Maxthon vs firefox

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m.c. said:
Do you are a Maxthon developer ?
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Accusing people of having an ulterior motive if they express a
preference for something you don't happen to like is a weak argument.
 
Comparing the functionality-to-size of the two of them -- which is what
You already know you were misleading? :)
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OK Aaron, I'll make it so plain you can't help but understand: No amount of
nagging, whining, complaining, or warning me the sky will fall will make me
use Firefox in it's current state of development. Think you can remember
that? If so, it will save you a lot of typing in the future. But please DO
let me know if a new release of FF takes a big leap ahead. I don't want to
be left behind. ;)

-- Bob
 
OK Aaron, I'll make it so plain you can't help but understand: No
amount of nagging, whining, complaining, or warning me the sky will
fall will make me use Firefox in it's current state of development.
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Bob, Who says I don't understand your irrational love of Maxthon? You are
welcome to use whatever you like, but when you make misleading statements
to make Maxthon look good, that's when I (as well as others) call you on it
..
Think you can remember that? If so, it will save you a lot of typing
in the future.
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My memory works fine thanks. Do cease typing out misleading statements
though, this will save people a lot of unnecessary typing to correct this ,
thanks.
But please DO let me know if a new release of FF takes
a big leap ahead. I don't want to be left behind. ;)
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You already are ;)
 
In message <[email protected]> Fuzzy Logic
Here is a interesting quote from one of the IE developer's on this very
topic:

The issue of not being part of the Operating System is an interesting one
though that is frequently the subject of misunderstanding. IE is part of the
Windows Operating System so that parts of the OS and other applications can
rely on the functionality and APIs being present. IE in turn relies on
Operating System functionality to do it's job. To be clear there are no
Operating System APIs that IE uses that are not documented on MSDN as part
of the platform SDK and available to other browsers and any other software
that runs on Windows. The security of any browser is irrelevant to if it is
part of the operating system.

If we are to debate security of browsers then let's bring in relevant
arguments and accurate details about different possible attacks rather than
rely on the irrational fear that because IE is part of the operating system
it must be exposing OS functionality to the web. This is not the case as any
software has access to the same set of OS APIs and can therefore expose the
same set of OS functionality as IE.
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This isn't entirely true. It's possible to run FireFox in a different
security context then your main OS. It is not possible to run IE in a
different security context then your primary user account.
 
Dick Hazeleger said:
Like the "Mozilla IFRAME" vulnerability the next day? Look, I follow
software vulnerability and security reports on a daily basis; usually
they aren't issued on Sunday... the critical security holes (actually
it were three more... read Secunia's site...) report was - and by two
independant, so it appeared to me that this really was important!

Now, let's agree that ANY software can have security issues; IE, Opera;
and FF too, shall we?

Question: When would you believe that FF has a *major* security issue?
When it is announced by G.W. Bush (either one of the two) on the US
PBS, or what??? My goodness, those who write FF's code are humans, not
gods... and as the saying goes: To err is human!!! Time to wake up and
understand that!

I agree that the Moz. folks respond much faster than the folks from
Redmont, and that IE had many, many security related problems... all
true, but... FF is just a program, it ain't religion, nor a cult...
just a program, and programs have bugs which can be security related.

I probably will get fried to a crisp over this, since the "Hail the
Almighty FireFox" attitude here, if so... then so be it!

Regards,
Dick Hazeleger

FF, IE and Opera user (disadvantage of being a webmaster :-)
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Touche! Well said. I use OE but not IE (directly). It seems to me that
OE/IE and FF both are but roads that take one to some other place; thus
being highways, as they are travelled upon, potholes occur.

I also think that slickwilliegates does not give ALL of any program for use.
I think OE 5.5 is an example. Once it was learned that people could do
all sorts of things with it....(like user control, they yanked it back)...well
having said that, and having heard that some believe XP offers more
control....hummm.... well, in a way, but the bottom line is still slickwillie
pulling the strings. There isn't anything you do in XP that isn't logged and
available to slickwillieInc! So "control" is quiet an ambiguous term.

