Last security updates crash computer

[Marco Gymnopoulos]

The security updates from today have crashed my computer. I cannot even boot
up anymore in normal mode. The computer hangs on windows boot up screen. How
can I undo all the security updates. The system recovery is deactivated, so
I cannot use it to undo all of the patches. Any ideas.

Thanks Marco

 

[Rock]

The security updates from today have crashed my computer. I cannot even
boot up anymore in normal mode. The computer hangs on windows boot up
screen. How can I undo all the security updates. The system recovery is
deactivated, so I cannot use it to undo all of the patches. Any ideas.

Too bad you disabled System Restore. That is one way to get around this by
doing a system restore in safe mode. Have you tried last known good
configuration from the Advanced Options Menu reached by restarting the
computer and tapping F8 repeatedly as the BIOS splash screen disappears
until the menu appears?

If that won't work then restore from the most recent image if you use drive
imaging software, and if not, do a repair install. All windows updates will
have to be reinstalled.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

 

[R. McCarty]

Attempt "Safe Mode" - Last known working Configuration. Press F8
( repetitively, @1-sec intervals ) between you BIOS boot screen and
the appearance of the XP Flag to enter Safe Mode's menu.

 

[Marco Gymnopoulos]

Did it still not works.Last known working configuration carshes too at boot
up. Of course I have no image of my windows. damn. Maybe I should expect
next time the worst while installing patches from Microsoft. Try a repair
install. I have learned my lesson. Install patches from Microsoft never when
they are offered new. They corrupt yur computer. That's the reason why no
vista is on my computer. LOL

Marco

 

[MAP]

Start in safe mode and uninstall the updates via add/remove.

 

[Rock]

Did it still not works.Last known working configuration carshes too at
boot up. Of course I have no image of my windows. damn. Maybe I should
expect next time the worst while installing patches from Microsoft. Try a
repair install. I have learned my lesson. Install patches from Microsoft
never when they are offered new. They corrupt yur computer. That's the
reason why no vista is on my computer. LOL

You should take away a lesson from this, but from what you have written you
are not assimilating the right one. Problems with a computer and data loss
are an issue of when, not if. Whether it's driver corruption or a failed
install (windows update or any other software), or hardware failure or a
momentary power glitch, sh*t happens.

A savvy computer user plans for this and has redundant recovery mechanisms
in place. System restore can be useful when properly maintained. You
should regularly backup the registry using a program like ERUNT. Create
regular backups using a drive imaging program so the system can be quickly
restored. Have redundancy in backups. If you focus on one mechanism for
possible problems you loose sight of the importance of having a disaster
recovery plan in place.

 

[Marco Gymnopoulos]

Thanks for your advice. Of course you are right. I was only annoyed about
the fact that somehting was corrupt with the security updates. If you look
at the windowsupdate newsgroup you will see that I am not alone. I erased
all the security patches in safe mode. The office patches you cannot
deinstall while running safe mode. What a stupid thing. Last but not least
the deinstall helped not. So I had to format and reistall everything. The
crash happened on my work computer. I safe all my data normally once a week.
Nevertheless I had to install all programs: 6h. Maybe I should invest in a
image software.

 

[Rock]

Thanks for your advice. Of course you are right. I was only annoyed about
the fact that somehting was corrupt with the security updates. If you look
at the windowsupdate newsgroup you will see that I am not alone. I erased
all the security patches in safe mode. The office patches you cannot
deinstall while running safe mode. What a stupid thing. Last but not least
the deinstall helped not. So I had to format and reistall everything. The
crash happened on my work computer. I safe all my data normally once a
week. Nevertheless I had to install all programs: 6h. Maybe I should
invest in a image software.

<snip>

Sorry to hear it wasn't correctable without a reinstall. Drive imaging is
one of the best investments to make. Image regularly, and you can be
running again in a matter of 1/2 hour. Under XP I was using Drive Image 7
but Powerquest sold out to Symantec some time ago. The Technology was
incorporated in Norton Ghost, but I don't like what Symantec has done with
it, and DI will not work Vista. I have recently gone to Acronis True Image
Home version 10 which works in both Vista and XP. Seems to be working fine.
It does partition and drive imaging, drive cloning, and file backups. From
images restores can be done on a volume, drive and file basis.

