Limited User cannot use MS Word

G

Guest

I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the kids).
When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast switching) the
limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is going to install or
re-install (even though it is already installed), then Word will open but so
does an error message which says "...no longer functioning properly. Run
Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no avail. I even uninstalled MS Office
and completely reinstalled it, also to no avail. Word is NOT open under the
regular user when I am trying all of this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have them
logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Installing and running software in Windows XP
http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm

[[This page is an attempt to explain how software should be installed and
used in a Windows XP system.

Subjects include:
1. Installing software for everybody
2. Running software in limited user accounts
3. Restricting access to some programs
4. FAQ's and issues ]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
 
G

Guest

Hi Wes:

No, it did not help. Firstly, I am presuming that I am making (attempting
to) these changes whilst logged in as a full user. Actually, it did not seem
to matter much anyway.

I tried the cut & paste of short cuts as listed in suggestion 1 in the
document http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm. This did not help.

I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and interestingly,
in neither the full user nor the limited user were the options such as "run
with different credentials in bold but rather were in grayout. This applies
to all MS Office applications though not other applications.

I tried suggestion 3) giving the limited user the ability to read, execute
and write in the Program Files folders. No luck.

Now, one other interesting thing I just found out from my oldest daughter.
She went to use MS Word signed on as the limited user for the first time
after it was set up and it asked her to provide some information first such
as the Name and initials. I was not around so she just typed in her name
like they ask at school. (She could not remember exactly what the window was
titled.) However now when I run an Office programme, and then check
Help/About, in the full user mode, it is in my name (as it should be). When
I check an Office programme whilst logged in as a Limited user then
Help/About, it lists the information she typed in (her name & initials). The
product id for both is the same. Could this be causing the problem?

One note, she did this entry of her name and initials before I uninstalled
MS Office and reinstalled it. (see original posting) Somehow that particular
information was not deleted in the uninstall and showed up again once I had
reinstalled it.

Any other suggestions? I don't mind uninstalling and reinstalling again,
but I need to know how to ensure that all settings are deleted. Then I can
start over.

Thanks.

Nice document though from rickrogers.org! I need things simple. :)

Wesley Vogel said:
Installing and running software in Windows XP
http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm

[[This page is an attempt to explain how software should be installed and
used in a Windows XP system.

Subjects include:
1. Installing software for everybody
2. Running software in limited user accounts
3. Restricting access to some programs
4. FAQ's and issues ]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
VMH said:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the
kids). When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast
switching) the limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is
going to install or re-install (even though it is already installed),
then Word will open but so does an error message which says "...no longer
functioning properly. Run Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no avail. I
even uninstalled MS Office and completely reinstalled it, also to no
avail. Word is NOT open under the regular user when I am trying all of
this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have
them logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
W

Wesley Vogel

I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly, in neither the full user nor the limited user were the
options such as "run with different credentials in bold but rather were
in grayout. This applies to all MS Office applications though not other
applications.

You can also use Run As. Right click winword.exe or whatever MS Word
shortcut your trying to use. Run As should be right below Open.

If Run As is grayed out, press and hold down the SHIFT key while you
right-click the program icon and then click Run as.

If Run as fails, the Secondary Logon service may not be running. This may
also apply for the Advanced Properties, I do not know for sure.

HOW TO: Enable and Use the "Run As" Command When Running Programs in Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294676

HOW TO: Use the RUN AS Command to Start a Program as an Administrator in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305780



--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
VMH said:
Hi Wes:

No, it did not help. Firstly, I am presuming that I am making (attempting
to) these changes whilst logged in as a full user. Actually, it did not
seem to matter much anyway.

I tried the cut & paste of short cuts as listed in suggestion 1 in the
document http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm. This did not help.

I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly, in neither the full user nor the limited user were the
options such as "run with different credentials in bold but rather were
in grayout. This applies to all MS Office applications though not other
applications.

I tried suggestion 3) giving the limited user the ability to read, execute
and write in the Program Files folders. No luck.

