Knoppix 3.4 md5sums and other errors

[Achim Nolcken Lohse]

I downloaded Knoppix_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso from ftp.uni-kl.de/knoppix
May 4-5 (it took 30 hours, with many resumes), and it failed the
MD5sum test, yet it loads and runs without any error messages after
burning.

When I run the Cdtest "knoppix testcd", two files fail the internal
md5sum check:

/boot/isolinux/f2

and

/boot/isolinux/f3

I went back and downloaded the md5sum from the site a second time, and
it was different from the one I got there before starting the download
yesterday morning:

md5sum of May 4 10:30 (Mountain Time)

49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso

md5sum of May 5 14:00

8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso

md5sum calculated by dvdsig and winmd5sum on my downloaded iso file:

KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso,1371e16f4ddab3d3870c0e345e2f11fd

The f2 and f3 boot-up functions appear to perform normally as well,
displaying two screens of the cheatcodes available at boot-up, and
referring the user to others included in the full text file on CD

However, on reading the introductory text in the splash screen after
KDE loads, I found the following errors in documentation:

"System Requirements" requires a "486 cpu or better", but ALSO a
"Bootable CD-ROM drive"

This is contradictory and confusing, as I'm fairly certain there have
never been any 486 systems produced with bootable CD-ROM drives.

Then, in cheatcodes.txt, one finds the following:

"If your BIOS does not support el torito booting from CD, you can
create
a bootable floppy disk by issuing (on Linux)
dd if=/cdrom/KNOPPIX/boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k
or, in case of DOS, use the rawrite.exe program provided in the
KNOPPIX directory on CD."

AND

"knoppix ide2=0x180 nopcmcia Boot from PCMCIA-CD-Rom (some
notebooks)"

Which further contradicts the need for a bootable CD-ROM.

Unfortunately, these floppy boot directions can't work because there
is no boot.img (nor rawrite.exe) to be found in /KNOPPIX/ (or
elsewhere on the CD).

Happily, Knoppix 3.4 can still be booted without a bootable CD-ROM,
using the boot.img included in the Knoppix 3.3 release of 2004-02-09.
However, this boot image generates a series of "modprobe" error
messages because it references dependency files which don't exist on
the Knoppix 3.4 version. I don't know whether booting with the Version
3.3 boot floppy affects the performance of Knoppix 3.4.

I haven't tried booting from PCMCIA yet.






Achim



axethetax

 

[Ben Cooper]

I downloaded Knoppix_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso from ftp.uni-kl.de/knoppix
May 4-5 (it took 30 hours, with many resumes), and it failed the
MD5sum test, yet it loads and runs without any error messages after
burning.

[snip]

It's probably time for you to give up on trying to get Linux to work.

 

[Achim Nolcken Lohse]

.....

Then, in cheatcodes.txt, one finds the following:

"If your BIOS does not support el torito booting from CD, you can
create
a bootable floppy disk by issuing (on Linux)
dd if=/cdrom/KNOPPIX/boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k
or, in case of DOS, use the rawrite.exe program provided in the
KNOPPIX directory on CD."

AND

"knoppix ide2=0x180 nopcmcia Boot from PCMCIA-CD-Rom (some
notebooks)"

Which further contradicts the need for a bootable CD-ROM.

Unfortunately, these floppy boot directions can't work because there
is no boot.img (nor rawrite.exe) to be found in /KNOPPIX/ (or
elsewhere on the CD).

Happily, Knoppix 3.4 can still be booted without a bootable CD-ROM,
using the boot.img included in the Knoppix 3.3 release of 2004-02-09.
However, this boot image generates a series of "modprobe" error
messages because it references dependency files which don't exist on
the Knoppix 3.4 version. I don't know whether booting with the Version
3.3 boot floppy affects the performance of Knoppix 3.4.

Have since found there ARE negative effects from booting Knoppix 3.4
with the boot floppy from Ver. 3.3. When booting with the latter
image, Knoppix 3.4 is no longer able to play .wav files, giving a
message to check whether my soundcard is configured properly or
necessary plug-ins are installed.

The same wav file plays fine when Knoppix 3.4 is booted directly from
the CD. I imagine there will be other problems.

Has anyone has found or created a boot.img file for Knoppix 3.4
available for download?



Achim



axethetax

 

[Achim Nolcken Lohse]

I downloaded Knoppix_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso from ftp.uni-kl.de/knoppix
May 4-5 (it took 30 hours, with many resumes), and it failed the
MD5sum test, yet it loads and runs without any error messages after
burning.

[snip]

It's probably time for you to give up on trying to get Linux to work.

Haven't you got anything better to do than harrangue me?

You must have a pretty dull life....


Achim



axethetax

 

[Ben Cooper]

I downloaded Knoppix_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso from
ftp.uni-kl.de/knoppix May 4-5 (it took 30 hours, with many
resumes), and it failed the MD5sum test, yet it loads and runs
without any error messages after burning.

[snip]

It's probably time for you to give up on trying to get Linux to work.

Haven't you got anything better to do than harrangue [sic] me?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it
means."

You must have a pretty dull life....

It's certainly not as exciting as the one you're having.
Good luck with all your problems!

 

[Achim Nolcken Lohse]

On Sat, 8 May 2004 11:33:10 -0700, "Ben Cooper"

....

It's probably time for you to give up on trying to get Linux to work.

