Joystick Z axis offset

D

Dennis

Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB Joystick.
Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which causes
flight simulator rudder offset to the right. Joystick
works in another system. Installed new USB port, same
problem. Any ideas
 
J

Jimmy S.

Hi Dennis,

Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism settings in FS
will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may need to
update your chipset drivers for better USB performance, and
then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick both with and
without using the profile software or loading it at startup as well.

--
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_________________________________________________________

| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB Joystick.
| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which causes
| flight simulator rudder offset to the right. Joystick
| works in another system. Installed new USB port, same
| problem. Any ideas
 
D

Dennis

Thanks Jimmy,
Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help. Also,
tried to load the profile software at startup and run
without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card into
PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With new
USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism settings in FS
will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may need to
update your chipset drivers for better USB performance, and
then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick both with and
without using the profile software or loading it at startup as well.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? scid=FH;[LN];gms
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_________________________________________________________

"Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in
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J

Jimmy S.

Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double-clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would try it.

--
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Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


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_________________________________________________________

| Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help. Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
| confer any rights.
| >_________________________________________________________
| >
| message | >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right. Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port, same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >
 
D

Dennis

Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double-clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would try it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? scid=FH;[LN];gms
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_________________________________________________________

"Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
| Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help. Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
| confer any rights.
|
_________________________________________________________
| >
| message | >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right. Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port, same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.
 
J

Joshua Smith [MSFT]

Have you tried calibrating the controller in the Gaming Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
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Dennis said:
Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double-clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would try it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
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My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

"Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
| Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help. Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
| confer any rights.
|
_________________________________________________________
| >
| message | >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right. Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port, same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.
 
D

Dennis

Hi Joshua:
Well, I have run the calibration. But there does not seem
to be much in the way of actual calibration. Explain, if I
am wrong.

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried calibrating the controller in the Gaming Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double- clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would try it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
________________________________________________________ _

"Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
| Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help. Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor
do
I
| confer any rights.
|
________________________________________________________ _
| >
| message | >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right. Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port, same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.


.
 
J

Joshua Smith [MSFT]

When you run the calibration in the Game Controllers panel it asks to have
each axis in turn moved to its min and max positions. That way if the
controller doesn't have the full range for some reason then you can still
get corrected data from it. Where this fails is when the device itself isn't
giving consistent data. For example you have an axis that reports data from
500 to 55,000. When calibrated DirectInput would take this range and
interpret it as being 0-65,535. If the device then started reporting from
1000-46,000 then the calibration data wouldn't be accurate. The other part
of the calibration asks to center the axis for X, Y and Rudders. This allows
DirectInput to mark what is considers the center point. So if the above
device was in bad shape and was reporting 500-55,000 with center being at
40,000 then you would have good movement on one side, rapid (but full)
movement on the other but when released it should "center" even though
normally it would be indicating movement to one side.

You can check to see if your calibration data is being saved by
intentionally miscalibrating the device. Try holding the X-Y axis in the
center of the upper left quarter and the rudder half way to one side. When
prompted to move the full range just keep it in the upper left area and the
half of the rudder you centered in. After calibration if it actually saved
the data you should see your device report full movement when moving through
the portion you calibrated above and it should just stay maxed out if you
move beyond those points.

If you have another system you can try the device there to see if you get
the same results. If you do you might want to take it to where you got it
and tell them you suspect it may be faulty and ask if you can test another
one there to see if you get the same behavior.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
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Dennis said:
Hi Joshua:
Well, I have run the calibration. But there does not seem
to be much in the way of actual calibration. Explain, if I
am wrong.

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried calibrating the controller in the Gaming Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double- clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would try
it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP
Shell / User
Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
confer any rights.
________________________________________________________ _

message | Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help. Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card
into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism
settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may
need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick
both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do
I
| confer any rights.
|
________________________________________________________ _
| >
| message | >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which
causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right. Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port, same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.


.
 
