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This may be a useless question, but is it okay to leave your computer on all
night (on Standby mode, of course)? Does this do any short-term or long-term
damange to the computer? I have Windows XP Home Edition. Sony Vaio. If that
means anything...

Thanks in advance.
 
Hi there - I'm up late tonite, so if you are too you'll have something to read!

I've heard two very different opinions, both logical, and both from very
reliable sources. I guess it really depends on whether or not you have
personally experienced problems with APM (the advanced power management
settings) and Windows XP and rejuvinating the USB threads when a computer
comes out of standby or hibernation mode.

One opinion is that turning on a PC after it has been off for at least an
hour (a cold start) may cause physical temperature shock to microcircuits
within IC's or the CPU. Those Sony Vaio's are so well made tho and so
low-temp running anyway that I would not be as concerned about temp shock
from a cold start.

Bringing a computer to life from standby will result in less incidence of
temp-shock from waking up, but bring with it a host of technical tweaks and
settings that you will have to ask other people about or experiment with on
your own. The BIOS APM settings have settings for which kinds of devices,
I/O and IRQ's will either cause the system to wake or not. Also, some
devices can be set by default to not wake up upon resuming from standby. If
you want to do some research in advance, just search the knowledgebase at
support.microsoft.com and use a phrase like "resuming from standby" or
similar to get an idea of fixes to common problems.

A good tip is to use device manager to check the properties of each device
(if you encounter wake up problems resuming from standby) and look at the
"Power" tab or properties and make sure that there is a checkmark in the "Let
Windows turn off this device to save power..." some devices may have been
set to unchecked and windows and the APM won't be able to turn it back on
without growing arms and fingers.

Sony does a real good job with utilities and controls for their PC's that
you should probably try sticking with them as well. Don't mess around with
the BIOS directly if Sony has a little application or control program that
does the same thing. The reason they do things that way is because the
little control application is always much more intuitive and easier to
understand what is going on (and may restrict access to some settings that
you wouldn't want to mess around with anyway) I've seen BIOS settings that,
because the manual was translated into english from Japanese or Korean, the
meaning of some key words were exactly the opposite in meaning. Of course,
those were cheap computers.

The thing that tends to wear out on any computer, believe it or not, are
simply the fans and the drives (hard or optical) Most everything else you
will find will be generally functional from an electronics standpoint for
their typical rated 10-years estimated life. It's mechanical stuff -
material rubbing against other materials - that ends up failing, save
dropping the box from your rooftop or other unnatural and unexpected shock or
damage. I have a Sony DRU-500A DVD Writer optical drive today that was in a
piece of garbage mini-formfactor PC called "Shuttle" and the whole box ended
up thrown out a 2nd story window (yes, really... I had a mad-on that day and
weeks of begging for support from Shuttle were in vain) The $300 box looked
horrible. The DVD burner was tweaked, the front bezel broken off, the tray
disk tray was bent, it was $300 just for the burner. I spent about 3 hours
carefully taking that Sony optical drive apart and gingerly bending, aligning
and putting things back together. A year later, it still works without so
much as one CRC error on any disk that I burn. Sony is good product and you
should always make sure to avoid the temptation to go direct to Microsoft for
updates before checking Sony's support site first. Sony hardware and
devices are very driver-specific and once a service pack from MS is applied,
invariably, the manufacturer-specific driver cannot be located on the fly so
the "wizard" (I hate that word!) grabs the nearest least-common-denominator
HCL approved driver which may be inferior to the one you already had.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't do hibernation except in the case of the
UPS shutdown from a general power failure. I would do the standby mode but
my fans won't go off over time so the box sits there and keeps humming as
loudly as it was when fully powered. I usually do a graceful shutdown and
let windows do its thing shutting it all down and I figure if my home PC is
on 4-6 hours a day, compared to leaving it on 24/7 I probably extended the
life of my computer by a factor of at least 4 because I turn it off at night.
At least the fans last longer!