BTW I tried that red dragon monster years ago. The inteface alone was
a turn off...I noticed it grabbing everything on my desktop and subjecting
them (audio/visual) to its control. So it's all about a power play. One
can only hope that stiff competition will keep slickwillie inc., on their toes.
As the big guy on the block of course they make the biggest target. Kinda
reminds me of the USA and all the nasty comments made about how awful
it is,....by those 'foreigners' here and or wanting to be here! As bad as it
is, it's still the best country in the world!

Helen
 
On 15 May 2005, Helen wrote
Kinda reminds me of the USA and all the nasty comments made about
how awful it is,....by those 'foreigners' here and or wanting to
be here! As bad as it is, it's still the best country in the
world!
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I'm glad you think so -- it's good for people to think highly of their
own country.

(I don't slam the US in any way; but I have absolutely zilch interest
in visiting, let alone moving, there.)
 
OK Aaron, I'll make it so plain you can't help but understand: No amount of
nagging, whining, complaining, or warning me the sky will fall will make me
use Firefox in it's current state of development. Think you can remember
that? If so, it will save you a lot of typing in the future. But please DO
let me know if a new release of FF takes a big leap ahead. I don't want to
be left behind. ;)
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Ditto...

Initially I was considering FireFox, but all the threads in this group
have convinced me that FireFox is not Freeware, but instead Free
Crapware. Future releases of Firefox may make it a viable Freeware
Browser Product, but at this point it is not.
 
Initially I was considering FireFox, but all the threads in this group
have convinced me that FireFox is not Freeware, but instead Free
Crapware.
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Then obviously, you didn't read the threads very well, but only keyed in
on the posts that support your false assumption.

I'm through defending Firefox and trying to convert IE and IE shell
users. If you are comfortable using a clunky, outdated browser that has
security holes out the wazoo, many of which are unpatched going back 2
years, then that's your perogative. I may think of you when I'm enjoying
using the best web browser yet, one that is only getting better all the
time, but likely not.
 
elaich said:
I may think of you when I'm enjoying
using the best web browser yet, one that is only getting better
all the time, but likely not.
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So you switched to K-Meleon?
 
So you switched to K-Meleon?
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I am tired of people confusing browser shells with browser engines. K-
meleon is a Gecko shell, no matter how they try to say otherwise. It's
Firefox/Mozilla with an altered shell, just like Maxthon is IE with an
altered shell. K-meleon has all the same advantages, disadvantages, and
flaws that Firefox does. I can use extensions and tweaks to make my
Firefox look and behave exactly like K-meleon.
 
I'm through defending Firefox and trying to convert IE and IE shell
users. If you are comfortable using a clunky, outdated browser that has
security holes out the wazoo, many of which are unpatched going back 2
years, then that's your perogative.
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I've tried three versions of Firefox over the last year and always went
back to Maxthon/IE. I'll keep trying though. Someday they may get it
right.
 
elaich said:
I am tired of people confusing browser shells with browser engines. K-
meleon is a Gecko shell, no matter how they try to say otherwise. It's
Firefox/Mozilla with an altered shell, just like Maxthon is IE with an
altered shell. K-meleon has all the same advantages, disadvantages,
and flaws that Firefox does. I can use extensions and tweaks to make
my Firefox look and behave exactly like K-meleon.
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If only there was a Firefox extension to make it use IE Favorites instead of
the Bookmarks file. I installed K-Meleon just because of that plugin, but
once I saw it couldn't handle most of the FF extensions I love...
(uninstall)

I know FF has an extension called SyncMarks, and I use it. It keeps the
Mozilla Bookmarks synched with the Favorites, but is slow.
 
elaich said:
I can use extensions and tweaks to make my
Firefox look and behave exactly like K-meleon.
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Really? There's an extension that makes FF twice as fast?
 
Really? There's an extension that makes FF twice as fast?
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Firefox loads almost instantly on my computer (1200 GHz, 256M.) If yours
doesn't, maybe it's time for a faster machine.
 
In message said:
Firefox loads almost instantly on my computer (1200 GHz, 256M.) If yours
doesn't, maybe it's time for a faster machine.
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1200GHz... No wonder it loads instantly.
 
elaich said:
Firefox loads almost instantly on my computer (1200 GHz, 256M.) If
yours doesn't, maybe it's time for a faster machine.
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1.5 ghz, 512m

So much for your "faster machine" idea.
 
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