D

Dennis

Joshua:
I used another joystick, same kind, purchased at the same
time. It does exactly the same thing. Also, there is no
calibration on this joystick, that I can perceive. it
allows you to test, but no calibration screen.
-----Original Message-----
When you run the calibration in the Game Controllers panel it asks to have
each axis in turn moved to its min and max positions. That way if the
controller doesn't have the full range for some reason then you can still
get corrected data from it. Where this fails is when the device itself isn't
giving consistent data. For example you have an axis that reports data from
500 to 55,000. When calibrated DirectInput would take this range and
interpret it as being 0-65,535. If the device then started reporting from
1000-46,000 then the calibration data wouldn't be accurate. The other part
of the calibration asks to center the axis for X, Y and Rudders. This allows
DirectInput to mark what is considers the center point. So if the above
device was in bad shape and was reporting 500-55,000 with center being at
40,000 then you would have good movement on one side, rapid (but full)
movement on the other but when released it should "center" even though
normally it would be indicating movement to one side.

You can check to see if your calibration data is being saved by
intentionally miscalibrating the device. Try holding the X-Y axis in the
center of the upper left quarter and the rudder half way to one side. When
prompted to move the full range just keep it in the upper left area and the
half of the rudder you centered in. After calibration if it actually saved
the data you should see your device report full movement when moving through
the portion you calibrated above and it should just stay maxed out if you
move beyond those points.

If you have another system you can try the device there to see if you get
the same results. If you do you might want to take it to where you got it
and tell them you suspect it may be faulty and ask if you can test another
one there to see if you get the same behavior.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

Hi Joshua:
Well, I have run the calibration. But there does not seem
to be much in the way of actual calibration. Explain, if I
am wrong.

-----Original Message-----
Have you tried calibrating the controller in the Gaming Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double- clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would try
it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP
Shell / User
Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
confer any rights.
______________________________________________________
__
_
message | Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help. Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card
into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism
settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may
need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick
both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do
I
| confer any rights.
|
______________________________________________________
__
_
wrote
in
| message [email protected]...
| >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which
causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right. Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port, same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.



.


.
 
J

Joshua Smith [MSFT]

Alll game controllers that don't have a replacement Properties page can be
calibrated through the Gaming Options control panel.

1. Connect the device to the system.
2. Start -> Run -> Control Panel
3. Switch to "Classic View".
4. Run the Gaming Options control
5. In Gaming Options Click the "Properties" button.
6. In the controllers "Properties" page select the "Settings" tab.
7. Click the "Calibrate" button.

If the Properties page has been replaced by a 3rd party driver then they
will have to provide their own method to allow you to calibrate, but it
should still be there somewhere.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights


Dennis said:
Joshua:
I used another joystick, same kind, purchased at the same
time. It does exactly the same thing. Also, there is no
calibration on this joystick, that I can perceive. it
allows you to test, but no calibration screen.
-----Original Message-----
When you run the calibration in the Game Controllers panel it asks to have
each axis in turn moved to its min and max positions. That way if the
controller doesn't have the full range for some reason then you can still
get corrected data from it. Where this fails is when the device itself isn't
giving consistent data. For example you have an axis that reports data from
500 to 55,000. When calibrated DirectInput would take this range and
interpret it as being 0-65,535. If the device then started reporting from
1000-46,000 then the calibration data wouldn't be accurate. The other part
of the calibration asks to center the axis for X, Y and Rudders. This allows
DirectInput to mark what is considers the center point. So if the above
device was in bad shape and was reporting 500-55,000 with center being at
40,000 then you would have good movement on one side, rapid (but full)
movement on the other but when released it should "center" even though
normally it would be indicating movement to one side.

You can check to see if your calibration data is being saved by
intentionally miscalibrating the device. Try holding the X-Y axis in the
center of the upper left quarter and the rudder half way to one side. When
prompted to move the full range just keep it in the upper left area and the
half of the rudder you centered in. After calibration if it actually saved
the data you should see your device report full movement when moving through
the portion you calibrated above and it should just stay maxed out if you
move beyond those points.

If you have another system you can try the device there to see if you get
the same results. If you do you might want to take it to where you got it
and tell them you suspect it may be faulty and ask if you can test another
one there to see if you get the same behavior.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

Hi Joshua:
Well, I have run the calibration. But there does not seem
to be much in the way of actual calibration. Explain, if I
am wrong.


-----Original Message-----
Have you tried calibrating the controller in the Gaming
Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights

message
Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double-
clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would try
it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP
Shell / User
Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
confer any rights.
______________________________________________________ __
_

message | Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help.
Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card
into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With
new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism
settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may
need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB
performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick
both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP
MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor
do
I
| confer any rights.
|
______________________________________________________ __
_
| >
in
| message [email protected]...
| >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which
causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right.
Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port,
same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.



