a router that does NAT. A router will
act as a firewall, but the cable modem does not. If you know others that
think the cable modem protects you like a firewall, please explain to them
it does not and to turn on a firewall.
Turn on a firewall immediately. You're probably already infected with a
virus and/or have been hacked and you may not even know it. Turn on a
firewall. Sounds like your thinking of a router that does NAT. A router will
act as a firewall, but the cable modem does not. If you know others that
think the cable modem protects you like a firewall, please explain to them
it does not and to turn on a firewall.
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
This type of spam has become quite common over the past couple
years, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you're certainly open to other threats, such as the Blaster, Welchia,
and Sasser Worms that still haunt the Internet. Install and use a
decent, properly configured firewall. (Merely disabling the messenger
service, as some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does
little or nothing to truly secure your machine.) And ignoring or just
"putting up with" the security gap represented by these messages is
particularly foolish.
Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893
Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904
Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
This type of spam has become quite common over the past couple
years, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you're certainly open to other threats, such as the Blaster, Welchia,
and Sasser Worms that still haunt the Internet. Install and use a
decent, properly configured firewall. (Merely disabling the messenger
service, as some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does
little or nothing to truly secure your machine.) And ignoring or just
"putting up with" the security gap represented by these messages is
particularly foolish.
Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893
Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904
Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
How is that supposed to protect the computer from incoming
threats?
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
How is that supposed to protect the computer from incoming
threats?
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
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Plato
redd said:every since I loaded windows xp, I keep getting messenger
service messages, and I want them to stop, can anyone
help me
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Kevin Davis³
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?
Don't forget that the Messenger Service would also provide a useful
service to hackers if it is not patched:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/ms03-043.asp
Setup a firewall first, but if you don't need the Messenger Service,
turn it off. If you need it, patch it. You would also be well
advised to spend $50 and buy a home router.
Be especially wary of people who would insist on having you keep the
Messenger Service on as a "helpful feature" and conveniently
forgetting to inform you that it has a very serious vulnerability that
needs to be patched immediately.
And of particular interest is that Microsoft itself and security
experts are seriously reconsidering the role of the Messenger service:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/10/28/HNmessengeroff_1.html
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,113321,tk,dn110703X,00.asp
http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-5095935.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/11/07/microsoft.popup.reut/index.html
Here's a link where Microsoft actually outright advises the user to
turn off the Messenger Service:
http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Those who would advise not to turn off the Messenger Service for the
less than trivial unintended side benefit of being a warning is
dispensing advice which contradicts the advice of many real security
professionals.
The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert.
If you were protecting your house and you had one door that nobody
ever used and that door was really loud and squeaky, would you:
A: Keep the door unlocked all the time and actually depend on the
loud squeak of the door to be an integral part of your house alarm
system to alert you of an intruder?
or
B. Since no legitimate people would ever use the door, bar the door
shut so that there was no chance no-one could enter through it?
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