Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux& Windows)

[karthikbalaguru]

Hi,
I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications.
But, the computer currently has only
Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
USB stick !!

I am following the below steps for
Windows XP from USB stick -
http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
(Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)

But,
I understand that by the above method
we can have the Windows XP booted
up from the USB Stick and Windows
XP will be using entire RAM :-(

But, i would like to have Linux also !
Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
simulataneously so that i can switch
between Linux & Windows ?

Any ideas ?

Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Hi,
I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications.
But, the computer currently has only
Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
USB stick !!

I am following the below steps for
Windows XP from USB stick -
http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
(Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)

But,
I understand that by the above method
we can have the Windows XP booted
up from the USB Stick and Windows
XP will be using entire RAM :-(

But, i would like to have Linux also !
Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
simulataneously so that i can switch
between Linux & Windows ?

Any ideas ?

Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.

 

[Rich Webb]

Hi,
I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications. [snippety snip]
Any ideas ?

Wine. Or at least, a mention that the current Wine release was tried and
didn't work for the particular app(s). It's not 100% but I've been
surprised at some of the apps that it does support.

 

[Henning]

Hi,
I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications.
But, the computer currently has only
Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
USB stick !!

I am following the below steps for
Windows XP from USB stick -
http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
(Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)

But,
I understand that by the above method
we can have the Windows XP booted
up from the USB Stick and Windows
XP will be using entire RAM :-(

But, i would like to have Linux also !
Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
simulataneously so that i can switch
between Linux & Windows ?

Any ideas ?

Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru

Install Xp in VirtualBox?

/Henning

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Hi,
I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications. [snippety snip]
Any ideas ?

Wine. Or at least, a mention that the current Wine release was tried and
didn't work for the particular app(s). It's not 100% but I've been
surprised at some of the apps that it does support.

wine works for about 1% of apps, badly

VMware or virtual box is a lot better.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.

So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications.
But, the computer currently has only
Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
USB stick !!

I am following the below steps for
Windows XP from USB stick -
http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
(Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)

But,
I understand that by the above method
we can have the Windows XP booted
up from the USB Stick and Windows
XP will be using entire RAM :-(

But, i would like to have Linux also !
Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
simulataneously so that i can switch
between Linux & Windows ?

Any ideas ?

Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.

So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.

Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free. VMware Workstation
will cost you.

Either work fantastically. Either is better than dual-booting/booting from
USB/booting from CD or DVD/using something like WINE, IMHO.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free. VMware Workstation
will cost you.

Yes.

Either work fantastically. Either is better than dual-booting/booting from
USB/booting from CD or DVD/using something like WINE, IMHO.

Fantastic? No. screen and cursors is a tad slow, and networking is a
fair bit slower than a native windows.

But its good enough for what I do. CAD work mainly.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications.
But, the computer currently has only
Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
USB stick !!

I am following the below steps for
Windows XP from USB stick -
http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
(Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)

But,
I understand that by the above method
we can have the Windows XP booted
up from the USB Stick and Windows
XP will be using entire RAM :-(

But, i would like to have Linux also !
Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
simulataneously so that i can switch
between Linux & Windows ?

Any ideas ?

Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.

So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.

Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free. VMware
Workstation will cost you.

Either work fantastically. Either is better than
dual-booting/booting from USB/booting from CD or DVD/using
something like WINE, IMHO.

Yes.

Fantastic? No. screen and cursors is a tad slow, and networking is a
fair bit slower than a native windows.

But its good enough for what I do. CAD work mainly.

Well - on my quad core processor system with 8GB memory and 64-bit base OS -
it works great with Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 virtual
machines... Guess it is all relative.

If the screen and cursors are slow? Sounds like a driver issue (guest
additions for virtualbox and vmware tools for vmware usually help those
things) or lack of actual physical resources (memory/processor.)

 

[Dombo]

Shenan Stanley schreef:

Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free. VMware Workstation
will cost you.

Either work fantastically.

