Master page elements

[Guest]

Hi,

More master page problems. I hope this question is clear. I've created a
template that works well except for the title page. I don't want to have a
subtitle placeholder available for use and don't have one included in the
template, but when I create a new document based on this template, the title
page has two placeholders: one for the title and one for subtitle. Where did
that placeholder come from and how do I make sure that it doesn't show up
again?

 

[Michael Koerner]

Did you, when you deleted the subtitle placeholder in the Master Title Slide
resave the changes as a PowerPoint Template (.pot) file?

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Michael Koerner [MS PPT MVP]


Hi,

More master page problems. I hope this question is clear. I've created a
template that works well except for the title page. I don't want to have a
subtitle placeholder available for use and don't have one included in the
template, but when I create a new document based on this template, the title
page has two placeholders: one for the title and one for subtitle. Where did
that placeholder come from and how do I make sure that it doesn't show up
again?

 

[Guest]

yes I did. and if I delete it from the "new" document then reapply the
master, it reappears. I even rechecked the master by doing a select all to
see if maybe it was hiding behind an image or something. I'm trying to make
this template as "idiot-proof" as possible and not give the end users much
lee-way in straying from our corporate look - this box shouldn't be there. If
it is, then they'll use it and we (the corporate look gurus) don't want them
to have the option

 

[Luc]

JoAnne,
Same problem here PTT 2003. It always comes back. Worse, there is a black
line around it. Where that came from I do not know. I'd say it's a bug.
The only thing I can think off is to drag the subtitle placeholder into the
grey area surrounding the slide. If you (resize) and drag it far enough it
will not be visible to the user.
Luc

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Hi,

More master page problems. I hope this question is clear. I've created a
template that works well except for the title page. I don't want to have a
subtitle placeholder available for use and don't have one included in the
template, but when I create a new document based on this template, the title
page has two placeholders: one for the title and one for subtitle. Where did
that placeholder come from and how do I make sure that it doesn't show up
again?

If you don't have a Title Master as well as a regular Slide Master, PowerPoint
uses its own internal defaults for slides based on the Title autolayout.

Add a title master and you can replace its defaults with your own ideas.

View, Master ... if Title Master is grayed out, we have bingo.
In that case, choose Slide Master, then choose Insert, New Title master.

Format it to suit.

 

[Guest]

I'm using 2003 as well. And it doesn't always happen. If I create a new pres
and choose "recently used templates", it doesn't happen. If I do this, put
some text in then click "reapply layout", it throws that subtitle box in. If
I apply the new template to an existing presentation tho it always appears,
even if there wasn't a subtitle in the old, pre-formatted version. I'm just
trying to work out all the "kinks" here so, as I said, there's the least
chance for deviance from the template. If I leave in the box where it lands,
it goes over embedded images that text should not be flowing over. I don't
want to give the impression to anyone that it's ok to have text there.

 

[Luc]

Steve,
I think she has a Title master already. She just wants the subtitle on the
title master to disappear completely. Which can't be done as far as I can
tell.
Or did I misunderstand her question/your answer completely?
Luc

 

[Guest]

Luc,

I think you've got it - I do have a title master with one place holder: for
the title. I don't want the subtitle placeholder and have deleted it from my
title master and saved the whole template as a .pot. When I use it, ppt
arbitrarily puts the subtitle placeholder back in - not always when I create
a new presentation, but when I apply it to an existing presentation (i.e.
want to format an old pres with the new look) and/or hit "reapply layout" to
the title page.

 

[Luc]

Hello again JoAnne,
When I read your question I vaguely remembered a similar question being some
time ago.
There are some interesting answers there. When you Google for it, you will
find it under the subject "Title master -> subtitle problems", coming from
"Ward", date : "2004/01/28".
Hope this helps.
Luc

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

JoAnne,
Same problem here PTT 2003. It always comes back. Worse, there is a black
line around it. Where that came from I do not know. I'd say it's a bug.

That can also happen when there's no title master.

Add one and it should fix the problem, Luc.

 

[Guest]

hi luc

thanks for all your help. at the risk of sounding like a complete moron, am
I looking on this site for the thread, or actually going out to
www.google.com? i can't seem to find where you're pointing me. thx.

 

[Guest]

This has been driving me nuts - I hate when I figure something out!! I do
think that it's a bug - when I look at the Master Layout while in the title
page Master view, it gives me all the elements available for that page:
Title, Text (subtitle), Date, Slide Number and Footer. If I delete any of
those elements off the master page, they stay deleted, EXCEPT for the title
and text placeholders. So, I tried the reverse just to see: deleting the
title one and keeping the text. When I reapplied, both appeared. So, they are
somehow linked to each other. Does anyone at Microsoft read these posts?
There seems to be a common theme that people would like to have more freedom
with respect to formatting etc. Can we get the message across to TPTB??

thanks for all your help!!

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

JoAnne/Luc,

My mistake. I see the problem now. Even if there's a Title Master with the
Text placeholder deleted, you still get a subtitle placeholder on new title
slides.

One possible way around the problem is to format the Text placeholder on the
title master so that the text is small and the same color as the gray area that
surrounds the slide, then drag it *just* off the slide.

If you really want to get serious, run this while it's selected:

Sub HideIt()
ActiveWindow.Selection.ShapeRange(1).Visible = msoFalse
End Sub

Now it's invisible and the subtitle will stay invisible on the slides based on
the title master

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Luc,

I think she has a Title master already. She just wants the subtitle on the
title master to disappear completely. Which can't be done as far as I can
tell.
Or did I misunderstand her question/your answer completely?

