Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram

[Guest]

Hi,
If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from 300-400Mb
at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think I've seen it as high
as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in
TM processes is less than the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded
a page file size program and get the following at startup:
Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
Session Peak Usuage: 76
Current Pagefile Size: 1536
After several days:
Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
Session Peak Usuage: 1590
Current Pagefile Size: 1714
It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
Thanks

 

[John John]

Hi,
If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from 300-400Mb
at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think I've seen it as high
as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in
TM processes is less than the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded
a page file size program and get the following at startup:
Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
Session Peak Usuage: 76
Current Pagefile Size: 1536
After several days:
Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
Session Peak Usuage: 1590
Current Pagefile Size: 1714
It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
Thanks

Using Performance Monitor to Identify a Pool Leak
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130926/

How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
Memory Leaks
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415

http://search.microsoft.com/results...0=Search&FORM=QBME1&l=1&mkt=en-US&PageType=99
http://www.delmar.edu/Courses/ITSY2400/eBooks/WinXP(PerformanceTuning).pdf

John

 

[Gerry]

Do you use any old 16 bit programmes? These often do not release memory
until you restart the computer.

Programmes which have an Undo feature e.g. photo editing will consume
inordinate amounts until you finalise what you are editing.

Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes which version?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information.

What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on
your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get
this information.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
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[Guest]

Thanks John, the links you provided have me looing into how to back up the
registry first. I'm going to start there first.
Marc

 

[Guest]

1. No
2. Yes, TurboCad. this happens when I'm not using TurboCad.
3. Adobe Reader 8
4. Currently: T=810000, L-3510000, P=863000
5. 3 Ghz, 2GB

 

[Gerry]

There are known problems with Adobe Reader 8 in terms of memory leaks.
Which version exactly do you have? Is it the free or a purchased
version?

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc2ffd5

Do you use it to read only or do you use it's editing capability?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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[Guest]

Adobe 8.0.0. Free version. I only use it to view.

 

[Gerry]

Uninstall Adobe. If you only use Adobe to read documents you might find
Foxit Reader (freeware) a more satisfactory programme:
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

Test it out and observe the affect on memory usage.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Guest]

John,
Poolmon requires I access Start/Settings/Control Panel/Console. I don't
have Console in my Control Panel. Can I use the Windows 2000 method,
Start/Run/cmd/properties?

 

[John John]

Yes, it runs in the Command Console, what we commonly refer to as a the
Command Prompt.

John

 

[bojimbo26]

If you only use it to read , try using Foxitsoftware reader , easier
to use and much smaller program .

 

[Guest]

Sorry to pester you again. My OS is XP Prof. but I am unable to find
poolmon.exe on my drive. To get gflags.exe I had to down load the 'Debuging
Tools for Windows'. I've reviewed several of the tech docs for poolmon and it
appears that this finding a memory leak is pretty involved. I plan to get
poolmon running and evaluate whether or not i'm up to the task.

Thanks for your help,
Marc

 

[John John]

Poolmon is a Resource Kit tool, you can download the kit here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...76-9BB9-4126-9761-BA8011FABF38&displaylang=en

Yes, this is a "pretty involved" tool! Use other methods first to see
if the pool leak is caused by an application or process. If you cannot
find an application at fault then the pool leak might be caused by a
driver, use poolmon to try to find out which driver might be leaky.
Read KB298102 (How to Find Pool Tags That Are Used By Third-Party
Drivers) to decipher the tags. Poolmon *is* difficult to use! It
requires advanced skills and you will have to read up on it, finding
leaky drivers is usually a difficult task.

Drivers.exe, another Resource Kit utility, can also be used to try to
find driver paged pool leak, snap it to file when you start the
computer, at a Command Prompt redirect the output to file:

Drivers >C:\leaky.txt

then snap it again at various intervals and append to the log file:

Drivers >>C:\leaky.txt

(Note the double >> to append to the existing file) You can open the
file with a spreadsheet program to make it easier to read an interpret
the output, the "Paged" values are what you would be interested in.

For applications you can monitor them with Perfmon or you can do much
the same as with drivers.exe above by using Memsnap.exe which is also an
RK utility.

John

 

[Gerry]

Are you sure your problem is not Adobe Acrobat Reader? See my earlier
post!


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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[Guest]

I haven't used Adobe in several days. I 've restarted My computer at least 3
times since then and Task Manager currently reports 1.13 Gb in PF usuage. It
usually starts out at about 350Mb. Is this someting that happens even if you
are not running the program?
Marc

 

[Guest]

Thanks again. If I ever get to the bottom of this I'll report back.
Marc

 

[John John]

Keep in mind that the PF Usage reported by Task Manager is quite
misleading. Use Perfmon if you want to get the real Paging File usage.
It's reported by percent usage, you have to do a bit of calculation to
get the usage size. Or you can use the small utility here:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

John

 

[Guest]

I've been usuing XP_PageFileMon.exe . The current output is:
Current Page file usuage: 789
Sesssion peak usage: 789
Current pagefile size: 1536
I can't get two of the short cuts don't work but the page file log always
updates.
Marc

 

[Gerry]

Uninstall Adobe. If you only use Adobe to read documents you might find
Foxit Reader (freeware) a more satisfactory programme:
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

Test it out and observe the affect on memory usage.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Guest]

Will Flash still work? I also have a problem keeping flash running. I've
had to reload it several times. Actuall I have to run Subinacl.exe just to
get it to load. If I try to uninstall Flash (per Adobe web site) the
uninstaller hangs. It usually takes so many attempts to get flash working,
that I'm never really sure what actually gets it going again. I'd rather not
stir the Adobe pot if I don't have to.

Marc