Limit program access for kids

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Is there a way to stop my kids from accessing certain programs on my computer
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[kurttrail]

Is there a way to stop my kids from accessing certain programs on my
computer L

Parent Guidance is more than suggested. It is required.

All you do by putting technological controls on them is to abdicate your
parental responsibility, and what kind of example is that showing your
kids?

And more than likely, your kids are now or will soon be much more
computer literate than you are, and they'll get around whatever you try
to do to stop them.

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[JT]

Obviously Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator doesn't have kids or he
wouldn't make such absurd statements. Without getting into parental
responsibilites etc. what this person was looking for was a solution to
their question not a lecture on child rearing, shame on you!
There are a number of software packages that allow you to control the amount
of time, when, what etc. I have used Enuff Pc which works really well. You
can search for a parental control software etc.

Hope this helps.
JT

 

[Alias]

Obviously Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator doesn't have kids or he
wouldn't make such absurd statements. Without getting into parental
responsibilites etc. what this person was looking for was a solution to
their question not a lecture on child rearing, shame on you!
There are a number of software packages that allow you to control the amount
of time, when, what etc. I have used Enuff Pc which works really well. You
can search for a parental control software etc.

Hope this helps.
JT

Using cat and mouse games with software programs to limit your
children's access to the Internet only reveals your failure as a parent.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Obviously Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator doesn't have kids or he
wouldn't make such absurd statements.

No, I don't. But I do help my sister raise my niece, so I do practice
what I preach.

Without getting into parental
responsibilites etc.

LOL! Why wouldn't you get into parental responsibilities? That's what
it is all about.

what this person was looking for was a solution
to their question not a lecture on child rearing, shame on you!

Shame on you! For completely ignoring parental responsibilities!

There are a number of software packages that allow you to control the
amount of time, when, what etc. I have used Enuff Pc which works
really well. You can search for a parental control software etc.

Just because someone makes a technological tools to help you ignore your
parental responsibility, doesn't mean you have to use them.

I feel sorry for your brats, learning to rely on emotionless
technological restraints rather than on their parents.



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[PaulFXH]

kurttrail escreveu:

Parent Guidance is more than suggested. It is required.

All you do by putting technological controls on them is to abdicate your
parental responsibility, and what kind of example is that showing your
kids?

And more than likely, your kids are now or will soon be much more
computer literate than you are, and they'll get around whatever you try
to do to stop them.

Forgive me but your logic seems alarmingly defeatist.
As an example, I know that (probably all) spyware programmers are
vastly more computer literate than I (and possibly most home computer
users) will ever be. But this doesn't mean I throw my hands in the air
and do nothing about spyware getting onto my machine.
I feel that had our ancestors adopted your advice during the evolution
of our species, we would all be still living in caves.
Paul

 

[JT]

Oh please already! Having raised "4 brats" that are well behaved, never
been in any trouble and are seeking college educations I am proud of my
parenting skills and the tools that I used to accomplish this. How nice
that you have a niece that you may not be responsible for 24/7. You do not
have an appreciation for what children can accomplish with their own
ingenuity. Unfortunately not all parents can hover over their children 24/7
and sometimes all the parental examples/teachings cannot curb the natural
curiosity/sneakiness of kids. Maybe this parent doesn't have the same
opportunities as you, being home 24/7 to monitor their child's activities.
Wanting a "tool" to control software and internet activity is very
responsible and has absolutely nothing to do with the parenting
skills/responsibilities except to a purest! Join the real world of working
parents struggling to provide for their families etc.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Is there a way to stop my kids from accessing certain programs on my computer
L

HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279783

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q308418

HOW TO Use the Internet Explorer 6 Content Advisor to Control Access
to Web Sites in Internet Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310401

Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit for Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sharedaccess/default.mspx

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

For some requirements, you may find it easier to invest in a
3rd-party solution, such as NetNanny or CyberPatrol.

You need to be aware, however, that *NO* technical or software
solution is fool-proof, and _none_ can ever adequately take the place of
live adult supervision. If you cannot trust your children to
safely/properly use the computer without supervision, you may have to
consider limiting their access to it.