Had enough yet? I could go on but that would be just plain mean. :-)

PM
 
Hi there - I'm up late tonite, so if you are too you'll have something to read!

I've heard two very different opinions, both logical, and both from very
reliable sources. I guess it really depends on whether or not you have
personally experienced problems with APM (the advanced power management
settings) and Windows XP and rejuvinating the USB threads when a computer
comes out of standby or hibernation mode.

One opinion is that turning on a PC after it has been off for at least an
hour (a cold start) may cause physical temperature shock to microcircuits
within IC's or the CPU. Those Sony Vaio's are so well made tho and so
low-temp running anyway that I would not be as concerned about temp shock
from a cold start.

Bringing a computer to life from standby will result in less incidence of
temp-shock from waking up, but bring with it a host of technical tweaks and
settings that you will have to ask other people about or experiment with on
your own. The BIOS APM settings have settings for which kinds of devices,
I/O and IRQ's will either cause the system to wake or not. Also, some
devices can be set by default to not wake up upon resuming from standby. If
you want to do some research in advance, just search the knowledgebase at
support.microsoft.com and use a phrase like "resuming from standby" or
similar to get an idea of fixes to common problems.

A good tip is to use device manager to check the properties of each device
(if you encounter wake up problems resuming from standby) and look at the
"Power" tab or properties and make sure that there is a checkmark in the "Let
Windows turn off this device to save power..." some devices may have been
set to unchecked and windows and the APM won't be able to turn it back on
without growing arms and fingers.

Sony does a real good job with utilities and controls for their PC's that
you should probably try sticking with them as well. Don't mess around with
the BIOS directly if Sony has a little application or control program that
does the same thing. The reason they do things that way is because the
little control application is always much more intuitive and easier to
understand what is going on (and may restrict access to some settings that
you wouldn't want to mess around with anyway) I've seen BIOS settings that,
because the manual was translated into english from Japanese or Korean, the
meaning of some key words were exactly the opposite in meaning. Of course,
those were cheap computers.

The thing that tends to wear out on any computer, believe it or not, are
simply the fans and the drives (hard or optical) Most everything else you
will find will be generally functional from an electronics standpoint for
their typical rated 10-years estimated life. It's mechanical stuff -
material rubbing against other materials - that ends up failing, save
dropping the box from your rooftop or other unnatural and unexpected shock or
damage. I have a Sony DRU-500A DVD Writer optical drive today that was in a
piece of garbage mini-formfactor PC called "Shuttle" and the whole box ended
up thrown out a 2nd story window (yes, really... I had a mad-on that day and
weeks of begging for support from Shuttle were in vain) The $300 box looked
horrible. The DVD burner was tweaked, the front bezel broken off, the tray
disk tray was bent, it was $300 just for the burner. I spent about 3 hours
carefully taking that Sony optical drive apart and gingerly bending, aligning
and putting things back together. A year later, it still works without so
much as one CRC error on any disk that I burn. Sony is good product and you
should always make sure to avoid the temptation to go direct to Microsoft for
updates before checking Sony's support site first. Sony hardware and
devices are very driver-specific and once a service pack from MS is applied,
invariably, the manufacturer-specific driver cannot be located on the fly so
the "wizard" (I hate that word!) grabs the nearest least-common-denominator
HCL approved driver which may be inferior to the one you already had.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't do hibernation except in the case of the
UPS shutdown from a general power failure. I would do the standby mode but
my fans won't go off over time so the box sits there and keeps humming as
loudly as it was when fully powered. I usually do a graceful shutdown and
let windows do its thing shutting it all down and I figure if my home PC is
on 4-6 hours a day, compared to leaving it on 24/7 I probably extended the
life of my computer by a factor of at least 4 because I turn it off at night.
At least the fans last longer!

Had enough yet? I could go on but that would be just plain mean. :-)

PM
 
rain_glisten said:
This may be a useless question, but is it okay to leave your computer on
all
night (on Standby mode, of course)? Does this do any short-term or
long-term
damange to the computer? I have Windows XP Home Edition. Sony Vaio. If
that
means anything...