I haven't been to windowsupdate lately though I was going to drop in there
to see about the latest batch of updates, haven't applied them to my system
yet. I do updates one at a time, doing a custom scan at WU, then read each
one, download the ones I want, and install manually and individually. Test
a bit in between. I've not so far had any problems with updates using this
method. There are quite a few this time around so it will take a bit more
time.

I call visiting the windowsupdate newsgroup going over to the dark side.

 

[Marco Gymnopoulos]

Thanks for the recommendation of Acronis True Image.
I will have a look at this program.

Marco

 

[Rock]

You're welcome.

Thanks for the recommendation of Acronis True Image.
I will have a look at this program.

 

[...winston]

.. I do updates one at a time, doing a custom scan at WU, then read each
: one, download the ones I want, and install manually and individually. Test
: a bit in between. I've not so far had any problems with updates using this
: method. There are quite a few this time around so it will take a bit more
: time.

Rock,
I do similar and I'm glad to hear someone else does similar. Maybe its because of long habits formed starting with Win95..but in over 12 years of use from Win95 beta through XP Pro sp2 I've yet to have a single update failure.

One of these days, I'll clean out all the prior XP updates that have been replaced by later...but wading through everything might be worth more than its worth since drive space is economical and they all easily fit on a single dvd. Do you know of a link that provides only the required(seems like prior to Feb 07, it should be somewhere around ~100 give or take a few).

I use both Acronis(laptop) and Ghost(desktop)...been beta testing Symantec(Norton) stuff since day one when things used to fit on a single floppy. Though I do use Acronis TI on my laptop. Both have been reliable.

..winston

 

[Rock]

.. I do updates one at a time, doing a custom scan at WU, then read each
: one, download the ones I want, and install manually and individually.
Test
: a bit in between. I've not so far had any problems with updates using
this
: method. There are quite a few this time around so it will take a bit more
: time.

Rock,
I do similar and I'm glad to hear someone else does similar. Maybe its
because of long habits formed starting with Win95..but in over 12 years of
use from Win95 beta through XP Pro sp2 I've yet to have a single update
failure.

One of these days, I'll clean out all the prior XP updates that have been
replaced by later...but wading through everything might be worth more than
its worth since drive space is economical and they all easily fit on a
single dvd. Do you know of a link that provides only the required(seems like
prior to Feb 07, it should be somewhere around ~100 give or take a few).

I use both Acronis(laptop) and Ghost(desktop)...been beta testing
Symantec(Norton) stuff since day one when things used to fit on a single
floppy. Though I do use Acronis TI on my laptop. Both have been reliable.

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Lol, yep, I always did updates one at a time in Win95. I remember there was
a fellow who had a great win95 site where he kept up on what patches should
be applied to which Win95 versions. It was indispensible.

No I don't have a link to anything that shows all the updates; since it will
vary by the system I don't think there is one, unless one of the 3rd party
sites has it. There is the update catalog and the security bulletins. One
of the MVPs posts a list from time to time in response to some OP's
question, I'm not sure if it's Tim Slattery or Shenan Stanley. My memory
isn't clear on who.

I'm not sure what you mean by clean out all the prior updates. I remove the
previous uninstall folders and their entries in add/remove the next month
when the new batch comes out. Lately I've been spending almost all the time
in Vista so I'm keeping the uninstall folders for longer, since I don't
exercise XP that much.

I used Drive Image 7 in XP, but it's not compatible with Vista, so I moved
to Acronis TI. So far I like the increased functionality. Wouldn't be w/o
drive imaging.