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[Bruce Chambers]

Obviously Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator doesn't have kids or he
wouldn't make such absurd statements. Without getting into parental
responsibilites etc. what this person was looking for was a solution to
their question not a lecture on child rearing, shame on you!
There are a number of software packages that allow you to control the amount
of time, when, what etc. I have used Enuff Pc which works really well. You
can search for a parental control software etc.

There are software tools that help, but they're no panacea; anyone who
relies entirely upon such measures either is not living in a normal
state of reality, or doesn't really care to be bothered.

I don't often agree with Kurt, but on this issue, he's pretty much dead
on. It's you, if anyone, who clearly have no experience rearing
children, based upon your post. There is *no* technological tool that
cannot be by-passed by a clever and determined individual; there is no
technological substitute for parental supervision. Kurt is right to
tell the OP that there is no completely technical solution.

Shame on you for claiming otherwise.


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[Alias]

There are software tools that help, but they're no panacea; anyone
who relies entirely upon such measures either is not living in a normal
state of reality, or doesn't really care to be bothered.

I don't often agree with Kurt, but on this issue, he's pretty much
dead on. It's you, if anyone, who clearly have no experience rearing
children, based upon your post. There is *no* technological tool that
cannot be by-passed by a clever and determined individual; there is no
technological substitute for parental supervision. Kurt is right to
tell the OP that there is no completely technical solution.

Shame on you for claiming otherwise.

Actually, Deep Freeze would do a lot to make sure the children don't
mess up the computer but cat and mouse games with children is sooooooooo
childish.

Alias

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Oh please already! Having raised "4 brats" that are well behaved, never
been in any trouble and are seeking college educations I am proud of my
parenting skills and the tools that I used to accomplish this.

And yet, the rest of the post admits your failure. You admit that your
children *will* misbehave unless constantly monitored and/or restrained
by technological tools. Never heard of "discipline?" Properly applied,
at an early age, it pretty much obviates the need for 24/7 monitoring or
technological restraint.

How nice
that you have a niece that you may not be responsible for 24/7. You do not
have an appreciation for what children can accomplish with their own
ingenuity. Unfortunately not all parents can hover over their children 24/7
and sometimes all the parental examples/teachings cannot curb the natural
curiosity/sneakiness of kids.

Nor does a good parent need to "hover." Instead, one teaches the
children the differences between right and wrong, the expected standard
of behavior, and then consequences of making the wrong decisions. Then,
the children will supervise themselves.

Maybe this parent doesn't have the same
opportunities as you, being home 24/7 to monitor their child's activities.
Wanting a "tool" to control software and internet activity is very
responsible and has absolutely nothing to do with the parenting
skills/responsibilities except to a purest! Join the real world of working
parents struggling to provide for their families etc.

Been there, done that: as a single parent of a very bright teenager.
Sure it's tough, but I didn't turn my responsibilities over to a
software program, the mores of whose maker I don't know.


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[Bruce Chambers]

Forgive me but your logic seems alarmingly defeatist.
As an example, I know that (probably all) spyware programmers are
vastly more computer literate than I (and possibly most home computer
users) will ever be. But this doesn't mean I throw my hands in the air
and do nothing about spyware getting onto my machine.

You misunderstand, completely. Kurt isn't advising the OP to
surrender, just the opposite. To Kurt's and others' (including mine --
Kurt, have you seen a weather report from Hell? That's twice within the
same week we've been mostly in agreement.) way of thinking, it's the
parent who has turned his supervisory role over to a software product
who has "given up."

Let's look at your example. Sure, there are software tools to *help*
protect your PC from malware, but not of them can predict and prevent
future threats with 100% accuracy; the most important component of any
computer security policy is - and always will be - a knowledgeable and
pro-active computer user.

I feel that had our ancestors adopted your advice during the evolution
of our species, we would all be still living in caves.

Not at all. But following your advice, we'd still be there waiting for
someone else to scare off the predators and invent the wheel for for us.


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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
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[kurttrail]

Oh please already! Having raised "4 brats" that are well behaved,
never been in any trouble and are seeking college educations I am
proud of my parenting skills and the tools that I used to accomplish
this. How nice that you have a niece that you may not be responsible
for 24/7. You do not have an appreciation for what children can
accomplish with their own ingenuity.

Oh yes I do! Didn't I tell the OP, "And more than likely, your kids are
now or will soon be much more
computer literate than you are, and they'll get around whatever you try
to do to stop them."

