velcome...steve did most of the work though
| Also wanted to say thanks for clearing up the proper way to publish changes
| to a host. I'm now using the "Publish Web" menu and that works slick!
| Thanks!
|
| --
| Steve Molander
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <
[email protected]>
| wrote in message | You would use Publish, and unless you specify what NOT to publish, FP will
| bring down everything it needs (and sometimes more...like log files). I
| don't bring down the logs, because I get errors when publishing up - as
| they're not writeable...but you can fix that later.
|
| First, I'd have your host check the FP extensions as they are likely
| 'busted' from using WS_FTP.
|
| Once they do that.. open your site live with FP and File |Publish Web (Site)
| and tell it where to Publsh...on your hd. Usually its to C:/My Documents/My
| Webs...then whatever you want to name it..FP will create a new web there for
| you. (usually).
|
|
| | | So one last question .... since my process always has me editing the files
| | directly on the host computer, I don't have copies of all of the pages on
| my
| | local drive.
| |
| | In the past I've made backups of my site using WS-FTP and copying
| everything
| | over using transfer manager. Sounds like I don't want to use ftp any
| | longer.
| |
| | How can I bring copies of my pages and files FROM the host site TO my
| local
| | hard drive? I see where I can "export" page by page but don't see
| anywhere
| | that allows me a mass copy or the ability to copy entire folders and
| | content.
| |
| | Maybe I'm just missing something here .....
| |
| | --
| | Steve Molander
| |
| |
| | | | > One more thing I always do is: if I want to edit the "published"
| version
| | > on the server I always
| | > open it in FrontPage using File > Open Site and entering
| | >
http://webname.com I never open it in IE
| | > and then select Edit from the IE file menu. Although it works, it can
| be
| | > problematic.
| | >
| | >
| | > If you're using FP 2003 you might also want to "Synchronize" the web
| site.
| | >
| | > --
| | > Steve Easton
| | > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > 95isalive
| | > This site is best viewed............
| | > .......................with a computer
| | >
| | > | | >> Thanks!!!! I wasn't sure exactly what to ask them to do.
| | >>
| | >> I hope this helps!
| | >>
| | >> Thanks for the help.
| | >>
| | >> --
| | >> Steve Molander
| | >>
| | >>
www.stevemolander.com
| | >>
| | >> | | >> > Interesting:
| | >> >
www.stevemolander.com is running on an Apache server with extensions.
| | >> >
| | >> >
www.rayba.org is running on MSFT IIS 6.0 with extensions. I would
| ask
| | >> > the host to run a server
| | >> > health check and to also check / restore the extensions.
| | >> >
| | >> >
| | >> >
| | >> > --
| | >> > Steve Easton
| | >> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | >> > 95isalive
| | >> > This site is best viewed............
| | >> > .......................with a computer
| | >> >
| | >> > | | >> >> Thanks!
| | >> >>
| | >> >> I just followed you reset and dns cache clearing and no change.
| | >> >>
| | >> >> If I go to open
www.stevemolander.com and click edit, I'm put into
| | >> >> edit
| | >> >> mode
| | >> >> within seconds.
| | >> >>
| | >> >> Seems like my problem is either code within
www.rayba.org or
| something
| | >> >> with
| | >> >> my hosting provider.
| | >> >>
| | >> >> Suggestions from here?
| | >> >>
| | >> >> --
| | >> >>
| | >> >>
| | >> >> Steve Molander
| | >> >>
| | >> >>
| | >> >>
| | >> >> | | >> >> > the http:// method.
| | >> >> >
| | >> >> > 1. The first time I publish a new web to an extended server I
| enter
| | >> >> > the
| | >> >> > publish location as
| | >> >> >
http://websitename.com then enter user and pass when prompted and
| | >> >> > "off
| | >> >> > we
| | >> >> > go"
| | >> >> >
| | >> >> > From then on, I always edit / update local either on a disk based
| or
| | >> >> > server based ( IIS ) web, then
| | >> >> > to publish, with the web open, simply click File > Publish web (
| | >> >> > Publish
| | >> >> > site in FP 2003 ) with the
| | >> >> > publish options set to "Changed pages only" and FP automatically
| | >> >> > publishes
| | >> >> > the updates.
| | >> >> >
| | >> >> > To change from ftp:// to http:// simply enter a new publish
| location
| | >> >> > and
| | >> >> > change it to
| | >> >> >
http://websitename.com
| | >> >> >
| | >> >> > hth
| | >> >> >
| | >> >> >
| | >> >> > --
| | >> >> > Steve Easton
| | >> >> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | >> >> > 95isalive
| | >> >> > This site is best viewed............
| | >> >> > .......................with a computer
| | >> >> >
| | >> >> > | | >> >> >> Thanks! I'll give that suggestion a try. Yes, both workstations
| | >> >> >> are
| | >> >> >> running XP Pro.
| | >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> Also ... you explained the problems with ftp'ing well. I
| | >> >> >> understand
| | >> >> >> ....
