Java Problem

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boggy333

For some strange reason (I can't remember why) I uninstalled the 'Java
Runtime Environment' from my Windows XP Home PC.

Now when I go to websites that use Java, I get a prompt telling me that 'to
display this page correctly you need to download and install Java Virtual
Machine'.

I click the Download Now button and it takes me here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/getosver/javaxp.asp

where I am told:

We're sorry, you cannot view this page because it requires the Microsoft
Java Virtual Machine (MSJVM). Your machine does not have the MSJVM
installed. For more information please visit www.microsoft.com/java.

I eventually find myself here:

http://www.java.com/en/index.jsp

where I proceed to download the Java software, but it doesn't fix the
problem..

I have tried this a few times now since I made the mistake of removing Java
a few months ago - always the same result. I have tried going back in time
by using a Restore point (the removal of the Java is in the Restore
calendar), but the restore fails each time.

Any ideas?

Is there anyway I can reinstall/repair the Windows installation without
risking the data on my machine?

Thanks.
 
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Edward W. Thompson

MSjava is no longer available or supported by MS. I suggest you completely
unload it and load Sun Java. You can search for Java on Google and you will
find plenty of advice on how to remove MSJava or search for the MS Java
removal tool (unmsjvm.exe) and use that. Once you have removed MSJava you
can now load Sun Java that can be downloaded from the Sun Java site.
 
B

boggy333

Edward, thanks for the reply, but read my post again - what are are
suggesting as a solution is exactly what I have done!
 
J

JerryMouse

boggy333 said:
For some strange reason (I can't remember why) I uninstalled the 'Java
Runtime Environment' from my Windows XP Home PC.

Now when I go to websites that use Java, I get a prompt telling me
that 'to display this page correctly you need to download and install
Java Virtual Machine'.

A polite note to the webmaster at the offending sites encouraging him to
remove Java is probably in order. Java is for toasters.
 
J

Jim Byrd

Hi Boggy - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm


There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Dec 31, 2007, MS will apparently no longer be
distributing Java or providing any support for Java including security
fixes. See here: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ so you might want
to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using the
dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java plug-in
here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3809 prior to upgrading to v.
3810 if you didn't previous have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809 installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and install
the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here:
http://www.download.support.safetec.net/msjavx86/msjavx86.exe
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/msjavx86.exe


For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or here:
http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 ,or here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m...l/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.exe

For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810 from Microsoft here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now have to get Q816093 from
Windows Update Catalog - use the entry for Windows 2000 SP4 (this seems to
be the only Win2k option that has it) and then find 816093 in the list. You
can find directions for using the Windows Update Catalog functions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;323166. (I am
informed by Torgeir Bakken, MVP, that if you rename the downloaded file from
here: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 to
msjavwu.exe it will then also work for SP4.)

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select which
one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart all IE
browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a tiny utility
which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/index.html

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility: If/when you install a new
version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually
select to have Sun JVM as default JVM for IE (in install), or after install
via the JavaPlugin control panel. This generates the necessary win32
registry entries, which must be present for the utility to know about
JavaPlugin. After that, the utility should work properly."

--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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