It is you with your BS technological babysitter that "does not have an
appreciation for what children can accomplish with their own ingenuity."

Unfortunately not all parents
can hover over their children 24/7 and sometimes all the parental
examples/teachings cannot curb the natural curiosity/sneakiness of
kids. Maybe this parent doesn't have the same opportunities as you,
being home 24/7 to monitor their child's activities. Wanting a "tool"
to control software and internet activity is very responsible and has
absolutely nothing to do with the parenting skills/responsibilities
except to a purest! Join the real world of working parents
struggling to provide for their families etc.

LOL! I really do feel sorry for your kids. You have taught them to
abdicate responsibility for Technology. Those are some parenting skills
you are passing on to your brats!

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Kurt Kirsch
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[kurttrail]

kurttrail escreveu:


Forgive me but your logic seems alarmingly defeatist.

Really? My parents didn't need a V-chip to control what I saw on TV.

The true defeatists are those that throw in the towel and leave
parenting up to technological control, instead of hands-on parenting.

As an example, I know that (probably all) spyware programmers are
vastly more computer literate than I (and possibly most home computer
users) will ever be. But this doesn't mean I throw my hands in the air
and do nothing about spyware getting onto my machine.

Most, if not all spyware can be stopped without any technology at all.
It's called using common sense.

I feel that had our ancestors adopted your advice during the evolution
of our species, we would all be still living in caves.

LOL! I fear we may be heading towards something much worse than caves,
slavery, when generations of humans become so conditioned by
technological controls on their lives that they no longer know how to
think for themselves. Big Brother technologies will tell them what to
and what not to think and do.

You cannot teach your kids how to live free as an fully responsible
individuals by abdicating your parental responsibilities to soul-less
technologies.

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Kurt Kirsch
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[PaulFXH]

Bruce Chambers escreveu:

You misunderstand, completely. Kurt isn't advising the OP to
surrender, just the opposite. To Kurt's and others' (including mine --
Kurt, have you seen a weather report from Hell? That's twice within the
same week we've been mostly in agreement.) way of thinking, it's the
parent who has turned his supervisory role over to a software product
who has "given up."

Bruce,
I've read the OP's post over and over and I just cannot see where
he/she states that they are considering totally bowing out of parenting
activities and handing over the reins to a software package.
Perhaps this thread gone a little off the rails?
Personally, I (father of four) feel it is perfectly reasonable to
supplement one's "live interface" activities with a little third party
assistance.

Let's look at your example. Sure, there are software tools to *help*
protect your PC from malware, but not of them can predict and prevent
future threats with 100% accuracy; the most important component of any
computer security policy is - and always will be - a knowledgeable and
pro-active computer user.




Not at all. But following your advice, we'd still be there waiting for
someone else to scare off the predators and invent the wheel for for us.

I don't remember giving any advice at all.

Paul

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Bruce,
I've read the OP's post over and over and I just cannot see where
he/she states that they are considering totally bowing out of parenting
activities and handing over the reins to a software package.

No, the OP didn't make any such statement, but my post wasn't directed
to the OP. I was responding to someone using the handle "JT," who was
taking Kurttrail to task for doing so much as mentioning "parental
responsibility." You'll notice that, in my direct response to the OP,
that I offered some technical tools to ease the task, but included the
caveat that technical solutions cannot do everything.

Perhaps this thread gone a little off the rails?

Threads that stray off the purely technical tend to do that. But
they're often entertaining. ;-}

Personally, I (father of four) feel it is perfectly reasonable to
supplement one's "live interface" activities with a little third party
assistance.

I've not opposed to using technological tools (I'd be out of a job, if
I were) to "supplement," but I don't want to see anyone come to believe
that every problem has a technical solution, nor do I want to see people
become completely dependent upon others (including the makers of
software) to do their decision-making for them.


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[Bruce Chambers]

.... soul-less technologies.

Isn't that a redundancy?


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[kurttrail]

Isn't that a redundancy?

I would hope so, but you never know what people believe.

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[Plato]

Parent Guidance is more than suggested. It is required.

Exactly. Dont use technology/software to replace proper parenting.

 

[Plato]

Is there a way to stop my kids from accessing certain programs on my computer

Yes. Tell your kids NOT to access them or you will NOT let them use your
pc. Simple. Nuff said.