Max size of recycle bin

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Dennis

No matter what I do with the "Maximum size of Recycle Bin" slider, the
"Space reserved" stays at 3.99GB. Is this some kind of limitation?
 
V

VanguardLH

Dennis said:
No matter what I do with the "Maximum size of Recycle Bin" slider, the
"Space reserved" stays at 3.99GB. Is this some kind of limitation?

4GB is the max regardless of the slider's percentage position.


This is the maximum that it will use, not what get pre-allocated or
reserved just for use by the Recycle Bin. If you don't have 4GB of free
disk space then you aren't going to magically get 4GB for use by the
Recycle Bin.
 
V

VanguardLH

VanguardLH said:
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=jXKwYmguVeI

What the hell was that? Guess Clipmate, a clipboard manager, got
disconnected from the Windows clipboard so I pasted an old clip into my
post here. Some poster go wowed by 6-year technology about electric
skateboards with handheld wireless remotes so I showed that now they
don't even need the remote control (no, I don't waste my time with any
skateboards unless you count skis). Clipmate does that now and then and
I have to go into the program to use its reconnect function to start
capturing clips again. Sorry.

The link that I meant to show was:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2139504,00.asp

So, yes, under Windows XP, the Recycle Bin will hold the *smaller*
amount of the percentage slider value or 3.99GB. Microsoft lets it grow
larger in Vista+.

Understand that deleting a large number of files can be severely slowed
if you leave enabled the Recycle Bin. Say you have a folder of 5000
video files that are rather huge in size, like 3GB. You want to delete
2000 of them. Well, it's first-in, first-out for the Recycle Bin. To
delete the 3GB file means having to get rid of old deleted files still
in the Recycle Bin to make room for that newly deleted 3GB file. So
Recycle Bin permanently deletes enough files to make room for the one
incoming 3GB file. Then it deletes the next 3GB file; however, there
isn't enough room with the prior deleted 3GB (and whatever was left
before after the cleanup) for the next 3GB file. Recycle Bin has to do
cleanup again by permanently deleting the 3GB file it holds to make room
for the next 3GB file coming into the Recycle Bin. And the cleanup
process repeats for every one of those huge incoming files. This is a
slow process: remove enough of previously deleted files to make room for
an incoming deleted file, and it's done one incoming file at a time. It
doesn't use a smart algorithm to see that your 2000 3GB files won't get
held in the Recycle Bin and just discard (permanently delete) the first
1999 of them and just keep the 2000th 3GB deleted file.

So if you delete lots of files at once, or if you delete many that are
all huge in size, deletion will get slowed because of having to do the
Recycle Bin cleanup routine on each individual incoming deleted file.
I remember once it was taking hours to delete thousands of large files
from a folder. I aborted the deletion (of all the remaining thousands
of files), disabled the Recycle Bin, and did the mass deletion again and
it completed in seconds.
 
C

Char Jackson

What the hell was that? Guess Clipmate, a clipboard manager, got
disconnected from the Windows clipboard so I pasted an old clip into my
post here. Some poster go wowed by 6-year technology about electric
skateboards with handheld wireless remotes so I showed that now they
don't even need the remote control (no, I don't waste my time with any
skateboards unless you count skis). Clipmate does that now and then and
I have to go into the program to use its reconnect function to start
capturing clips again. Sorry.

The link that I meant to show was:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2139504,00.asp

So, yes, under Windows XP, the Recycle Bin will hold the *smaller*
amount of the percentage slider value or 3.99GB. Microsoft lets it grow
larger in Vista+.

Understand that deleting a large number of files can be severely slowed
if you leave enabled the Recycle Bin. Say you have a folder of 5000
video files that are rather huge in size, like 3GB. You want to delete
2000 of them. Well, it's first-in, first-out for the Recycle Bin. To
delete the 3GB file means having to get rid of old deleted files still
in the Recycle Bin to make room for that newly deleted 3GB file. So
Recycle Bin permanently deletes enough files to make room for the one
incoming 3GB file. Then it deletes the next 3GB file; however, there
isn't enough room with the prior deleted 3GB (and whatever was left
before after the cleanup) for the next 3GB file. Recycle Bin has to do
cleanup again by permanently deleting the 3GB file it holds to make room
for the next 3GB file coming into the Recycle Bin. And the cleanup
process repeats for every one of those huge incoming files. This is a
slow process: remove enough of previously deleted files to make room for
an incoming deleted file, and it's done one incoming file at a time. It
doesn't use a smart algorithm to see that your 2000 3GB files won't get
held in the Recycle Bin and just discard (permanently delete) the first
1999 of them and just keep the 2000th 3GB deleted file.

So if you delete lots of files at once, or if you delete many that are
all huge in size, deletion will get slowed because of having to do the
Recycle Bin cleanup routine on each individual incoming deleted file.
I remember once it was taking hours to delete thousands of large files
from a folder. I aborted the deletion (of all the remaining thousands
of files), disabled the Recycle Bin, and did the mass deletion again and
it completed in seconds.

I agree with everything you said, but there's no need to actually
disable the Recycle Bin. Just do a Shift-Delete if you need to bypass
it one time.
 

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