Thanks in advance.

The short answer is that it is a non issue. If it works for you, go for
it. If not don't worry. You will not damage your computer either way.

Back in the dark ages of DOS based 286's there was some real issues, but
those have long passed.
 
Thanks.

Joseph Meehan said:
The short answer is that it is a non issue. If it works for you, go for
it. If not don't worry. You will not damage your computer either way.

Back in the dark ages of DOS based 286's there was some real issues, but
those have long passed.
 
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This may be a useless question, but is it okay to leave your
computer on all night (on Standby mode, of course)? Does this do
any short-term or long-term damange to the computer? I have
Windows XP Home Edition. Sony Vaio. If that means anything...

Thanks in advance.

I left my Windows 95 & old computer on for 4 years every day and
night.. (It wouldn't keep time even with the new clock battery.) No
problems and it died after 5 years of old age. New windows so new
computer. Some say that the cooling down/warming up process can
shorten the life like it do's to a light bulb. BUT it will draw power
all that time and if you have a program that will connect to the
internet like a virus checker update, it may use up your time. I had
not set AVG to not automaticaly connect and found it dosen't
disconnect.
 
i'm so sorry to piggy back on your problem but that shows you how computer
illiterate i am .... my husband has had 3 seperate computer techs. out for
various things and the last one told him to leave the system going 24/7....
now since some tinkering on it with different things, the computer shuts off
on it's own when not in use. my husband thinks there is a problem with this,
i think it's normal. his solution is to go out and buy another keyboard and
mouse since the one's we have are logitech wireless. the person who told him
this could be the problem of course, is the tech. guy who will charge him
another $225 to come to the house. i like my wireless and really think
there's no reason to buy new. any help out there????
 
Ok, one at a time, first, leaving the computor in standby mode will no
harm anything, it does allow for faster startup as it does not need t
load everything again.
I do this with mine(and have for years).

Ok, now as for the shutdown problem, go to the control panel, look fo
"power options" there you can tell the computor to shut down after
set amount of time, you can also set just the monitor or hard disk t
shut down. look there to see what the settings are, and at that price
may get a job being a tech..:)
Hope this helps.
Shane
 
irishgemini said:
Ok, one at a time, first, leaving the computor in standby mode will not
harm anything, it does allow for faster startup as it does not need to
load everything again.
I do this with mine(and have for years).

Ok, now as for the shutdown problem, go to the control panel, look for
"power options" there you can tell the computor to shut down after a
set amount of time, you can also set just the monitor or hard disk to
shut down. look there to see what the settings are, and at that price I
may get a job being a tech..:)
Hope this helps.
Shane
 
muddled said:
:


Ok, one at a time, first, leaving the computor in standby mode wil
not
harm anything, it does allow for faster startup as it does not nee
to
load everything again.
I do this with mine(and have for years).

Ok, now as for the shutdown problem, go to the control panel, loo
for
"power options" there you can tell the computor to shut down after a
set amount of time, you can also set just the monitor or hard disk to
shut down. look there to see what the settings are, and at that pric
I
may get a job being a tech..:)
Hope this helps.
Shane

muddled in mchenry... Wrote:
i'm so sorry to piggy back on your problem but that shows you how
computer
illiterate i am .... my husband has had 3 seperate computer techs
out
for
various things and the last one told him to leave the system going
24/7....
now since some tinkering on it with different things, the computer
shuts off
on it's own when not in use. my husband thinks there is a proble
with
this,
i think it's normal. his solution is to go out and buy anothe
keyboard
and
mouse since the one's we have are logitech wireless. the person who
told him
this could be the problem of course, is the tech. guy who wil
charge
him
another $225 to come to the house. i like my wireless and reall
think
there's no reason to buy new. any help out there????

:

This may be a useless question, but is it okay to leave you
computer
on all
night (on Standby mode, of course)? Does this do any short-term or
long-term
damange to the computer? I have Windows XP Home Edition. Sony Vaio
If
that
means anything...