Now, one other interesting thing I just found out from my oldest daughter.
She went to use MS Word signed on as the limited user for the first time
after it was set up and it asked her to provide some information first
such as the Name and initials. I was not around so she just typed in her
name like they ask at school. (She could not remember exactly what the
window was titled.) However now when I run an Office programme, and then
check Help/About, in the full user mode, it is in my name (as it should
be). When I check an Office programme whilst logged in as a Limited user
then Help/About, it lists the information she typed in (her name &
initials). The product id for both is the same. Could this be causing
the problem?

One note, she did this entry of her name and initials before I uninstalled
MS Office and reinstalled it. (see original posting) Somehow that
particular information was not deleted in the uninstall and showed up
again once I had reinstalled it.

Any other suggestions? I don't mind uninstalling and reinstalling again,
but I need to know how to ensure that all settings are deleted. Then I
can start over.

Thanks.

Nice document though from rickrogers.org! I need things simple. :)

Wesley Vogel said:
Installing and running software in Windows XP
http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm

[[This page is an attempt to explain how software should be installed and
used in a Windows XP system.

Subjects include:
1. Installing software for everybody
2. Running software in limited user accounts
3. Restricting access to some programs
4. FAQ's and issues ]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
VMH said:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the
kids). When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast
switching) the limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is
going to install or re-install (even though it is already installed),
then Word will open but so does an error message which says "...no
longer functioning properly. Run Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no
avail. I even uninstalled MS Office and completely reinstalled it,
also to no avail. Word is NOT open under the regular user when I am
trying all of this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have
them logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
D

ditrt

VMH said:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the kids).
When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast switching) the
limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is going to install or
re-install (even though it is already installed), then Word will open but so
does an error message which says "...no longer functioning properly. Run
Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no avail. I even uninstalled MS Office
and completely reinstalled it, also to no avail. Word is NOT open under the
regular user when I am trying all of this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have them
logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
D

ditrt

VMH said:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the kids).
When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast switching) the
limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is going to install or
re-install (even though it is already installed), then Word will open but so
does an error message which says "...no longer functioning properly. Run
Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no avail. I even uninstalled MS Office
and completely reinstalled it, also to no avail. Word is NOT open under the
regular user when I am trying all of this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have them
logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
D

ditrt

VMH said:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the kids).
When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast switching) the
limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is going to install or
re-install (even though it is already installed), then Word will open but so
does an error message which says "...no longer functioning properly. Run
Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no avail. I even uninstalled MS Office
and completely reinstalled it, also to no avail. Word is NOT open under the
regular user when I am trying all of this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have them
logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance

Minimally, where the converse (that you are now wrestling with) does
not work, you might try installing your version of Word (and maybe the
entire MS Office ensemble) directly under the "limited user" account,
which you might possibly then find yourself able to access from a
regular user account. (I don't guarantee this as a bulletproof
solution.)
 
R

Rick Rogers

Hi,

Run the office cleanup tool after uninstalling, then reinstall:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290301

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

VMH said:
Hi Wes:

No, it did not help. Firstly, I am presuming that I am making (attempting
to) these changes whilst logged in as a full user. Actually, it did not
seem
to matter much anyway.

I tried the cut & paste of short cuts as listed in suggestion 1 in the
document http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm. This did not help.

I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly,
in neither the full user nor the limited user were the options such as
"run
with different credentials in bold but rather were in grayout. This
applies
to all MS Office applications though not other applications.

I tried suggestion 3) giving the limited user the ability to read, execute
and write in the Program Files folders. No luck.

Now, one other interesting thing I just found out from my oldest daughter.
She went to use MS Word signed on as the limited user for the first time
after it was set up and it asked her to provide some information first
such
as the Name and initials. I was not around so she just typed in her name
like they ask at school. (She could not remember exactly what the window
was
titled.) However now when I run an Office programme, and then check
Help/About, in the full user mode, it is in my name (as it should be).
When
I check an Office programme whilst logged in as a Limited user then
Help/About, it lists the information she typed in (her name & initials).
The
product id for both is the same. Could this be causing the problem?

