Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service Registery Problem

[Don]

(Sorry for the cross post, but I am at a loss to figure out what this
problem falls under.)

I have inherited administrator duties for a small Windows network in a lab.
The server is running Win2000 Server. Every time the machine is rebooted
(not often), it needs to be have the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\dmadmin key set to 3
and the system rebooted again (per KB307309 --
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307309). This gets
somewhat annoying to have to reboot the machine twice to get things running.

The HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\dmadmin key has to
be reset so the services with Symantec Anti Virus and ARCServe back-up will
run.

Any suggestions on how to permanently fix this problem?

Thanks!

Don

 

[Dave Patrick]

Make sure that no other services depend on this service.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| (Sorry for the cross post, but I am at a loss to figure out what this
| problem falls under.)
|
| I have inherited administrator duties for a small Windows network in a
lab.
| The server is running Win2000 Server. Every time the machine is rebooted
| (not often), it needs to be have the
| HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\dmadmin key set to 3
| and the system rebooted again (per KB307309 --
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307309). This
gets
| somewhat annoying to have to reboot the machine twice to get things
running.
|
| The HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\dmadmin key has
to
| be reset so the services with Symantec Anti Virus and ARCServe back-up
will
| run.
|
| Any suggestions on how to permanently fix this problem?
|
| Thanks!
|
| Don
|
|
|
|
|

 

[Don]

Dave,

I presume you mean to just kill the Logical Disk Manager Administrative
Service? Two questions then:

1) How do I determine if anything depends on this service?

2) How do I permanently stop it? Just go in the Services window and set it
so it does not start?

Thanks!!

Don

 

[Dave Patrick]

No, I did not. Control Panel|Administrative Tools|Services|"Logical Disk
Manager Administrative Service"|Properties|Dependencies and check that no
components depend on this service.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
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:
| Dave,
|
| I presume you mean to just kill the Logical Disk Manager Administrative
| Service? Two questions then:
|
| 1) How do I determine if anything depends on this service?
|
| 2) How do I permanently stop it? Just go in the Services window and set
it
| so it does not start?
|
| Thanks!!
|
| Don

 

[Don]

Dave,

Sorry if I got a little "over interpretive"!

Anyway, I did as you suggested and the Logical Disk Manager Administrative
Service neither depended on other services nor had any services depending on
it, so I disabled it. Couldn't reboot the system to see if it took care of
the problem, but left myself a note for the next reboot.

Interestingly, in both the 'depends on' and 'required by' sub-windows there
were two basically greyed out (graphically muted) lines which said
effectively "none". Next to those were the little information "I" icon.
Clicking on the icon it just said "this is a list of services
requiring/required by ....". When I looked at some of the other services,
the dependency windows were blank when there was not a dependency. Sort of
interesting.

Thanks for the help!!

Don

 

[Dave Patrick]

Then your service subkey is damaged to some extent.

dmadmin, Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service should depend on;

RpcSs, Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
PlugPlay, Plug and Play
DmServer, Logical Disk Manager


--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Dave,
|
| Sorry if I got a little "over interpretive"!
|
| Anyway, I did as you suggested and the Logical Disk Manager Administrative
| Service neither depended on other services nor had any services depending
on
| it, so I disabled it. Couldn't reboot the system to see if it took care
of
| the problem, but left myself a note for the next reboot.
|
| Interestingly, in both the 'depends on' and 'required by' sub-windows
there
| were two basically greyed out (graphically muted) lines which said
| effectively "none". Next to those were the little information "I" icon.
| Clicking on the icon it just said "this is a list of services
| requiring/required by ....". When I looked at some of the other services,
| the dependency windows were blank when there was not a dependency. Sort
of
| interesting.
|
| Thanks for the help!!
|
| Don

 

[Don]

Dave,

Ouch!! And I am now officially way out of my knowledge comfort zone!

I did some searches at MSDN on damaged subkeys and did not find anything
that was relevant.

The obvious questions are:

1) Is this a problem? If so how big?

2) How do I go about repairing this?

3) Is it likely there are other damaged service subkeys? If so, what is
the best course of action?


Any references you can point me to or good keywords for MSDN searches will
be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks for all the help!!

Don

 

[Crouchie1998]

Its just a suggestion, but you can create a batch file & add that to the run
key (HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run) that imports the
registry setting to the key you wish

Here's an example:

Create a reg file with the key you want to import

In a batch file:

regedit.exe /s [your reg file name here].reg (regedit.exe /s
MyRegKey.reg)

Its not a permanent solution, but it will work

Crouchie1998
BA (HONS) MCP MCSE

 

[Dave Patrick]

You might want to restore the system hive to a know good previous state.

