KB925902 - whose mistake was it, really?

[Alan D]

My point, vaguely, was alluding to the fact that Microsoft doesn't support
home users well. I am in no way disagreeing with you. It will require a
major paradigm shift on the part of Microsoft to change that

Ah, I see!!! Sorry - I had obviously misunderstood who 'they' were.

Well who knows, Bob, maybe the paradigm shift starts here, if the right
person happens to read the right post at the right time......

 

[Guest]

I don't have the realtek onboard sound installed, it's on a detached daughter
card and hasn't seen my mb since I first installed it back in December of 05.
My sound card is a sb x-fi fatal1ty and I still had the problem with this
update. This problem extends further than what we've read here.

 

[Pat Willener]

Why don't you use Thunderbird? I wouldn't even know how to post to this
(or any) newsgroup from a browser...? (At least Firefox does not have a
'Post to Newsgroup' functionality.

 

[Guest]

So of course with that post, I just had to try this using FireFox.
--
Regards, Dave

Why don't you use Thunderbird? I wouldn't even know how to post to this
(or any) newsgroup from a browser...? (At least Firefox does not have a
'Post to Newsgroup' functionality.

I was reading through some of the stuff about this yet again, and found this
in KB935448.

"This problem may occur after you install security update 925902 (MS07-017)
and security update 928843 (MS07-008). The Hhctrl.ocx file that is included
in security update 928843 and the User32.dll file that is included in
security update 925902 have conflicting base addresses. This problem occurs
if the program loads the Hhctrl.ocx file before it loads the User32.dll file."

There's no mention here of RealTek writing the wrong kind of code. Rather,
Microsoft are saying they've introduced an inconsistency into two of their
security patches. It's an academic point - but does anyone know the truth of
the matter?

[Incidentally, and completely OT, posting to this newsgroup from a browser
is becoming increasingly difficult - a post nearly always fails, for me, on
the first attempt.]

 

[Alan D]

So of course with that post, I just had to try this using FireFox.

I'm still so besotted with the novelty of posting from Outlook Express that
I'll use any excuse to do it again.

 

[robinb]

i am glad it worked, sorry it took me so long to respond but i am sick in
bed with an upper respitory infection and here is one worse, we had that nor
ester yesterday and my basement flooded with 3inches of water. This is where
all my 7 computers are and our business. As sick as i am, my husband and i
raced to unplug them and move them to higher ground. Water finally with sub
pumps, gone down. Now we twice already vaccummed the basement floor, it is
carpeted with indooor outdoor carpeting, and 3 fans running to dry it all
out and i was able to plug back in the internet and am typing now on the
sofa with my laptop, so you wil prolly only see me a bit until I am feeling
a bit better.
robin

 

[robinb]

Microsoft is a business to make money. and most businesses when they get to
be so large tend to forget about their customers. If Microsoft had more
compitiion you might see them care more, but since 3/4 of the world use pc's
running windows, they basically can do whatever they want and i doubt if you
would see an improvement at all.

robin

 

[Alan D]

i am sick in bed with an upper respitory infection and here is one worse,
we had that norester yesterday and my basement flooded with 3inches of
water.

Sorry you're ill, Robin. That's a bad time to get a flooded basement (not
that there is a good time)! But that's too much bad luck all in one go.
Sounds like the computers are all safe?

Hope you feel better soon.

 

[Guest]

Well ok today I got bold and tried it again since windows update was now
showing two updates. I allowed the malicious tool update released today to
be the first one to install by itself. I had problems upon reboot and had to
use the system repair feature on the dvd and then I was able to reboot. I
checked to make sure that windows was genuine which is wasn't after I
installed the update and it wouldn't let me use system restore on the system
which is why I booted off the dvd. Then I installed the dreaded 902 update
and lo and behold it rebooted fine without any problems. It's been running
fine ever since and I'm confused. Who knows, perhaps I held my mouth in the
right way today.

 

[robinb]

if you were here you would have laughed! (while we cried) At 10am sunday
morning, my husband went into the basement just to see if everything was ok
since it was raining so hard all nite, a driving non stop rain all nite, and
he yelled up "the basement is flooding". We have a sump pump hole, no sump
pum pbecause the basement has been dry for 10yrs. I live in attached homes
called town homes and there are 5 units in my run. Only 2 had no water. The
hold bubbled up so fast and the water came out, it looked like a lava
overflow on a mountain. We have one pump which we put in the hole and
drained it upstairs out the front door and while he was doing this, as sick
as i felt, I said OH NO MY COMPUTERS!. Luckly they do not sit directly on
the floor but on a stand with rollers, and one by one i ran like a rabbit,
unpluging all that was attached and picked them up and put them on the
desks, so thank goodness no damage.
We got 3inches of water, the carpet looked like glass looking up from the
stairs. My husband ran out and got another pump and thankgoodness in 3hrs
it started to receed from the floor, at which that time we started to suck
it up with a shop vac.
He got up early this morning and did another sweep with the shop vac and we
had to hook up one of the computers so my husband could get everyone's
taxes together and printed (he is a tax accountant). Due date is tomorrow
but extensions are today.
He finished around 3pm our time-ran out to the Post Office, came back and
did another vaccum sweep. Now we have 4 industrial fans running in the
basement, a dehumidifer running to get out the humidity. Our basement is
finished with desks, TV and fouton and of course a bunch of toys for the
grandkids and hopefully by the end of the week we will be all dried out.
Then we have to pul the modlings off the bottom of the sheetrock and make
cuts in it to cut out the wetpart, then move the 7 file cabinets and get the
water out from underneath it all.
I guess we can thank our lucky stars that we did not have 4ft like
neighbors not far from me did and had to be evacuated from their home.
robin