| | >> >> >> but this may be a novice question, but when you refer to http://
| | >> >> >> for
| | >> >> >> file
| | >> >> >> transfer ... what exactly is that procedure or what are you
| using?
| | >> >> >> I've
| | >> >> >> always moved files by either using ftp or copy and past into FP
| | >> >> >> folder
| | >> >> >> structure. If there's a better way, then I'm all for it!
| | >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> Thanks
| | >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> --
| | >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> Steve Molander
| | >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> | | >> >> >> > Ok.
| | >> >> >> > The problem with publishing via ftp is that when you select
| FTP,
| | >> >> >> > FrontPage
| | >> >> >> > "assumes" there are no
| | >> >> >> > extensions on the server and therefore "may not" publish any /
| | >> >> >> > all
| | >> >> >> > files
| | >> >> >> > associated with features
| | >> >> >> > that require extensions.
| | >> >> >> > I also have ftp'd to an extended server, but I *very seldom*
| do,
| | >> >> >> > because
| | >> >> >> > imho it is much slower than
| | >> >> >> > publishing via http://
| | >> >> >> > ( at least it is on my 2K Pro FP 2003 machine over a DSL line (
| | >> >> >> > FP2002
| | >> >> >> > also, I have them both
| | >> >> >> > installed ))
| | >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> > Assuming you're running Windows 2000 or XP and also considering
| | >> >> >> > that
| | >> >> >> > FP
| | >> >> >> > uses Internet Explorer
| | >> >> >> > settings when accessing the WWW try these two things with FP
| and
| | >> >> >> > IE
| | >> >> >> > shut
| | >> >> >> > down.
| | >> >> >> > 1. Right click the IE icon on the desktop, click Properties,
| | >> >> >> > click
| | >> >> >> > the
| | >> >> >> > Programs tab, click the
| | >> >> >> > "reset web settings" button, in the pop-up uncheck "reset my
| | >> >> >> > homepage
| | >> >> >> > and
| | >> >> >> > then click Ok and OK.
| | >> >> >> > 2. Open a command window and type: ipconfig /flushdns and
| | >> >> >> > press
| | >> >> >> > enter.
| | >> >> >> > ( note there is a space between ipconfig and /flushdns )
| | >> >> >> > When done close the command window, and launch FP and see if
| | >> >> >> > there's
| | >> >> >> > a
| | >> >> >> > difference.
| | >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> > Let us know the results
| | >> >> >> > --
| | >> >> >> > Steve Easton
| | >> >> >> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | >> >> >> > 95isalive
| | >> >> >> > This site is best viewed............
| | >> >> >> > .......................with a computer
| | >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> > | | >> >> >> >> Just so I'm clear in my problem or how I use FP. Under almost
| | >> >> >> >> every
| | >> >> >> >> condition I will open my webpage for editing using the method
| | >> >> >> >> you
| | >> >> >> >> called
| | >> >> >> >> out
| | >> >> >> >> ... open FP, File, Open, webpage (or I go to my webpage in IE
| | >> >> >> >> and
| | >> >> >> >> click
| | >> >> >> >> the
| | >> >> >> >> "edit" icon).
| | >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> I have two websites I administer ... each on a different host.
| | >> >> >> >> My
| | >> >> >> >> personal
| | >> >> >> >> webpage is having no problems even though I'm also using
| shared
| | >> >> >> >> borders
| | >> >> >> >> (top
| | >> >> >> >> border only with links).
| | >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> I will use WS_FTP Pro if I want to move a large number of
| files
| | >> >> >> >> or
| | >> >> >> >> back
| | >> >> >> >> up
| | >> >> >> >> my webpage quickly (being aware of the hidden "_*" FP
| folders).
| | >> >> >> >> I've
| | >> >> >> >> used
| | >> >> >> >> this method on both sites since I first started building
| sites.
| | >> >> >> >> This
| | >> >> >> >> has
| | >> >> >> >> not caused any corruption or problems in the past. Either I'm
| | >> >> >> >> living
| | >> >> >> >> a
| | >> >> >> >> charmed life or I may have corrupted something this time
| around?
| | >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> Could I have something corrupted in my file structure at
| | >> >> >> >> GoDaddy?
| | >> >> >> >> Are
| | >> >> >> >> there
| | >> >> >> >> hidden files beyond what I can see through FP or ftp that need
| | >> >> >> >> attention
| | >> >> >> >> by
| | >> >> >> >> the server admins?
| | >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> BTW ... just opened the website using FP and it took over 3
| | >> >> >> >> minutes
| | >> >> >> >> for a
| | >> >> >> >> very basic site to open.
www.rayba.org And no *.web files
| | >> >> >> >> found
| | >> >> >> >> on
| | >> >> >> >> my
| | >> >> >> >> local drive.