One note, she did this entry of her name and initials before I uninstalled
MS Office and reinstalled it. (see original posting) Somehow that
particular
information was not deleted in the uninstall and showed up again once I
had
reinstalled it.

Any other suggestions? I don't mind uninstalling and reinstalling again,
but I need to know how to ensure that all settings are deleted. Then I
can
start over.

Thanks.

Nice document though from rickrogers.org! I need things simple. :)

Wesley Vogel said:
Installing and running software in Windows XP
http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm

[[This page is an attempt to explain how software should be installed and
used in a Windows XP system.

Subjects include:
1. Installing software for everybody
2. Running software in limited user accounts
3. Restricting access to some programs
4. FAQ's and issues ]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
VMH said:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the
kids). When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast
switching) the limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is
going to install or re-install (even though it is already installed),
then Word will open but so does an error message which says "...no
longer
functioning properly. Run Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no avail.
I
even uninstalled MS Office and completely reinstalled it, also to no
avail. Word is NOT open under the regular user when I am trying all of
this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have
them logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
G

Guest

Hi: Shift + Right Click provides Run As and I can sign on as me whilst
logged on as the limited user and Word works just fine. However, one must do
this each time one wishes to open Word whilst logged on as the limited user.
I did not want to have to run over to the computer each time one of the kids
needs to use Word to do homework and Run As me.

Anything more permanent?

Thanks
Vela

Wesley Vogel said:
I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly, in neither the full user nor the limited user were the
options such as "run with different credentials in bold but rather were
in grayout. This applies to all MS Office applications though not other
applications.

You can also use Run As. Right click winword.exe or whatever MS Word
shortcut your trying to use. Run As should be right below Open.

If Run As is grayed out, press and hold down the SHIFT key while you
right-click the program icon and then click Run as.

If Run as fails, the Secondary Logon service may not be running. This may
also apply for the Advanced Properties, I do not know for sure.

HOW TO: Enable and Use the "Run As" Command When Running Programs in Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294676

HOW TO: Use the RUN AS Command to Start a Program as an Administrator in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305780



--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
VMH said:
Hi Wes:

No, it did not help. Firstly, I am presuming that I am making (attempting
to) these changes whilst logged in as a full user. Actually, it did not
seem to matter much anyway.

I tried the cut & paste of short cuts as listed in suggestion 1 in the
document http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm. This did not help.

I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly, in neither the full user nor the limited user were the
options such as "run with different credentials in bold but rather were
in grayout. This applies to all MS Office applications though not other
applications.

I tried suggestion 3) giving the limited user the ability to read, execute
and write in the Program Files folders. No luck.

Now, one other interesting thing I just found out from my oldest daughter.
She went to use MS Word signed on as the limited user for the first time
after it was set up and it asked her to provide some information first
such as the Name and initials. I was not around so she just typed in her
name like they ask at school. (She could not remember exactly what the
window was titled.) However now when I run an Office programme, and then
check Help/About, in the full user mode, it is in my name (as it should
be). When I check an Office programme whilst logged in as a Limited user
then Help/About, it lists the information she typed in (her name &
initials). The product id for both is the same. Could this be causing
the problem?

One note, she did this entry of her name and initials before I uninstalled
MS Office and reinstalled it. (see original posting) Somehow that
particular information was not deleted in the uninstall and showed up
again once I had reinstalled it.

Any other suggestions? I don't mind uninstalling and reinstalling again,
but I need to know how to ensure that all settings are deleted. Then I
can start over.

Thanks.

Nice document though from rickrogers.org! I need things simple. :)

Wesley Vogel said:
Installing and running software in Windows XP
http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm

[[This page is an attempt to explain how software should be installed and
used in a Windows XP system.

