jaggies in pie charts

[Guest]

how do you get rid of jaggies in 3d pie charts? (whats happening is that they are being printed at screen resolution even though I'm printing to a much higher resolution printer) - tried options from tools menu; print tab; checkmark nest to print inserted objects at printer resolution this did NOT work - any work arounds?
Thanks

 

[John Langhans [MSFT]]

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Hello,

This is known limitation of thw way that Excel and Graph create the picture
of a chart when embedded/linked inside of a container (such a PowerPoint
presentation).

Here's a KB article with some suggested workarounds:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=123342

John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
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Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
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[Guest]

The problem occurs not only with 3D pies but with pies that have any sort of
gradient fill as well. The "Print inserted objects at printer's resolution"
toggle, found on the "Print" tab in "Tools" "Options" does not fix this
problem in PowerPoint 2003, though it did in PowerPoint 2000. Why this
functionality has not been carried forward in the latest version of
PowerPoint is beyond me. Our department's fix has been to retain a PC with
PowerPoint 2000 from which a PRN file can be created; this PRN file prints
with no problem as long as it's created using PowerPoint 2000.

Thanks for the knowledge base link. The link says that this problem does not occur in mac versions of powerpoint, however, it does. The workarounds suggested are not realistic for my clients with a limited knowledge of powerpoint to emmulate. Is there any other way to get rid of the jaggy edges in 3-D pie charts? Thanks very much!

[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]
[TOP ISSUE - Are you having difficulty opening presentations in PowerPoint
that you just created (you can save, but not open)? -
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=329820]

Hello,

This is known limitation of thw way that Excel and Graph create the picture
of a chart when embedded/linked inside of a container (such a PowerPoint
presentation).

Here's a KB article with some suggested workarounds:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=123342

John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows

For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
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[Steve Rindsberg]

The problem occurs not only with 3D pies but with pies that have any sort of
gradient fill as well.

O blast, you're absolutely right. This is ugly. Thanks for reporting it ... I'll
pass it up the line. Wish I had an answer or workaround, but I don't.

FWIW, at least it doesn't appear to happen on a computer where 2003's been
installed alongside of 2000. You may not need a second box to make this work.

 

[Guest]

Reloading PPT 2000 is a great suggestion, except that XP won't support the
2000 suite, so in our situation it won't work. But I appreciate your
checking this out and your suggestion! I'll check back to see if you've found
anything out.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Reloading PPT 2000 is a great suggestion, except that XP won't support the
2000 suite, so in our situation it won't work.

XP what? Windows XP certainly supports Office 2000. If you've got a spare PC and it's
no problem to keep an isolated copy of Office 2000 there, go for it; that's certainly
the best/most reliable way to fly. But if you install Office 2000 then 2002, you can
have them both on one PC running Windows 2000, XP, etc.

 

[Guest]

Hi Steve - here's the latest (and you're correct, I was premature about XP
not supporting Office 2000). Our IT people tried four different
combinations: 1) Powerpoint 2003 with an XP OS; 2) Powerpoint 2003 with a
2000 OS; 3) Powerpoint 2000 with an XP OS; 4) Powerpoint 2000 with a 2000 OS.
All pies printed with jagged edges EXCEPT for the last one, PPT 2000 with a
2000 OS. I'm at a loss. I've looked into this a bit, and it seems tweaking
print-driver settings doesn't make a difference either. Your thoughts?

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Hi Steve - here's the latest (and you're correct, I was premature about XP
not supporting Office 2000). Our IT people tried four different
combinations: 1) Powerpoint 2003 with an XP OS; 2) Powerpoint 2003 with a
2000 OS; 3) Powerpoint 2000 with an XP OS; 4) Powerpoint 2000 with a 2000 OS.
All pies printed with jagged edges EXCEPT for the last one, PPT 2000 with a
2000 OS. I'm at a loss. I've looked into this a bit, and it seems tweaking
print-driver settings doesn't make a difference either. Your thoughts?

I don't have an XP/PPT2000 system to test this on but hey, it's kinda hard to miss when it
bites you. I'm happy to take your word ... as to why, I wonder if it's a GDI+ issue? Parts
of the GDI graphic subsystem in Windows have been replaced with GDI+ and it seems that the
effects of that on PPT haven't all been happy ones.

It won't be printer driver related, I can all but promise that. Last night I tried this
with four different printer drivers, two PostScript, two non-PS. The result is identical.
In fact, if you zoom in real close on the chart in PPT itself, you can see the bumps around
the edge of the pie. They'll appear in exactly the same places on your printed output.

I've kicked it upstairs, but my guess is that it's just plain busted, and busted as a result
of changes deeper in Windows (that the PPT devs don't have control over). Net: I'd hang
onto that Win2000/PPT2000 system for dear life. I doubt this'll get fixed in the near term.
Disclaimer: That's just my own guess; I'm not speaking for MS (don't work for 'em, can't
speak for 'em) or repeating anything I've heard from anyone there.

Thanks very much for posting this info and please pass along our thanks to your IT folks for
their research. I'm off to see if I can find someplace on the FAQ to store it so others can
benefit.

Ah. Here:

JAGGIES in pie charts
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00066.htm

 

[Guest]

Steve and others,

I posted (first time poster) a similar question on Excel charts printed out
from Powerpoint 2003. This is so infuriating.

Has there been any movement at all since Steve's last post? Is there now a
fix for 2003 that would alleviate the problem?

Thank you

Christophe

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Steve and others,

I posted (first time poster) a similar question on Excel charts printed out
from Powerpoint 2003. This is so infuriating.

Has there been any movement at all since Steve's last post? Is there now a
fix for 2003 that would alleviate the problem?

None that I'm aware of. Here's hoping that somebody else is more aware than I!