Lan home networking?

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I have 2 computers running XP home /SP2 with eithernet rj45 ports on each.
One Toshiba Satilite and the other Parisario 6000. Pardon spelling. I have a
eithernet cord plugged into each computer and can not get them to network.
Have run add connection wisards on both. Am I missing something? Do I have to
have a port hub between them to link with this type of connection? Would it
be better to try to connect with USB cord? Am running a Verizon V620 wireless
card which is working OK. Would like to access the other computer to the net
through Lan. Suggestions? Speciffic directions? Thanks in advance for any
help.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I have 2 computers running XP home /SP2 with eithernet rj45 ports on each.
One Toshiba Satilite and the other Parisario 6000. Pardon spelling. I have a
eithernet cord plugged into each computer and can not get them to network.
Have run add connection wisards on both. Am I missing something? Do I have to
have a port hub between them to link with this type of connection? Would it
be better to try to connect with USB cord? Am running a Verizon V620 wireless
card which is working OK. Would like to access the other computer to the net
through Lan. Suggestions? Speciffic directions? Thanks in advance for any
help.

Connecting two computers directly to each other requires a crossover
Ethernet cable. A regular Ethernet cable won't work, and both
computers will report that they're disconnected.

This web page shows how to set up Internet Connection Sharing between
the computers:

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
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[KiwiBrian]

This web page shows how to set up Internet Connection Sharing between
the computers:

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics

This tutorial states that the main PC must have two ethernet connections.
Is this still the case if a router is to be used to allow more than 2 PCs to
be networked?
Brian Tozer

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

This tutorial states that the main PC must have two ethernet connections.
Is this still the case if a router is to be used to allow more than 2 PCs to
be networked?
Brian Tozer

If you have a router, there's no "main" PC, and you don't need to set
up Internet Connection Sharing. Connect each computer to the router.
Run the Network Setup Wizard on each computer, and tell it that the
computer connects to the Internet through a residential gateway
(router).

A technical quibble: I wrote that web page, and it doesn't say that
the main PC must have two Ethernet connections. It says "The ICS
server computer must have two network connections". The Internet
network connection doesn't have to be Ethernet. For example, it can
be a dial-up connection or a USB connection to a cable/DSL modem.
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[KiwiBrian]

"KiwiBrian" wrote:

If you have a router, there's no "main" PC, and you don't need to set
up Internet Connection Sharing. Connect each computer to the router.
Run the Network Setup Wizard on each computer, and tell it that the
computer connects to the Internet through a residential gateway
(router).

I have a USB ADSL modem connected to PC1.
PC1 is connected to the 'main' ethernet connector on the router.
PC2 is connected to 1 of the 8 'secondary' ethernet connectors on the
router.
In this context I have a few queries regarding the above page as I think it
is the apropriate reference/tutorial for my situation.
1. What is the significance of the term 'Server"? it is used widely without
clarification.
2. Do your instruction above (in here) apply in my situation where I want
both pcs to be able to access the internet and also each other's files?
3. In trying to understand the significance of the "Network Gateway" page I
am again confused by the references to "Server" . I do not know whether this
applies to me or not.

I hope that you can narrow down my field of enquiries so that I can just
study what pertains to my situation.

A technical quibble: I wrote that web page, and it doesn't say that
the main PC must have two Ethernet connections. It says "The ICS
server computer must have two network connections". The Internet
network connection doesn't have to be Ethernet. For example, it can
be a dial-up connection or a USB connection to a cable/DSL modem.

Mea Culpa. Thanks for clarifying that Steve.
Hopefully I will soon be able to see the wood by removing many of the trees
obscuring the view.

Brian Tozer

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I have a USB ADSL modem connected to PC1.
PC1 is connected to the 'main' ethernet connector on the router.
PC2 is connected to 1 of the 8 'secondary' ethernet connectors on the
router.

OK. Thanks for explaining the setup. If your ADSL modem has an
Ethernet output, I recommend connecting it to the router's main (WAN,
Internet) port and using the router, not ICS, to share the connection

If the ADSL modem only has a USB output, you connect it to the main
computer and enable Internet Connection Sharing. In that case, you're
using the 8-port router as a network switch only, and you're not using
the router's routing capability. To ensure compatibility with ICS,
disable the router's built-in DHCP server. Connect both computers to
the router's LAN ports. Don't connect anything to the router's main
(WAN, Internet) port.

In this context I have a few queries regarding the above page as I think it
is the apropriate reference/tutorial for my situation.
1. What is the significance of the term 'Server"? it is used widely without
clarification.

The "server" is the computer that's making its shared Internet
connection available to other computers. The other computers are
"clients".

2. Do your instruction above (in here) apply in my situation where I want
both pcs to be able to access the internet and also each other's files?

Yes, provided that the ADSL modem only has a USB output.

3. In trying to understand the significance of the "Network Gateway" page I
am again confused by the references to "Server" . I do not know whether this
applies to me or not.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean by "Network Gateway" page.
I wrote a page called "Internet Gateway":

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/internetgateway.htm

I hope that you can narrow down my field of enquiries so that I can just
study what pertains to my situation.


Mea Culpa. Thanks for clarifying that Steve.
Hopefully I will soon be able to see the wood by removing many of the trees
obscuring the view.

Brian Tozer

You're welcome, Brian. Please ask more if I haven't explained things
clearly enough.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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