Subjects include:
1. Installing software for everybody
2. Running software in limited user accounts
3. Restricting access to some programs
4. FAQ's and issues ]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In VMH <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the
kids). When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast
switching) the limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is
going to install or re-install (even though it is already installed),
then Word will open but so does an error message which says "...no
longer functioning properly. Run Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no
avail. I even uninstalled MS Office and completely reinstalled it,
also to no avail. Word is NOT open under the regular user when I am
trying all of this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have
them logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
G

Guest

Hello Rick:

I uninstalled MS Office and downloaded and installed the Office Cleanup
Tool. However, when it gives me a list of things that I can remove, I do not
recognize most of them and the ones I do are not programmes having anything
to do with MS Office. I am concerned about deleting something I should not
be deleting.

The ??? list is comprised of
CCHelp, CCServe
A lot of ESS files of various types
3 HLP files
J2SE
KSU
Notifier
OfotoXmi
OTtBP files
PCDLNCH
SFR SFR2
VCamCen
VPrintol
Web Fldrs XP

I know not everything uninstalled since there are still some icons on the
Start/Programs/Microsoft Applications even though those links doe not work.

I am not sure what to do next.

Thanks,
Vela


Rick Rogers said:
Hi,

Run the office cleanup tool after uninstalling, then reinstall:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290301

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

VMH said:
Hi Wes:

No, it did not help. Firstly, I am presuming that I am making (attempting
to) these changes whilst logged in as a full user. Actually, it did not
seem
to matter much anyway.

I tried the cut & paste of short cuts as listed in suggestion 1 in the
document http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm. This did not help.

I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly,
in neither the full user nor the limited user were the options such as
"run
with different credentials in bold but rather were in grayout. This
applies
to all MS Office applications though not other applications.

I tried suggestion 3) giving the limited user the ability to read, execute
and write in the Program Files folders. No luck.

Now, one other interesting thing I just found out from my oldest daughter.
She went to use MS Word signed on as the limited user for the first time
after it was set up and it asked her to provide some information first
such
as the Name and initials. I was not around so she just typed in her name
like they ask at school. (She could not remember exactly what the window
was
titled.) However now when I run an Office programme, and then check
Help/About, in the full user mode, it is in my name (as it should be).
When
I check an Office programme whilst logged in as a Limited user then
Help/About, it lists the information she typed in (her name & initials).
The
product id for both is the same. Could this be causing the problem?

One note, she did this entry of her name and initials before I uninstalled
MS Office and reinstalled it. (see original posting) Somehow that
particular
information was not deleted in the uninstall and showed up again once I
had
reinstalled it.

Any other suggestions? I don't mind uninstalling and reinstalling again,
but I need to know how to ensure that all settings are deleted. Then I
can
start over.

Thanks.

Nice document though from rickrogers.org! I need things simple. :)

Wesley Vogel said:
Installing and running software in Windows XP
http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm

[[This page is an attempt to explain how software should be installed and
used in a Windows XP system.

Subjects include:
1. Installing software for everybody
2. Running software in limited user accounts
3. Restricting access to some programs
4. FAQ's and issues ]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In VMH <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the
kids). When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast
switching) the limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is
going to install or re-install (even though it is already installed),
then Word will open but so does an error message which says "...no
longer
functioning properly. Run Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no avail.
I
even uninstalled MS Office and completely reinstalled it, also to no
avail. Word is NOT open under the regular user when I am trying all of
this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have
them logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Vela,

See ditrt's post in this thread.

Ah, here it is....

Minimally, where the converse (that you are now wrestling with) does
not work, you might try installing your version of Word (and maybe the
entire MS Office ensemble) directly under the "limited user" account,
which you might possibly then find yourself able to access from a
regular user account. (I don't guarantee this as a bulletproof
solution.)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
VMH said:
Hi: Shift + Right Click provides Run As and I can sign on as me whilst
logged on as the limited user and Word works just fine. However, one
must do this each time one wishes to open Word whilst logged on as the
limited user. I did not want to have to run over to the computer each
time one of the kids needs to use Word to do homework and Run As me.

Anything more permanent?