.


.
 
D

Dennis

Joshua:
There isn't any calibration screen. I've contacted the
Thrustmaster customer support and they say the device is
defective, however, a like item purchased at the same
time, fails the same way. Both joysticks perform properly
on another system with Window ME. Both perform properly on
another system with Windows XP-home. I've installed
another USB 2.0 PCi card and the joysticks still perform
the same way. The thrustmaster software does not allow any
calibration, just adjustment of dead zone and filtering.
If I change the function of the joystick axis, i.e. allow
x axis to perform z-axis, same result. Fun huh!
-----Original Message-----
Alll game controllers that don't have a replacement Properties page can be
calibrated through the Gaming Options control panel.

1. Connect the device to the system.
2. Start -> Run -> Control Panel
3. Switch to "Classic View".
4. Run the Gaming Options control
5. In Gaming Options Click the "Properties" button.
6. In the controllers "Properties" page select the "Settings" tab.
7. Click the "Calibrate" button.

If the Properties page has been replaced by a 3rd party driver then they
will have to provide their own method to allow you to calibrate, but it
should still be there somewhere.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights


Joshua:
I used another joystick, same kind, purchased at the same
time. It does exactly the same thing. Also, there is no
calibration on this joystick, that I can perceive. it
allows you to test, but no calibration screen.
-----Original Message-----
When you run the calibration in the Game Controllers panel it asks to have
each axis in turn moved to its min and max positions. That way if the
controller doesn't have the full range for some reason then you can still
get corrected data from it. Where this fails is when the device itself isn't
giving consistent data. For example you have an axis
that
reports data from
500 to 55,000. When calibrated DirectInput would take this range and
interpret it as being 0-65,535. If the device then started reporting from
1000-46,000 then the calibration data wouldn't be accurate. The other part
of the calibration asks to center the axis for X, Y and Rudders. This allows
DirectInput to mark what is considers the center point. So if the above
device was in bad shape and was reporting 500-55,000
with
center being at
40,000 then you would have good movement on one side, rapid (but full)
movement on the other but when released it should "center" even though
normally it would be indicating movement to one side.

You can check to see if your calibration data is being saved by
intentionally miscalibrating the device. Try holding the X-Y axis in the
center of the upper left quarter and the rudder half way to one side. When
prompted to move the full range just keep it in the
upper
left area and the
half of the rudder you centered in. After calibration if it actually saved
the data you should see your device report full movement when moving through
the portion you calibrated above and it should just stay maxed out if you
move beyond those points.

If you have another system you can try the device there to see if you get
the same results. If you do you might want to take it to where you got it
and tell them you suspect it may be faulty and ask if
you
can test another
one there to see if you get the same behavior.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

Hi Joshua:
Well, I have run the calibration. But there does not seem
to be much in the way of actual calibration. Explain, if I
am wrong.


-----Original Message-----
Have you tried calibrating the controller in the Gaming
Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights

message
Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double-
clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would try
it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP
Shell / User
Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
confer any rights.
____________________________________________________
__
__
_

message [email protected]...
| Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help.
Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB card
into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With
new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism
settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may
need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB
performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the joystick
both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP
MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor
do
I
| confer any rights.
|
____________________________________________________
__
__
_
| >
in
| message [email protected]...
| >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which
causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right.
Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port,
same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.



.



.


.
 
J

Joshua Smith [MSFT]

You might want to uninstall the Thrustmaster driver package that you
installed. Virtually every USB joystick that isn't force feedback will work
fine without installing a 3rd party driver package. The very few exceptions
are very old USB devices. Hopefully removing the driver package would give
you the default property page that would give you access to calibration
again. The down side is that you would lose any extra features like
keymapping ability that might be provided by their custom property sheet. If
uninstall doesn't work and you tell me the driver package you installed we
might be able to rip out the custom property sheet by hand (requires
registry editing).

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights



Dennis said:
Joshua:
There isn't any calibration screen. I've contacted the
Thrustmaster customer support and they say the device is
defective, however, a like item purchased at the same
time, fails the same way. Both joysticks perform properly
on another system with Window ME. Both perform properly on
another system with Windows XP-home. I've installed
another USB 2.0 PCi card and the joysticks still perform
the same way. The thrustmaster software does not allow any
calibration, just adjustment of dead zone and filtering.
If I change the function of the joystick axis, i.e. allow
x axis to perform z-axis, same result. Fun huh!
-----Original Message-----
Alll game controllers that don't have a replacement Properties page can be
calibrated through the Gaming Options control panel.