| | >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> --
| | >> >> >> >> Steve Molander
| | >> >> >> >> | | >> >> >> >> > Since you have FrontPage extensions on the server you should
| | >> >> >> >> > *not*
| | >> >> >> >> > use
| | >> >> >> >> > ftp://
| | >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> > Close your web and FrontPage. Delete the *.web file
| | >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> > Repair the extensions then open FrontPage and then File >
| Open
| | >> >> >> >> > Web
| | >> >> >> >> > and
| | >> >> >> >> > enter
| | >> >> >> >> >
http://yourwebsitename.com and open the site that way. I
| | >> >> >> >> > think
| | >> >> >> >> > you'll
| | >> >> >> >> > find your "problems" go away.
| | >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> > --
| | >> >> >> >> > Steve Easton
| | >> >> >> >> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | >> >> >> >> > 95isalive
| | >> >> >> >> > This site is best viewed............
| | >> >> >> >> > .......................with a computer
| | >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> > | | >> >> >> >> >> I've cleared Internet Temps and Temp files on both machines
| | >> >> >> >> >> that
| | >> >> >> >> >> I
| | >> >> >> >> >> use.
| | >> >> >> >> >> I
| | >> >> >> >> >> didn't know about the *.web. I'll try that. Thanks.
| | >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >> If I open the site directly using ftp, it opens fine. I
| can
| | >> >> >> >> >> copy
| | >> >> >> >> >> and
| | >> >> >> >> >> paste
| | >> >> >> >> >> files without any problem. If I click a page to edit, FP
| | >> >> >> >> >> opens
| | >> >> >> >> >> and
| | >> >> >> >> >> I
| | >> >> >> >> >> get
| | >> >> >> >> >> what's become standard procedure ... body of web opens,
| | >> >> >> >> >> shared
| | >> >> >> >> >> borders
| | >> >> >> >> >> are
| | >> >> >> >> >> there but empty, images begin to show up as placeholder
| boxes
| | >> >> >> >> >> in
| | >> >> >> >> >> top
| | >> >> >> >> >> border,
| | >> >> >> >> >> wait ... wait ... wait ... then images appear in top border
| | >> >> >> >> >> and
| | >> >> >> >> >> links
| | >> >> >> >> >> show
| | >> >> >> >> >> up in left border.
| | >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >> --
| | >> >> >> >> >> Steve Molander
| | >> >> >> >> >> | | >> >> >> >> >> > How long since you've cleared your temporary internet
| | >> >> >> >> >> > files,
| | >> >> >> >> >> > and
| | >> >> >> >> >> > also
| | >> >> >> >> >> > the
| | >> >> >> >> >> > FrontPage temporary
| | >> >> >> >> >> > files??
| | >> >> >> >> >> > The FrontPage ones are cleared with your web open by
| | >> >> >> >> >> > clicking
| | >> >> >> >> >> > Tools
| | >> >> >> >> >> > >
| | >> >> >> >> >> > Web
| | >> >> >> >> >> > settings and clicking the
| | >> >> >> >> >> > Advanced Tab and then the delete files button.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> >> > If no improvement, close FrontPage and do a windows
| search
| | >> >> >> >> >> > for
| | >> >> >> >> >> > files
| | >> >> >> >> >> > named
| | >> >> >> >> >> > *.web and delete all
| | >> >> >> >> >> > found.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> >> > Then see if there's a difference.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> >> > However, you mentioned you're using FP over ftp on an
| | >> >> >> >> >> > extended
| | >> >> >> >> >> > server.
| | >> >> >> >> >> > You should open the site
| | >> >> >> >> >> > using http://
| | >> >> >> >> >> >
| | >> >> >> >> >> > --
| | >> >> >> >> >> > Steve Easton
| | >> >> >> >> >> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | >> >> >> >> >> > 95isalive
| | >> >> >> >> >> > This site is best viewed............
| | >> >> >> >> >> > .......................with a computer
| | >> >> >> >> >> >
| message
| | >> >> >> >> >> > | | >> >> >> >> >> >> Been hosting a website with GoDaddy.com for four years.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> Have
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> always
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> used
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> FP
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> (now using FP2002) over ftp. No problems until
| recently.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> Now when I open the website through FP, it takes ~ 1
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> minute
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> to
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> get
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> the
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> log
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> in form, then ~ another 2 minutes to open the index page
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> and
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> at
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> least
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> another minute or two to open the shared borders
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> (including
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> links).
| | >> >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> Once the page is opened I can edit without any problem.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> Saving
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> takes
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> a
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> bit
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> longer than I would expect but not to the extent of the
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> opening
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> sequence.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> I've uninstalled and reinstalled server extensions on
| the
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> server
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> (using
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> GoDaddy's services). I've checked code to see if I have
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> buggered
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> code
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> in
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> my
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> header. I've cleaned up the themes, border and overlay
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> folders
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> to
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> make
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> sure
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> any old styles are completely gone.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> Nothing changes. I'm also posting this to GodDaddy's
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> support
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> page
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> but
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> thought I would come here to see if anyone else has seen
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> problems
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> as
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> this.
| | >> >> >> >> >> >>
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> --
| | >> >> >> >> >> >> Steve Molander
| | >> >> >> >> >> >>
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