Thanks
Vela

Wesley Vogel said:
I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly, in neither the full user nor the limited user were the
options such as "run with different credentials in bold but rather were
in grayout. This applies to all MS Office applications though not
other applications.

You can also use Run As. Right click winword.exe or whatever MS Word
shortcut your trying to use. Run As should be right below Open.

If Run As is grayed out, press and hold down the SHIFT key while you
right-click the program icon and then click Run as.

If Run as fails, the Secondary Logon service may not be running. This
may also apply for the Advanced Properties, I do not know for sure.

HOW TO: Enable and Use the "Run As" Command When Running Programs in
Windows http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294676

HOW TO: Use the RUN AS Command to Start a Program as an Administrator in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305780



--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
VMH said:
Hi Wes:

No, it did not help. Firstly, I am presuming that I am making
(attempting to) these changes whilst logged in as a full user.
Actually, it did not seem to matter much anyway.

I tried the cut & paste of short cuts as listed in suggestion 1 in the
document http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm. This did not help.

I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly, in neither the full user nor the limited user were the
options such as "run with different credentials in bold but rather were
in grayout. This applies to all MS Office applications though not
other applications.

I tried suggestion 3) giving the limited user the ability to read,
execute and write in the Program Files folders. No luck.

Now, one other interesting thing I just found out from my oldest
daughter. She went to use MS Word signed on as the limited user for the
first time after it was set up and it asked her to provide some
information first such as the Name and initials. I was not around so
she just typed in her name like they ask at school. (She could not
remember exactly what the window was titled.) However now when I run
an Office programme, and then check Help/About, in the full user mode,
it is in my name (as it should be). When I check an Office programme
whilst logged in as a Limited user then Help/About, it lists the
information she typed in (her name & initials). The product id for
both is the same. Could this be causing the problem?

One note, she did this entry of her name and initials before I
uninstalled MS Office and reinstalled it. (see original posting)
Somehow that particular information was not deleted in the uninstall
and showed up again once I had reinstalled it.

Any other suggestions? I don't mind uninstalling and reinstalling
again, but I need to know how to ensure that all settings are deleted.
Then I can start over.

Thanks.

Nice document though from rickrogers.org! I need things simple. :)

:

Installing and running software in Windows XP
http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm

[[This page is an attempt to explain how software should be installed
and used in a Windows XP system.

Subjects include:
1. Installing software for everybody
2. Running software in limited user accounts
3. Restricting access to some programs
4. FAQ's and issues ]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In VMH <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the
kids). When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast
switching) the limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is
going to install or re-install (even though it is already installed),
then Word will open but so does an error message which says "...no
longer functioning properly. Run Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no
avail. I even uninstalled MS Office and completely reinstalled it,
also to no avail. Word is NOT open under the regular user when I am
trying all of this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have
them logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
G

Guest

I did not think that the limited user had authorization to install software.
I know that they do not have authorization to un-install as I tried that.

Also, just as an aside. I did try uninstalling MS Office, then deleting the
limited user completely, re-install MS Office and created a new limited user.
Just to see if it had anything to do with that particular previous limited
user. Same issues.

Vela
 
G

Guest

Hi Wes:

I asked ditrt in reply to his email about installing under the limited user
about whether or not that was even possible since a limited user, by default
at least to my understanding, did not have permission to install software.

Anyway, I changed (whilst logged in as the administrator) the permissions
for the limited user on the Program Files folder to include Full permission.
I then logged in as the Limited User and tried to use the MS Office
programmes. No luck. Then I tried to install MS Office whilst logged in as
the Limited User (who still has full control over the Program Files folder)
however I received a response saying I could not install the software as the
administrator did not give me such permissions.

So it boils down to:
MS Office XP Version 2002 sp3 is installed (whilst logged on as the
administrator) but limited users cannot access the programmes without all
types of error messages.
I've changed permissions of the limited users to allow full control of
Program Files to no avail.
MS Office cannot be installed whilst logged in as the Limited User

I understand from MS that some programmes do not work with switching users
or limited users but I would think that MS Office XP would NOT be one of
them. I am at a loss.