1. Connect the device to the system.
2. Start -> Run -> Control Panel
3. Switch to "Classic View".
4. Run the Gaming Options control
5. In Gaming Options Click the "Properties" button.
6. In the controllers "Properties" page select the "Settings" tab.
7. Click the "Calibrate" button.

If the Properties page has been replaced by a 3rd party driver then they
will have to provide their own method to allow you to calibrate, but it
should still be there somewhere.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights


Joshua:
I used another joystick, same kind, purchased at the same
time. It does exactly the same thing. Also, there is no
calibration on this joystick, that I can perceive. it
allows you to test, but no calibration screen.
-----Original Message-----
When you run the calibration in the Game Controllers
panel it asks to have
each axis in turn moved to its min and max positions.
That way if the
controller doesn't have the full range for some reason
then you can still
get corrected data from it. Where this fails is when the
device itself isn't
giving consistent data. For example you have an axis that
reports data from
500 to 55,000. When calibrated DirectInput would take
this range and
interpret it as being 0-65,535. If the device then
started reporting from
1000-46,000 then the calibration data wouldn't be
accurate. The other part
of the calibration asks to center the axis for X, Y and
Rudders. This allows
DirectInput to mark what is considers the center point.
So if the above
device was in bad shape and was reporting 500-55,000 with
center being at
40,000 then you would have good movement on one side,
rapid (but full)
movement on the other but when released it
should "center" even though
normally it would be indicating movement to one side.

You can check to see if your calibration data is being
saved by
intentionally miscalibrating the device. Try holding the
X-Y axis in the
center of the upper left quarter and the rudder half way
to one side. When
prompted to move the full range just keep it in the upper
left area and the
half of the rudder you centered in. After calibration if
it actually saved
the data you should see your device report full movement
when moving through
the portion you calibrated above and it should just stay
maxed out if you
move beyond those points.

If you have another system you can try the device there
to see if you get
the same results. If you do you might want to take it to
where you got it
and tell them you suspect it may be faulty and ask if you
can test another
one there to see if you get the same behavior.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights

message
Hi Joshua:
Well, I have run the calibration. But there does not
seem
to be much in the way of actual calibration. Explain,
if I
am wrong.


-----Original Message-----
Have you tried calibrating the controller in the Gaming
Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights

message
Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no
chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double-
clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would
try
it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP
Shell / User
Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor
do I
confer any rights.
____________________________________________________ __
__
_

in
message [email protected]...
| Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help.
Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and
run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB
card
into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With
new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism
settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may
need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB
performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the
joystick
both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP
MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor
do
I
| confer any rights.
|
____________________________________________________ __
__
_
| >
| >"Dennis" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
| message [email protected]...
| >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which
causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right.
Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port,
same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.



.



.


.
 
D

Dennis

Josh:
Your a genius, buddy. Uninstalling the Thrustmaster 4.02
software revealed the calibration screen. I calibrated the
joystick, the flight sims work perfectly. I should have
seen that, must be getting old. Thanks again for the
excellent help and for sticking with me. Now to inform
Thrustmaster.

Dennis
-----Original Message-----
You might want to uninstall the Thrustmaster driver package that you
installed. Virtually every USB joystick that isn't force feedback will work
fine without installing a 3rd party driver package. The very few exceptions
are very old USB devices. Hopefully removing the driver package would give
you the default property page that would give you access to calibration
again. The down side is that you would lose any extra features like
keymapping ability that might be provided by their custom property sheet. If
uninstall doesn't work and you tell me the driver package you installed we
might be able to rip out the custom property sheet by hand (requires
registry editing).

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights



Joshua:
There isn't any calibration screen. I've contacted the
Thrustmaster customer support and they say the device is
defective, however, a like item purchased at the same
time, fails the same way. Both joysticks perform properly
on another system with Window ME. Both perform properly on
another system with Windows XP-home. I've installed
another USB 2.0 PCi card and the joysticks still perform
the same way. The thrustmaster software does not allow any
calibration, just adjustment of dead zone and filtering.
If I change the function of the joystick axis, i.e. allow
x axis to perform z-axis, same result. Fun huh!
-----Original Message-----
Alll game controllers that don't have a replacement Properties page can be
calibrated through the Gaming Options control panel.

