Licenzing Win2000

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bala nemate

Hi,

I have laptop with WinXP Pro OEM. I need to use Win2000. Well, by licenzing
system is it ok to downgrade XPPro->2kPro. But where to get Serial for
Win2000 ? Local M$ people could only answer " It is ok, you use any SN you
can find on internet." wtf? I have purchased PC with OS and I have to use
pirated OS????

Br
bala nemate
 
bala nemate said:
Hi,

I have laptop with WinXP Pro OEM. I need to use Win2000. Well, by
licenzing
system is it ok to downgrade XPPro->2kPro. But where to get Serial for
Win2000 ? Local M$ people could only answer " It is ok, you use any SN you
can find on internet." wtf? I have purchased PC with OS and I have to use
pirated OS????

You purchased a PC with XP. If you don't need XP, you must purchase 2000.

You are only allowed to use the OS you are licensed for. Depending on your
XP license, you might not even be allowed to move your OS to a new computer.
 
Why do you need win2k?
If you have winxp needing win2k instead seem somewhat odd to say the least.
win2k is no longer supplied by MS you would have to purchase via ebay or
similar.
You cannot downgrade an o/s you would have to clean install, and this
assumes your hw has win2k drivers.
 
bala said:
Hi,

I have laptop with WinXP Pro OEM. I need to use Win2000. Well, by
licenzing system is it ok to downgrade XPPro->2kPro. But where to get
Serial for Win2000 ? Local M$ people could only answer " It is ok, you use
any SN you can find on internet." wtf? I have purchased PC with OS and I
have to use pirated OS????

Br
bala nemate

Windows XP is a superset or successor to W2K - why do you need W2K?
 
You cannot downgrade an o/s you would have to clean install, and this
assumes your hw has win2k drivers.

With most windows, if not every single version of windows, you can
'downgrade.'
 
Borked said:
With most windows, if not every single version of windows, you can
'downgrade.'

No you can't. You can use an XP LICENCE in the "downgraded" mode to install
W2K, but you cannot downgrade XP to W2K.
 
"Downgrade rights grant the right to use prior versions of Microsoft
software(...)
Rights to OEM versions of systems software are granted in the OEM EULA. The
OEM EULAs for most OEM versions of systems software do not grant downgrade
rights. The exception is the OEM EULA for Microsoft Windows XP Professional,
which grants downgrade rights. "

What do you mean, "can use xp lic" ? It is extremly hard to find info in ms
site..

bn
 
Windows XP is a superset or successor to W2K - why do you need W2K?

IMHO, xp is full of bells and whistles, which i'll never need and use and
which only complicate my life (integrated security, 'user friendly'
interface and so on)there is only one good thing in xp - powerfull command
line (as always stollen idea, from unix this time)
xp for home ? maybe and why not? xp for work? never.
btw, we use specific software wich do not work correctly on xp machines
(memory leaks etc)

br,
bn
 
bala said:
IMHO, xp is full of bells and whistles, which i'll never need and use and
which only complicate my life (integrated security, 'user friendly'
interface and so on)there is only one good thing in xp - powerfull command
line (as always stollen idea, from unix this time)
xp for home ? maybe and why not? xp for work? never.
btw, we use specific software wich do not work correctly on xp machines
(memory leaks etc)

br,
bn

Well you've only got three and a half years before even the extended support
for W2K ends.....I've not come across ANY reports of memory leak problems
on XP - if anything, XP is a BETTER memory manager than W2K. Is this
bespoke software, or commercially-available packages?
 
bala said:
IMHO, xp is full of bells and whistles, which i'll never need and use and
which only complicate my life (integrated security, 'user friendly'
interface and so on)

You CAN turn XP into the classic W2K interface you know - AND turn off the
security. (If the machine has internet access then you would be EXTREMELY
foolish not to use some sort of security, even with W2K, whether built-in
or third party....)
 
You can use any available key--the licensing is covered by the downgrade
rights of your XP Pro OEM.

You are not using the license associated with the downloaded key--you are
using the license associated with YOUR key.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
 
BZZT--wrong answer. Some versions give downgrade rights, and XP Pro OEM does
have downgrade rights.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-
 
1) The end game is; if you wish to use win2k you will have to purchase a
legitimate version. Don't concern yourself with licence issues, they are
irrelevant in this context.
2) You can turn off / uninstall the winxp bells & whistles
3) Memory leaks? badly written software / not designed for an nt based
system
 
bala said:
Hi,

I have laptop with WinXP Pro OEM. I need to use Win2000. Well, by licenzing
system is it ok to downgrade XPPro->2kPro. But where to get Serial for
Win2000 ? Local M$ people could only answer " It is ok, you use any SN you
can find on internet." wtf? I have purchased PC with OS and I have to use
pirated OS????

Br
bala nemate


OEM and the Select/Open Volume licenses can be downgraded. Further
the WinXP license remains a _single_ license: you can use it for its
original WinXP installation, or you can use it, if it meets the other
requirements, Win2K Pro.

Microsoft Downgrading Chart
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/downloads/downgrade_chart.doc

You would have to use a Win2K CD and Product Key that you already
have a legal license to use, such as one for another computer that you own.


--

Bruce Chambers

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If I have to do this on 8 stations on the same network will there be issues
with using the same ghost image(same licence)? all have valid xp pro
licences, but with downgrade I would like to use ghost but I'm concerned
about using the same image for all.
Thanx
Rob
 
robmultilink said:
If I have to do this on 8 stations on the same network will there be issues
with using the same ghost image(same licence)?


Depends on how much integrity you have. By the licening terms, you
need to purchase a separate Win2K license for each computer on which you
install it. (As long as you have multiple identical licenses, it
doesn't matter if you use the same CD for the installations, as long as
you use a different license each time.)

Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one Win2K license for each computer on which it
is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
final applicability in your locale.)

Unfortunately, however, Win2K lacks WinXP's copy protection and
licvense enforcement feature, WPA. Microsoft relied upon the honesty of
its customers to abide by the licensing terms. Which is why later
Microsoft operating systems have incorporated increasingly stringent
anti-theft measures.

all have valid xp pro
licences, but with downgrade I would like to use ghost but I'm concerned
about using the same image for all.

The image won't make any great deal of difference, as long as you
possess a Win2K license for each machine.

Not all WinXP Pro licenses are downgradeable. Only OEM and the
Select/Open Volume licenses can be downgraded. Further the WinXP
license remains a _single_ license: you can use it for its original
WinXP installation, or you can use it, if it meets the other
requirements, Win2K Pro.

Microsoft Downgrading Chart
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/downloads/downgrade_chart.doc

You would have to use a Win2K CD and Product Key that you already
have a legal license to use.

There is no "rollback" to Win2K. To replace WinXP with an earlier
OS, you'll have to boot from the appropriate boot disk, format the hard
drive, and install. There is no supported downgrade path or technique.

Simply boot from the Win2K installation CD. You'll be offered the
opportunity to delete, create, and/or format the system partition as
part of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order
of boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)


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I've plenty of integrity it is oem and is legal. I contacted presale and
licensing today they said they just couldn't provide the media, but it was in
the terms. I also got a call back from posiflex with the exact same
response. So I feel the length I went to in order to validate the legality
speaks for itself and for my integrity
Thanks,
Rob
 
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