:-(

Wesley Vogel said:
Vela,

See ditrt's post in this thread.

Ah, here it is....

Minimally, where the converse (that you are now wrestling with) does
not work, you might try installing your version of Word (and maybe the
entire MS Office ensemble) directly under the "limited user" account,
which you might possibly then find yourself able to access from a
regular user account. (I don't guarantee this as a bulletproof
solution.)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
VMH said:
Hi: Shift + Right Click provides Run As and I can sign on as me whilst
logged on as the limited user and Word works just fine. However, one
must do this each time one wishes to open Word whilst logged on as the
limited user. I did not want to have to run over to the computer each
time one of the kids needs to use Word to do homework and Run As me.

Anything more permanent?

Thanks
Vela

Wesley Vogel said:
I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly, in neither the full user nor the limited user were the
options such as "run with different credentials in bold but rather were
in grayout. This applies to all MS Office applications though not
other applications.

You can also use Run As. Right click winword.exe or whatever MS Word
shortcut your trying to use. Run As should be right below Open.

If Run As is grayed out, press and hold down the SHIFT key while you
right-click the program icon and then click Run as.

If Run as fails, the Secondary Logon service may not be running. This
may also apply for the Advanced Properties, I do not know for sure.

HOW TO: Enable and Use the "Run As" Command When Running Programs in
Windows http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294676

HOW TO: Use the RUN AS Command to Start a Program as an Administrator in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305780



--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In VMH <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wes:

No, it did not help. Firstly, I am presuming that I am making
(attempting to) these changes whilst logged in as a full user.
Actually, it did not seem to matter much anyway.

I tried the cut & paste of short cuts as listed in suggestion 1 in the
document http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm. This did not help.

I tried suggestion 2) (Right click, Properties/Advanced) and
interestingly, in neither the full user nor the limited user were the
options such as "run with different credentials in bold but rather were
in grayout. This applies to all MS Office applications though not
other applications.

I tried suggestion 3) giving the limited user the ability to read,
execute and write in the Program Files folders. No luck.

Now, one other interesting thing I just found out from my oldest
daughter. She went to use MS Word signed on as the limited user for the
first time after it was set up and it asked her to provide some
information first such as the Name and initials. I was not around so
she just typed in her name like they ask at school. (She could not
remember exactly what the window was titled.) However now when I run
an Office programme, and then check Help/About, in the full user mode,
it is in my name (as it should be). When I check an Office programme
whilst logged in as a Limited user then Help/About, it lists the
information she typed in (her name & initials). The product id for
both is the same. Could this be causing the problem?

One note, she did this entry of her name and initials before I
uninstalled MS Office and reinstalled it. (see original posting)
Somehow that particular information was not deleted in the uninstall
and showed up again once I had reinstalled it.

Any other suggestions? I don't mind uninstalling and reinstalling
again, but I need to know how to ensure that all settings are deleted.
Then I can start over.

Thanks.

Nice document though from rickrogers.org! I need things simple. :)

:

Installing and running software in Windows XP
http://www.rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm

[[This page is an attempt to explain how software should be installed
and used in a Windows XP system.

Subjects include:
1. Installing software for everybody
2. Running software in limited user accounts
3. Restricting access to some programs
4. FAQ's and issues ]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In VMH <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I have XP running. I have a regular user and a limited user (for the
kids). When logged on (regardless of the only log on or via fast
switching) the limited user cannot use Word. It appears that it is
going to install or re-install (even though it is already installed),
then Word will open but so does an error message which says "...no
longer functioning properly. Run Setup & Repair ". I tried that to no
avail. I even uninstalled MS Office and completely reinstalled it,
also to no avail. Word is NOT open under the regular user when I am
trying all of this.

Running: XP Pro Sp2 (all updates)
MS Word 2002 SP3

I need Word for the kids to use for homework and I do not want to have
them logged on as a full user!

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 

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