1. Connect the device to the system.
2. Start -> Run -> Control Panel
3. Switch to "Classic View".
4. Run the Gaming Options control
5. In Gaming Options Click the "Properties" button.
6. In the controllers "Properties" page select the "Settings" tab.
7. Click the "Calibrate" button.

If the Properties page has been replaced by a 3rd party driver then they
will have to provide their own method to allow you to calibrate, but it
should still be there somewhere.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights


Joshua:
I used another joystick, same kind, purchased at the same
time. It does exactly the same thing. Also, there is no
calibration on this joystick, that I can perceive. it
allows you to test, but no calibration screen.
-----Original Message-----
When you run the calibration in the Game Controllers
panel it asks to have
each axis in turn moved to its min and max positions.
That way if the
controller doesn't have the full range for some reason
then you can still
get corrected data from it. Where this fails is when the
device itself isn't
giving consistent data. For example you have an axis that
reports data from
500 to 55,000. When calibrated DirectInput would take
this range and
interpret it as being 0-65,535. If the device then
started reporting from
1000-46,000 then the calibration data wouldn't be
accurate. The other part
of the calibration asks to center the axis for X, Y and
Rudders. This allows
DirectInput to mark what is considers the center point.
So if the above
device was in bad shape and was reporting 500-55,000 with
center being at
40,000 then you would have good movement on one side,
rapid (but full)
movement on the other but when released it
should "center" even though
normally it would be indicating movement to one side.

You can check to see if your calibration data is being
saved by
intentionally miscalibrating the device. Try holding the
X-Y axis in the
center of the upper left quarter and the rudder half way
to one side. When
prompted to move the full range just keep it in the upper
left area and the
half of the rudder you centered in. After calibration if
it actually saved
the data you should see your device report full movement
when moving through
the portion you calibrated above and it should just stay
maxed out if you
move beyond those points.

If you have another system you can try the device there
to see if you get
the same results. If you do you might want to take it to
where you got it
and tell them you suspect it may be faulty and ask if you
can test another
one there to see if you get the same behavior.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights

message
Hi Joshua:
Well, I have run the calibration. But there does not
seem
to be much in the way of actual calibration. Explain,
if I
am wrong.


-----Original Message-----
Have you tried calibrating the controller in the Gaming
Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights

message
Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no
chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double-
clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would
try
it.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP
Shell / User
Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor
do I
confer any rights.
__________________________________________________
__
__
__
_

in
message [email protected]...
| Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help.
Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and
run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB
card
into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help. With
new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism
settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you may
need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB
performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the
joystick
both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading
it
at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows XP
MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor
do
I
| confer any rights.
|
__________________________________________________
__
__
__
_
| >
| >"Dennis" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
| message [email protected]...
| >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset which
causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right.
Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB port,
same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


.



.



.



.


.
 
J

Joshua Smith [MSFT]

Excellent. I am glad I could help.I guess 5 years of testing joysticks
everyday has paid off :)

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights


Dennis said:
Josh:
Your a genius, buddy. Uninstalling the Thrustmaster 4.02
software revealed the calibration screen. I calibrated the
joystick, the flight sims work perfectly. I should have
seen that, must be getting old. Thanks again for the
excellent help and for sticking with me. Now to inform
Thrustmaster.

Dennis
-----Original Message-----
You might want to uninstall the Thrustmaster driver package that you
installed. Virtually every USB joystick that isn't force feedback will work
fine without installing a 3rd party driver package. The very few exceptions
are very old USB devices. Hopefully removing the driver package would give
you the default property page that would give you access to calibration
again. The down side is that you would lose any extra features like
keymapping ability that might be provided by their custom property sheet. If
uninstall doesn't work and you tell me the driver package you installed we
might be able to rip out the custom property sheet by hand (requires
registry editing).

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights



Joshua:
There isn't any calibration screen. I've contacted the
Thrustmaster customer support and they say the device is
defective, however, a like item purchased at the same
time, fails the same way. Both joysticks perform properly
on another system with Window ME. Both perform properly on
another system with Windows XP-home. I've installed
another USB 2.0 PCi card and the joysticks still perform
the same way. The thrustmaster software does not allow any
calibration, just adjustment of dead zone and filtering.
If I change the function of the joystick axis, i.e. allow
x axis to perform z-axis, same result. Fun huh!
-----Original Message-----
Alll game controllers that don't have a replacement
Properties page can be
calibrated through the Gaming Options control panel.