You can replace registry hives from within the recovery console.

You can try using the most recent backup found in;
%windir%\repair\regback

or use the original-as-installed system hive from;
%windir%\repair\system
to
%windir%\system32\config\system
You'll need to reinstall the device drivers for any hardware added since the
original OS install.

To start the Recovery Console, start the computer from the Windows 2000
Setup CD or the Windows 2000 Setup floppy disks. If you do not have Setup
floppy disks and your computer cannot start from the Windows 2000 Setup CD,
use another Windows 2000-based computer to create the Setup floppy disks.
Press ENTER at the "Setup Notification" screen. Press R to repair a Windows
2000 installation, and then press C to use the Recovery Console. The
Recovery Console then prompts you for the administrator password. If you do
not have the correct password, Recovery Console does not allow access to the
computer. If an incorrect password is entered three times, the Recovery
Console quits and restarts the computer. Note If the registry is corrupted
or missing or no valid installations are found, the Recovery Console starts
in the root of the startup volume without requiring a password. You cannot
access any folders, but you can carry out commands such as chkdsk, fixboot,
and fixmbr for limited disk repairs. Once the password has been validated,
you have full access to the Recovery Console, but limited access to the hard
disk. You can only access the following folders on your computer: drive
root, %systemroot% or %windir%

You can also try an in-place upgrade.

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q292/1/75.ASP

What an In-Place Windows 2000 Upgrade Changes and What It Does Not Change
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306952

Be sure to apply these to your repair install before connecting to any
network.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
|
| Dave,
|
| Ouch!! And I am now officially way out of my knowledge comfort zone!
|
| I did some searches at MSDN on damaged subkeys and did not find anything
| that was relevant.
|
| The obvious questions are:
|
| 1) Is this a problem? If so how big?
|
| 2) How do I go about repairing this?
|
| 3) Is it likely there are other damaged service subkeys? If so, what is
| the best course of action?
|
|
| Any references you can point me to or good keywords for MSDN searches will
| be GREATLY appreciated!
|
| Thanks for all the help!!
|
| Don

 

[Don]

Dave,

Maybe double rebooting is not such a bad deal after all! As I got the
details of the registry mod from my predecessor, this problem has been going
on for quite some time so I do not have a whole lot of confidence in the
backup registry being any better. My main concern being driver
re-installation and downtime. Seems like in this situation leaving well
enough is the preferred course, but I am putting your notes into the system
log book for future reference.

Thanks for all the insight and details!

Don

You might want to restore the system hive to a know good previous state.

You can replace registry hives from within the recovery console.

You can try using the most recent backup found in;
%windir%\repair\regback

or use the original-as-installed system hive from;
%windir%\repair\system
to
%windir%\system32\config\system
You'll need to reinstall the device drivers for any hardware added since the
original OS install.

To start the Recovery Console, start the computer from the Windows 2000
Setup CD or the Windows 2000 Setup floppy disks. If you do not have Setup
floppy disks and your computer cannot start from the Windows 2000 Setup CD,
use another Windows 2000-based computer to create the Setup floppy disks.
Press ENTER at the "Setup Notification" screen. Press R to repair a Windows
2000 installation, and then press C to use the Recovery Console. The
Recovery Console then prompts you for the administrator password. If you do
not have the correct password, Recovery Console does not allow access to the
computer. If an incorrect password is entered three times, the Recovery
Console quits and restarts the computer. Note If the registry is corrupted
or missing or no valid installations are found, the Recovery Console starts
in the root of the startup volume without requiring a password. You cannot
access any folders, but you can carry out commands such as chkdsk, fixboot,
and fixmbr for limited disk repairs. Once the password has been validated,
you have full access to the Recovery Console, but limited access to the hard
disk. You can only access the following folders on your computer: drive
root, %systemroot% or %windir%

You can also try an in-place upgrade.

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q292/1/75.ASP

What an In-Place Windows 2000 Upgrade Changes and What It Does Not Change
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306952

Be sure to apply these to your repair install before connecting to any
network.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
|
| Dave,
|
| Ouch!! And I am now officially way out of my knowledge comfort zone!
|
| I did some searches at MSDN on damaged subkeys and did not find anything
| that was relevant.
|
| The obvious questions are:
|
| 1) Is this a problem? If so how big?
|
| 2) How do I go about repairing this?
|
| 3) Is it likely there are other damaged service subkeys? If so, what is
| the best course of action?
|
|
| Any references you can point me to or good keywords for MSDN searches will
| be GREATLY appreciated!
|
| Thanks for all the help!!
|
| Don

 

[Don]

Crouchie1998,

Thanks for the suggestion!

Don