Haven't you got anything better to do than harrangue [sic] me?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it
means."

Really, are you reduced to doing word counts on my collective
postings?

Then you'd better count again - I believe this is the ONLY time I've
ever used that word on the net.

As for the meaning - maybe you'd better get a bigger dictionary. I
recommend the Unabridged Merriam-Webster.
You make my point more eloquently than I could. Correcting typos and
subtleties of meaning on a newsgroup (since you know perfectly well
what I meant) is about as pathetic as you can get on a newsgroup. Or
maybe we should rename this group
"alt.getyourspellingcorrected.byben"?

But since you imply someone may have misunderstood my posting, let me
admit that the words "heckle", "hound", or even "stalk" would have
conveyed my meaning more clearly than "harangue"

It's certainly not as exciting as the one you're having.
Good luck with all your problems!

Online bullies like you are one of my chief problems. Are you on some
kind of mission to stop Linux problems from being reported on the
usenet, or is it just that you need someone, anyone, to abuse?





Achim



axethetax

 

[Ben Cooper]

On Sat, 8 May 2004 11:33:10 -0700, "Ben Cooper"

...

It's probably time for you to give up on trying to get Linux to
work.

Haven't you got anything better to do than harrangue [sic] me?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it
means."

Really, are you reduced to doing word counts on my collective
postings?

Then you'd better count again - I believe this is the ONLY time I've
ever used that word on the net.

As for the meaning - maybe you'd better get a bigger dictionary. I
recommend the Unabridged Merriam-Webster.
You make my point more eloquently than I could. Correcting typos and
subtleties of meaning on a newsgroup (since you know perfectly well
what I meant) is about as pathetic as you can get on a newsgroup. Or
maybe we should rename this group
"alt.getyourspellingcorrected.byben"?

But since you imply someone may have misunderstood my posting, let me
admit that the words "heckle", "hound", or even "stalk" would have
conveyed my meaning more clearly than "harangue"

It's certainly not as exciting as the one you're having.
Good luck with all your problems!

Online bullies like you are one of my chief problems. Are you on some
kind of mission to stop Linux problems from being reported on the
usenet, or is it just that you need someone, anyone, to abuse?

Ha! This is the funniest thing I've read today! You're such a boob.

BTW, now you owe me a keyboard, too.

 

[Achim Nolcken Lohse]

Have just had an e-mail from Klaus Knopper explaining some of these
problems:

I downloaded Knoppix_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso from ftp.uni-kl.de/knoppix
May 4-5 (it took 30 hours, with many resumes), and it failed the
MD5sum test, yet it loads and runs without any error messages after
burning.

When I run the Cdtest "knoppix testcd", two files fail the internal
md5sum check:

/boot/isolinux/f2

and

/boot/isolinux/f3

I went back and downloaded the md5sum from the site a second time, and
it was different from the one I got there before starting the download
yesterday morning:

md5sum of May 4 10:30 (Mountain Time)

49a62cdac7a3afcee0d2d47ea17daa6f *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso

md5sum of May 5 14:00

8e9cd4d310ad8381d1ec3326c6caae2b *KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso

md5sum calculated by dvdsig and winmd5sum on my downloaded iso file:

KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso,1371e16f4ddab3d3870c0e345e2f11fd

The f2 and f3 boot-up functions appear to perform normally as well,
displaying two screens of the cheatcodes available at boot-up, and
referring the user to others included in the full text file on CD

Knopper tells me the ISO was replaced, with the two files in question
being changed, and I just happened to download the old md5sum and the
new iso.

However, on reading the introductory text in the splash screen after
KDE loads, I found the following errors in documentation:

"System Requirements" requires a "486 cpu or better", but ALSO a
"Bootable CD-ROM drive"

This is contradictory and confusing, as I'm fairly certain there have
never been any 486 systems produced with bootable CD-ROM drives.

Knopper feels this isn't necessarily the case.

Then, in cheatcodes.txt, one finds the following:

"If your BIOS does not support el torito booting from CD, you can
create
a bootable floppy disk by issuing (on Linux)
dd if=/cdrom/KNOPPIX/boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k
or, in case of DOS, use the rawrite.exe program provided in the
KNOPPIX directory on CD."

He forgot to remove the section above and will do so on the next
revision. However, there's still a way to boot Knoppix from a floppy.
He's working on a HOWTO.

AND

"knoppix ide2=0x180 nopcmcia Boot from PCMCIA-CD-Rom (some
notebooks)"

Which further contradicts the need for a bootable CD-ROM.

This cheatcode is for small Sony Vaio notebooks which have a bootable
ide-pcmcia cdrom.





Achim



axethetax

 

[Richard Steven Hack]

You gonna repost this everywhere and always?

How many times do you have to whine before you realize you're just a
troll?

"System Requirements" requires a "486 cpu or better", but ALSO a
"Bootable CD-ROM drive"

This is contradictory and confusing, as I'm fairly certain there have
never been any 486 systems produced with bootable CD-ROM drives.

Oh, please, get a grip. The kernel needs a 486 or better. The
bootable CD-ROM is so the specific Knoppix CD can boot.

You can't comprehend this? Or are you just plug-****ing stupid?
Evidently English isn't your native language but the above should
translate properly in any language. No, your real problem is you are
striving so hard to find things wrong with Linux so you can whine and
complain and generally act like a troll.

**** off, moron.