 

[...winston]

:
: Lol, yep, I always did updates one at a time in Win95. I remember there was
: a fellow who had a great win95 site where he kept up on what patches should
: be applied to which Win95 versions. It was indispensible.
:
: No I don't have a link to anything that shows all the updates; since it will
: vary by the system I don't think there is one, unless one of the 3rd party
: sites has it. There is the update catalog and the security bulletins. One
: of the MVPs posts a list from time to time in response to some OP's
: question, I'm not sure if it's Tim Slattery or Shenan Stanley. My memory
: isn't clear on who.
:
: I'm not sure what you mean by clean out all the prior updates. I remove the
: previous uninstall folders and their entries in add/remove the next month
: when the new batch comes out. Lately I've been spending almost all the time
: in Vista so I'm keeping the uninstall folders for longer, since I don't
: exercise XP that much.
:
: I used Drive Image 7 in XP, but it's not compatible with Vista, so I moved
: to Acronis TI. So far I like the increased functionality. Wouldn't be w/o
: drive imaging.
:
: --
: Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
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Ben Jos Walbeehm ?
And in chronological order !
No longer available directly but still held in the web.archive.org
http://web.archive.org/web/20020604032835/www.walbeehm.com/win95upd.html
Lol..Look under Acknowledgements..I'm still there<g> and with a still functional email..too funny.

Clean out prior updates meant.... Updates that were downloaded and saved to disk/cd that are no longer necessary having been superceded by a later update.

Imo, an Imaging program should be one of the first purchases, ranking with an AV program in terms of importance. Ghost 12 will be the next Symantec Vista compatible(circa April 07)..

Enough OT..,


...winston o.b.


:

 

[Rock]

:
: Lol, yep, I always did updates one at a time in Win95. I remember there
was
: a fellow who had a great win95 site where he kept up on what patches
should
: be applied to which Win95 versions. It was indispensible.
:
: No I don't have a link to anything that shows all the updates; since it
will
: vary by the system I don't think there is one, unless one of the 3rd party
: sites has it. There is the update catalog and the security bulletins.
One
: of the MVPs posts a list from time to time in response to some OP's
: question, I'm not sure if it's Tim Slattery or Shenan Stanley. My memory
: isn't clear on who.
:
: I'm not sure what you mean by clean out all the prior updates. I remove
the
: previous uninstall folders and their entries in add/remove the next month
: when the new batch comes out. Lately I've been spending almost all the
time
: in Vista so I'm keeping the uninstall folders for longer, since I don't
: exercise XP that much.
:
: I used Drive Image 7 in XP, but it's not compatible with Vista, so I moved
: to Acronis TI. So far I like the increased functionality. Wouldn't be
w/o
: drive imaging.

-------------
Ben Jos Walbeehm ?
And in chronological order !
No longer available directly but still held in the web.archive.org
http://web.archive.org/web/20020604032835/www.walbeehm.com/win95upd.html
Lol..Look under Acknowledgements..I'm still there<g> and with a still
functional email..too funny.

Clean out prior updates meant.... Updates that were downloaded and saved to
disk/cd that are no longer necessary having been superceded by a later
update.

Imo, an Imaging program should be one of the first purchases, ranking with
an AV program in terms of importance. Ghost 12 will be the next Symantec
Vista compatible(circa April 07)..

__________

Ahh ok I got you on the clean out part. Lol, yep that is the site, Ben Jos
Walbeehm. Great memory, and you're even acknowledged! You must be an old
guy...

He did have interesting colors on that site. It was great. Thanks for a
blast to the past.

 

[...winston]

:
: Ahh ok I got you on the clean out part. Lol, yep that is the site, Ben Jos
: Walbeehm. Great memory, and you're even acknowledged! You must be an old
: guy...
:
: He did have interesting colors on that site. It was great. Thanks for a
: blast to the past.
You're welcome.
And if you remember that site, you could be as old as I <g>!
..winston

 

[Rock]

: Ahh ok I got you on the clean out part. Lol, yep that is the site, Ben
Jos
: Walbeehm. Great memory, and you're even acknowledged! You must be an old
: guy...
:
: He did have interesting colors on that site. It was great. Thanks for a
: blast to the past.
You're welcome.
And if you remember that site, you could be as old as I <g>!
..winston

_________________

Alas so true.