Liscenece transfer?

[Guest]

Currently I run 2 systems which are networked (1xWinXP Pro and 1xW2k Pro).
Q. If I upgrade XP to Vista and it has validated my version of windows can I
then use my validated copy of XP Pro to subsequently upgrade my W2k to WinXP

 

[Richard Urban]

NO!

When you upgrade WinXP to Vista, the XP license is subsumed into the Vista
upgrade. At that point the XP license can not be used on another computer.

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[MICHAEL]

* Richard Urban:

NO!

When you upgrade WinXP to Vista, the XP license is subsumed into the Vista
upgrade. At that point the XP license can not be used on another computer.

YES! Well, maybe.

Depends. If he buys the full retail version, he can.

Many times when folks say "upgrade" they don't
necessarily mean they are buying the "upgrade version".
The just may mean they are upgrading the OS.


-Michael

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Q. If I upgrade XP to Vista and it has validated my version of windows can I
then use my validated copy of XP Pro to subsequently upgrade my W2k to WinXP?

A. No.

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Currently I run 2 systems which are networked (1xWinXP Pro and 1xW2k Pro).
Q. If I upgrade XP to Vista and it has validated my version of windows can I
then use my validated copy of XP Pro to subsequently upgrade my W2k to WinXP

 

[Richard Urban]

Yes, but until the O/P says otherwise, I will assume that he meant what he
said.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[mikeyhsd]

if you do an ACTUAL upgrade of the XP to Vista, in the process it eats your xp license. so answer would be NO.


to get around it, you can use UPGRADE media to do a clean install and still retain your xp license.
which would then allow you to upgrade/install fresh on to the w2000 system.


how to use upgrade media for clean install

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932



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Currently I run 2 systems which are networked (1xWinXP Pro and 1xW2k Pro).
Q. If I upgrade XP to Vista and it has validated my version of windows can I
then use my validated copy of XP Pro to subsequently upgrade my W2k to WinXP

 

[Peter Foldes]

Only if your XP Pro is a full Retail version. If it is an OEM or Upgrade version you are not able to.

 

[Rock]

Currently I run 2 systems which are networked (1xWinXP Pro and 1xW2k Pro).
Q. If I upgrade XP to Vista and it has validated my version of windows can
I
then use my validated copy of XP Pro to subsequently upgrade my W2k to
WinXP

There are two issues here. First, if you use an upgrade version of Vista,
the XP license is subsumed into the Vista license, and cannot be installed
separately. It's one or the other.

You can use a full retail version of Vista to do the upgrade, or use an OEM
version of Vista to do a clean install of Vista, which keeps the XP license
available.

Second is the XP license OEM or retail. If OEM, by the license it cannot be
moved do a different computer. If retail, then yes, and the above applies.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

if you do an ACTUAL upgrade of the XP to Vista, in the process it eats your xp license. so answer would be NO.

Correct, assuming an in-place upgrade using an Upgrade license.

to get around it, you can use UPGRADE media to do a clean install and still retain your xp license.

This, of course, is a deliberate lie. Any time one uses an Upgrade
license, there must be an earlier, qualifying OS, whose license is
subsumed by the upgrade process.

which would then allow you to upgrade/install fresh on to the w2000 system.

Wrong! Why do you tell these lies? Why do you refuse to read the
Upgrade EULA?



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[MICHAEL]

* Bruce Chambers:

Correct, assuming an in-place upgrade using an Upgrade license.




This, of course, is a deliberate lie. Any time one uses an Upgrade
license, there must be an earlier, qualifying OS, whose license is
subsumed by the upgrade process.

Wrong! Why do you tell these lies? Why do you refuse to read the
Upgrade EULA?

What Mikey describes is *not* a lie. However, using the prior OS that
was upgraded to Vista afterwards, *is* a violation of the EULA.

Did you know that Vista Beta 2 and up until RC1 also qualifies
as an upgradeable OS? Meaning, a user could install one of
those Vista betas, buy the cheaper Vista upgrade version and install
it. That is per policy as Microsoft recently announced.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/preview.mspx
To install the final version of Windows Vista on any of these pre-release versions of Windows
Vista, you may purchase the desired Windows Vista Upgrade. The Windows Vista Upgrade must be
the same language version as the pre-release version you are replacing.


-Michael

 

[Bruce Chambers]

* Bruce Chambers:


What Mikey describes is *not* a lie. However, using the prior OS that
was upgraded to Vista afterwards, *is* a violation of the EULA.

It is a lie, because it does violate the EULA.

Did you know that Vista Beta 2 and up until RC1 also qualifies
as an upgradeable OS?

Sure, but that's not relevant to the discussion at hand, is it?



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[...winston]

That statement should read 'up until RC2' and 'buy the cheaper Vista *Ultimate* upgrade version
- It also applies to the post RC2 pre-RTM 6.0.5840 which was available at the Windows/Office Launch Event which did not expire but is now not capable of Windows, Vista Ultimate, or Windows Defender updates.

Unfortunately, none of which will help the op who has XP and W2K.
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:
: Did you know that Vista Beta 2 and up until RC1 also qualifies
: as an upgradeable OS? Meaning, a user could install one of
: those Vista betas, buy the cheaper Vista upgrade version and install
: it. That is per policy as Microsoft recently announced.
:
: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/preview.mspx
: To install the final version of Windows Vista on any of these pre-release versions of Windows
: Vista, you may purchase the desired Windows Vista Upgrade. The Windows Vista Upgrade must be
: the same language version as the pre-release version you are replacing.
:
:
: -Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

* Bruce Chambers:

It is a lie, because it does violate the EULA.

Mikey never said if it did or not violate the EULA, dingleberry.

What he said *can* be done. It *may not* be done according to
the EULA. That's why Mikey said "to get around it". Got it? Good.

Sure, but that's not relevant to the discussion at hand, is it?

It very well could be, if one was to think about it.
Not your forte, obviously.

Figure it out.


-Michael

 

[Guest]

Yes, but until the O/P says otherwise, I will assume that he meant what he
said.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Yes the installation would be the "Upgrade Version", not the "Full Retail".

 

[Guest]

There are two issues here. First, if you use an upgrade version of Vista,
the XP license is subsumed into the Vista license, and cannot be installed
separately. It's one or the other.

You can use a full retail version of Vista to do the upgrade, or use an OEM
version of Vista to do a clean install of Vista, which keeps the XP license
available.

Second is the XP license OEM or retail. If OEM, by the license it cannot be
moved do a different computer. If retail, then yes, and the above applies.

 

[Rock]

You're welcome.