Thanks in advance.


--
irishgemini
thank you so much for your help.... if i figure this out i may get t
keep my wireless! and save the tech for when we really need him caus
he knows a lot we just under utilize him... if you could tell me how t
turn off the monitor {it already does this) but leave the tower going
think that is what my husband wants cause that's what the tech. gu
told him to do and he would know best. i just think i can fix thi
ha-ha.... thanks soooo much. muddled in mchenry
No problem,
click START --->CONTROL PANEL --->POWER OPTIONS ---> there will b
several options to choose from, I assume your running winXP, there i
an option for the monitor, as well as the computor , you can go t
stanby or leave on all the time, hope this helps.

Let me know how this works out for you.
Shan
 
irishgemini said:
No problem,
click START --->CONTROL PANEL --->POWER OPTIONS ---> there will be
several options to choose from, I assume your running winXP, there is
an option for the monitor, as well as the computor , you can go to
stanby or leave on all the time, hope this helps.

Let me know how this works out for you.
Shane
ATT:irishgemini
Jumping in on this thread, I'm a bit gun shy about using standby,
(1) how does one restore it-use the spacebar?
(2) suppose it doesn't restore, can I shut down with the button
and start from scratch?
 
herbzee said:
irishgemini wrote:

muddled in mchenry... Wrote:

:


Ok, one at a time, first, leaving the computor in standby mode will
not
harm anything, it does allow for faster startup as it does not need
to
load everything again.
I do this with mine(and have for years).

Ok, now as for the shutdown problem, go to the control panel, look
for
"power options" there you can tell the computor to shut down after a
set amount of time, you can also set just the monitor or hard disk to
shut down. look there to see what the settings are, and at that price
I
may get a job being a tech..:)
Hope this helps.
Shane

muddled in mchenry... Wrote:
i'm so sorry to piggy back on your problem but that shows you how
computer
illiterate i am .... my husband has had 3 seperate computer techs.
out
for
various things and the last one told him to leave the system going
24/7....
now since some tinkering on it with different things, the computer
shuts off
on it's own when not in use. my husband thinks there is a problem
with
this,
i think it's normal. his solution is to go out and buy another
keyboard
and
mouse since the one's we have are logitech wireless. the person who
told him
this could be the problem of course, is the tech. guy who will
charge
him
another $225 to come to the house. i like my wireless and really
think
there's no reason to buy new. any help out there????

:

This may be a useless question, but is it okay to leave your
computer
on all
night (on Standby mode, of course)? Does this do any short-term or
long-term
damange to the computer? I have Windows XP Home Edition. Sony Vaio.
If
that
means anything...

Thanks in advance.


--
irishgemini
thank you so much for your help.... if i figure this out i may get to
keep my wireless! and save the tech for when we really need him cause
he knows a lot we just under utilize him... if you could tell me ho
to
turn off the monitor {it already does this) but leave the tower goin
i
think that is what my husband wants cause that's what the tech. guy
told him to do and he would know best. i just think i can fix this
ha-ha.... thanks soooo much. muddled in mchenry

No problem,
click START ---CONTROL PANEL ---POWER OPTIONS --- there will be
several options to choose from, I assume your running winXP, there is
an option for the monitor, as well as the computor , you can go to
stanby or leave on all the time, hope this helps.

Let me know how this works out for you.
Shane


ATT:irishgemini
Jumping in on this thread, I'm a bit gun shy about using standby,
(1) how does one restore it-use the spacebar?
(2) suppose it doesn't restore, can I shut down with the button
and start from scratch?
Yes, you can hit just about any button, but the spacebar, or I jus
move my mouse.
if it does not come out of stanby, just reboot. you'll be fine
 
irishgemini said:
Yes, you can hit just about any button, including the spacebar, or
just move my mouse.
There is also the HIBERNATE option, you can enable that from the powe
options as well...
if it does not come out of stanby, just reboot. you'll be fine.
Hopre this helps..
 

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