Provided you have plenty of RAM memory (and a Windows XP license). If
you have, a virtual machine is definitely the way to go.

 

[Kevin John Panzke]

TRY DUAL BOOTING BETWEEN WINDOWS XP AND UBUNTU 9.10 USING WUBI.EXE!

 

[Rich Webb]

Hi,
I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications. [snippety snip]
Any ideas ?

Wine. Or at least, a mention that the current Wine release was tried and
didn't work for the particular app(s). It's not 100% but I've been
surprised at some of the apps that it does support.

wine works for about 1% of apps, badly

VMware or virtual box is a lot better.

Probably true. But I'd like to see a citation for that 1%, badly,
assertion.

 

[Henning]

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:23:16 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru

Hi,
I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications.
[snippety snip]
Any ideas ?

Wine. Or at least, a mention that the current Wine release was tried and
didn't work for the particular app(s). It's not 100% but I've been
surprised at some of the apps that it does support.

wine works for about 1% of apps, badly

VMware or virtual box is a lot better.

Probably true. But I'd like to see a citation for that 1%, badly,
assertion.

Try running the dotnet flamework.

/Henning

 

[Dave Nadler]

Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free.  VMware Workstation
will cost you.

Either work fantastically.  Either is better than dual-booting/booting from
USB/booting from CD or DVD/using something like WINE, IMHO.

Can any of you guys recommend a utility to snapshot an existing XP
machine into a VM image, where the utility is run on the existing XP
machine ?

Thanks in advance,
Best Regards, Dave

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Can any of you guys recommend a utility to snapshot an existing XP
machine into a VM image, where the utility is run on the existing XP
machine ?

VMware has a converter (p2v, etc) that does a good job.
http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/get.html

You can also utilize your favorite imaging utility to do it (I've used
several in the past to make a drive image and apply it to a virtual machine
drive.)

 

[David W. Hodgins]

Can any of you guys recommend a utility to snapshot an existing XP
machine into a VM image, where the utility is run on the existing XP
machine ?

I doubt that can be done, as a full copy of the drive is required. You
cannot make a useful copy of the drive while it's being updated by the
running xp system.

If you provide more info on what you are trying to accomplish, and what
hardware you have available, perhaps another solution can be found.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I doubt that can be done, as a full copy of the drive is required. You
cannot make a useful copy of the drive while it's being updated
by the running xp system.

If you provide more info on what you are trying to accomplish, and
what hardware you have available, perhaps another solution can be
found.

VMware converter can do it and if you have the right setup - remotely. ;-)

 

[Dave Nadler]

I doubt that can be done, as a full copy of the drive is required.  You
cannot make a useful copy of the drive while it's being updated by the
running xp system.

If you provide more info on what you are trying to accomplish, and what
hardware you have available, perhaps another solution can be found.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

There are a number of utilities that can do this.
I was hoping for recommendations. I have Acronis
(which can do this) but it wants a license for each
machine. Other utilities don't seem to be reliable...
I'm going to try

Best Regards, Dave

a license for each machine

 

[Dave Nadler]

I doubt that can be done, as a full copy of the drive is required.  You
cannot make a useful copy of the drive while it's being updated by the
running xp system.

If you provide more info on what you are trying to accomplish, and what
hardware you have available, perhaps another solution can be found.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Sorry, keyboard misfire...

There are a number of utilities that can do this.
I was hoping for recommendations. I have Acronis
(which can do this) but it wants a license for each
machine. Other utilities don't seem to be reliable...

I'm going to try VMconverter and qemu-img, we'll see.

Best Regards, Dave

 

[karthikbalaguru]

Bochs, Virtualbox, QEMU, VMWare ... all can run
Windows in emulation under Linux ... Wine is also
a solution.

A very big list is present in the below link-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines
It contains GPL versions also.

Lot of flavours :-(,
But, which is the best freely available platform
virtual machine ?

Karthik Balaguru