No, I fear I jumped to the wrong conclusion before you even had your athletic

 

[Luc]

JoAnneSim,
Yes just Google for it in the section newsgroups, advanced. Just put the
subject I gave you next to subject and put Ward as the author.
You will see an interesting contribution by John Langhans, MSFT. He's a
regular contributor of Microsoft to this newsgroup.
Luc

This has been driving me nuts - I hate when I figure something out!! I do
think that it's a bug - when I look at the Master Layout while in the title
page Master view, it gives me all the elements available for that page:
Title, Text (subtitle), Date, Slide Number and Footer. If I delete any of
those elements off the master page, they stay deleted, EXCEPT for the title
and text placeholders. So, I tried the reverse just to see: deleting the
title one and keeping the text. When I reapplied, both appeared. So, they are
somehow linked to each other. Does anyone at Microsoft read these posts?
There seems to be a common theme that people would like to have more freedom
with respect to formatting etc. Can we get the message across to TPTB??

thanks for all your help!!

hi luc

thanks for all your help. at the risk of sounding like a complete moron, am
I looking on this site for the thread, or actually going out to
www.google.com? i can't seem to find where you're pointing me. thx.

Hello again JoAnne,
When I read your question I vaguely remembered a similar question being some
time ago.
There are some interesting answers there. When you Google for it, you will
find it under the subject "Title master -> subtitle problems", coming from
"Ward", date : "2004/01/28".
Hope this helps.
Luc

"JoAnne Sim" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
Luc,

I think you've got it - I do have a title master with one place holder:
for
the title. I don't want the subtitle placeholder and have deleted it from
my
title master and saved the whole template as a .pot. When I use it, ppt
arbitrarily puts the subtitle placeholder back in - not always when I
create
a new presentation, but when I apply it to an existing presentation (i.e.
want to format an old pres with the new look) and/or hit "reapply layout"
to
the title page.

:

Steve,
I think she has a Title master already. She just wants the subtitle on
the
title master to disappear completely. Which can't be done as far as I can
tell.
Or did I misunderstand her question/your answer completely?
Luc
"Steve Rindsberg" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht

 

[Luc]

Steve,
You had me worried there for a moment. I have been known to misread a
question though.
Take care
Luc

Luc,

I think she has a Title master already. She just wants the subtitle on the
title master to disappear completely. Which can't be done as far as I can
tell.
Or did I misunderstand her question/your answer completely?

No, I fear I jumped to the wrong conclusion before you even had your athletic

Luc

 

[Guest]

hi again - thanks for all your help. I don't think that this problem is
solvable, but I would like to read what you've outlined. I still can't seem
to find where to search. do I leave the MS site and go to Google, or are you
using google as a verb, and are telling me to search within this newsgroup?
Sorry to be such a moron - I'm ususally quicker than this, but can't seem to
find my way there. You could also e-mail me the link if you can to
(e-mail address removed)

thanks again
js

JoAnneSim,
Yes just Google for it in the section newsgroups, advanced. Just put the
subject I gave you next to subject and put Ward as the author.
You will see an interesting contribution by John Langhans, MSFT. He's a
regular contributor of Microsoft to this newsgroup.
Luc

This has been driving me nuts - I hate when I figure something out!! I do
think that it's a bug - when I look at the Master Layout while in the title
page Master view, it gives me all the elements available for that page:
Title, Text (subtitle), Date, Slide Number and Footer. If I delete any of
those elements off the master page, they stay deleted, EXCEPT for the title
and text placeholders. So, I tried the reverse just to see: deleting the
title one and keeping the text. When I reapplied, both appeared. So, they are
somehow linked to each other. Does anyone at Microsoft read these posts?
There seems to be a common theme that people would like to have more freedom
with respect to formatting etc. Can we get the message across to TPTB??

thanks for all your help!!

 

[Luc]

JoAnne,
Start Google, click on "Groups" just above the inputfield, choose "advanced
groups search" you will find it to the right of the google search button.
Now fill in what you want: next to "return only messages from the newsgroup"
type microsoft.public.powerpoint, next to Author type Ward, next to subject
"Title master -> subtitle problems". It is usually also better to limit the
date you are searching, next to "return messages posted between" choose
2003. Now hit the Google search button.
That should return the said post, there are 7 contributions If I recall
correctly, mostly from regulars and MVP's.
Luc

 

[Guest]

Luc,

Got it! thanks very much - looks like what I've done is all that can be
done. I'm going to send MS a note using that link. I'd like to see more
flexibility in layout options i.e. placeholders, etc.

This is problably not possible either, but worth a shot to ask anyways. Is
it possible to edit the "click to add title" or "click to add text" fields in
the placeholders? I'd like to be able to put french instructions in the
french template and english in the english.

you're a gem!!

 

[Luc]

JoAnne Sim,
Not natively no. But since you ask, there is a workaround, sort of anyway.
Create your Master - title master - return to your presentation and make
some slides, put in your French, German, or other text in the placeholders.
Save the lot as a Powerpoint template.
Now go to the task pane "New document", click on the link From
AutoContentWizard under the "new" section. Click on the category you want to
put the template in, click on Add. Select your template. Complete the wizard
using the next button and finish at the end.
This implies that the user must use the autocontentwizard to make his/her
presentation. This could prove something of a hassle for them. Especially
since you mentioned in an earlier message that they are not allowed to stray
from your corporate lay-out.
But maybe someone reading this else will have better ideas.
Luc

Luc,

Got it! thanks very much - looks like what I've done is all that can be
done. I'm going to send MS a note using that link. I'd like to see more
flexibility in layout options i.e. placeholders, etc.

This is problably not possible either, but worth a shot to ask anyways. Is
it possible to edit the "click to add title" or "click to add text" fields in
the placeholders? I'd like to be able to put french instructions in the
french template and english in the english.

you're a gem!!