Mac Address

S

Saucy

No, you can have an "Locally Administered Address" or somesuch, that
overrrides the hardcoded one. I've been changing the MAC addresses here for
years. Then I clone it onto my router and my cable company ISP then detects
a new MAC address and assigns a new IP for it ..

I change it through the "Configuration" button on the property sheet
(General tab) of the "Network Connection" that represents the NIC card.

Saucy

 
G

Guest

Chris,
What version of Vista RC2 are you using?

Have you find out if the NIC is a VISTA certified card, or latest driver?

In order to be Microsoft certified NIC (with the "Designed for Microsoft xxx
logo"), the NIC must support MAC Address changing via registry.

I am curious if the latest driver for VISTA will include the support to keep
themselves in compliance with MS?

/
 
S

Saucy

Doesn't matter. You can change them. And yes they are unique. But the
numbers are so huge 000000000000 that there are literally trillions of
possibilities that the chance of a conflict on any particular network
circuit is so extremely small that it just won't happen except by design .
So go ahead and change it.




 
B

Barry Watzman

Not all network cards support changing the MAC address. When they do,
it's usually with a utility that comes on the driver disc that ships
with the card.
 
B

Barry Watzman

That's not always true. Some high-end cards (many 3Com cards) have the
MAC address in flash memory instead of hard ROM and have a utility that
does allow changing it.
 
T

Tim Draper

just read this thread and it amazes me how much people dont know about
this.. :p

i got both nvidia and marvell NIC's on my system (DFI SLI-DR mobo) - can
change mac address in windows. seems to be common settings on ALL NIC's
as far as i've seen.

ok...... here's how....
device manager > network adaptors > double click the NIC you want to
change > advanced tab > 'network address'
click the 'value' tick box thingy, and tap in the text box your desired
MAC address, WITHOUT - or . seperating.

i've needed todo this for my nvidia NIC as it reports a mac# of all 0's.
weridly my home network doesnt need a mac address assigned.
when i goto my local lan, then having a mac# of all 0's causing serious
issues. i use the mac address of my marvell NIC, and increase it's value
of 1, so no issues.

to check it is assigned the mac# correctly, start>run>cmd> 'ipconfig /all'
"Physical Address" = your assigned Mac address.


tim
 
C

Cris

Hi
Chris,
What version of Vista RC2 are you using?

Build 5744

Have you find out if the NIC is a VISTA certified card, or latest driver?

Yes it is, Vista recognize this card perfectly during install and used MS
drivers, info from
Driver tab:

Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Date: 2006-08-01
Driver Version: 9.20.0.3
Digital Signer: microsoft windows



In order to be Microsoft certified NIC (with the "Designed for Microsoft
xxx
logo"), the NIC must support MAC Address changing via registry.

And that is strange thing cuz when im changing MAC via Advanced Driver
settings
and then going to check in registry everything seems to be working fine.
Registry value - network address is proper. But when im typing ipconfig /all
mac is unchanged and i cant plug into my isp...........
Funny thing is that in Vista RC1 it was working fine and it was excaly this
same driver !!!!!


C.
 
C

Cris

Pavel A. said:
Use "*NetworkAddress" instead of "NetworkAddress"
(note the star ) - will it help?


Star noted but I dont know what u have in mind :)
I dont have *NetworkAddress setting with *.
You mean to change it like this in registry ?


C.
 
R

Richard G. Harper

I think I read your posts just fine, thanks.

MICROSOFT does not write drivers for hardware, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER
does. If the manufacturer submits the drivers to Microsoft, allows them to
be signed and put onto the Windows build, that's where you'll find them.
But they still weren't written by Microsoft, they were written by the
hardware vendor.

If something changed, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER changed it - not Vista.

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C

Cris

I think I read your posts just fine, thanks.

sure? :)))

MICROSOFT does not write drivers for hardware, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER
does. If the manufacturer submits the drivers to Microsoft, allows them
to be signed and put onto the Windows build, that's where you'll find
them. But they still weren't written by Microsoft, they were written by
the hardware vendor.

If something changed, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER changed it - not Vista.


so why in driver tab Driver Provider is an Microsoft not an Broadcom.
In my graphics driver tab Driver Provider is an ATI, so what is the point
of Driver Provider information if Microsoft means not Microsoft??? :F

Anyway i think u missed the point.
Issue is not to blame a MS or smth else of bad drivers (another thing is
why they sing them although they are not working propertly??? :))))
but why those same drivers where working fine in RC1 and in RC2 they dont.
And most important HOW TO CHANGE this freaking MAC.
Im not interested in who wrote those drivers Microsoft, Broadcom or Santa
Claus
i just want to change mac. Fortunately i found 3th party software and this
discousion
is pointless.


C.
 
T

Tim Draper

really chris.... read my other post. it is possible in windows. i've
done it. with 100% sucess. from a non-working lan, to a working lan all
through mac# change.
no 3rd party software is needed.

tim
 
G

Guest

Hey Chris,

Why don't you try:

1. confirm with the manufacturer and see if they are Certified by Vista.
Recognized by Vista doesn't mean they are certified by Microsoft.

2. Try another NIC that is certified by VISTA, and see if you have the same
problem. Most likely the driver from your existing card is not
supporting/recognizing the change of MAC in registry.

/
 
G

Guest

Hi Chris,

SMAC worked OK too for me because it spoofed the same way as MacMakeup. If
you spoof with SMAC (www.klcconsulting.net/smac) then reboot, does that work?
Just curious, because MacMakeup spoof MAC Address by changing the MAC
Address as well...
 
G

Guest

Hi Chris,

SMAC worked OK too for me because it spoofed the same way as MacMakeup. If
you spoof with SMAC (www.klcconsulting.net/smac) then reboot, does that work?
Just curious, because MacMakeup spoof MAC Address by changing the MAC
Address as well...
 

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