1. Connect the device to the system.
2. Start -> Run -> Control Panel
3. Switch to "Classic View".
4. Run the Gaming Options control
5. In Gaming Options Click the "Properties" button.
6. In the controllers "Properties" page select
the "Settings" tab.
7. Click the "Calibrate" button.

If the Properties page has been replaced by a 3rd party
driver then they
will have to provide their own method to allow you to
calibrate, but it
should still be there somewhere.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights


message
Joshua:
I used another joystick, same kind, purchased at the
same
time. It does exactly the same thing. Also, there is no
calibration on this joystick, that I can perceive. it
allows you to test, but no calibration screen.
-----Original Message-----
When you run the calibration in the Game Controllers
panel it asks to have
each axis in turn moved to its min and max positions.
That way if the
controller doesn't have the full range for some reason
then you can still
get corrected data from it. Where this fails is when the
device itself isn't
giving consistent data. For example you have an axis
that
reports data from
500 to 55,000. When calibrated DirectInput would take
this range and
interpret it as being 0-65,535. If the device then
started reporting from
1000-46,000 then the calibration data wouldn't be
accurate. The other part
of the calibration asks to center the axis for X, Y and
Rudders. This allows
DirectInput to mark what is considers the center point.
So if the above
device was in bad shape and was reporting 500-55,000
with
center being at
40,000 then you would have good movement on one side,
rapid (but full)
movement on the other but when released it
should "center" even though
normally it would be indicating movement to one side.

You can check to see if your calibration data is being
saved by
intentionally miscalibrating the device. Try holding the
X-Y axis in the
center of the upper left quarter and the rudder half way
to one side. When
prompted to move the full range just keep it in the
upper
left area and the
half of the rudder you centered in. After calibration if
it actually saved
the data you should see your device report full movement
when moving through
the portion you calibrated above and it should just stay
maxed out if you
move beyond those points.

If you have another system you can try the device there
to see if you get
the same results. If you do you might want to take it to
where you got it
and tell them you suspect it may be faulty and ask if
you
can test another
one there to see if you get the same behavior.

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights

message
Hi Joshua:
Well, I have run the calibration. But there does not
seem
to be much in the way of actual calibration. Explain,
if I
am wrong.


-----Original Message-----
Have you tried calibrating the controller in the
Gaming
Options control
panel?

Joshua Smith
DirectInput and OpenGL Test Labs
Microsoft
-----
Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights

in
message
Hi Jimmy:
Yes, I've done that many times when I was working.
Unfortunately, this is a four year old dell, no
chipset
updates are available.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Dennis,

Updating the chipset drivers is as easy as double-
clicking
the .exe file after you have downloaded it. I would
try
it.

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Cheers, Windows XP
MVP
Shell / User
Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Game FAQs:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor
do I
confer any rights.
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in
message [email protected]...
| Thanks Jimmy,
| Have tried to lower realism settings, but no help.
Also,
| tried to load the profile software at startup and
run
| without, no help. Also, installed new 5 port USB
card
into
| PCI slot and run joystick from that. No help.
With
new
| USB card, do I still need to update chipset?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi Dennis,
| >
| >Sometimes turning off (or lowering) the realism
settings
| in FS
| >will help remedy such situations, otherwise you
may
need
| to
| >update your chipset drivers for better USB
performance,
| and
| >then reinstall the Joystick. Try using the
joystick
both
| with and
| >without using the profile software or loading it
at
| startup as well.
| >
| >--
| >Cheers, Windows
XP
MVP
| Shell / User
| >Jimmy S.
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| >Game FAQs:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=FH;[LN];gms
| >Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
| http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
| >MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=sz;en-us;top
| >My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty;
nor
do
I
| confer any rights.
|
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| >
| >"Dennis" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
| message [email protected]...
| >| Recently purchased a Thrustmaster topgun fox
USB
| Joystick.
| >| Joystick z-axis is centered but has offset
which
causes
| >| flight simulator rudder offset to the right.
Joystick
| >| works in another system. Installed new USB
port,
same
| >| problem. Any ideas
| >
| >
| >.
| >


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