Is Win XP OEM version ok - advice please

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trk

Hi,
I am thinking of upgrading from Win 98SE to Windows XP.
At the same time I will replace my hard drive (but keep the win 98 hard
drive as a back up "just in case")
I am being told, that if I purchase a new hard drive I am entitled to
purchase an OEM version of XP (much cheaper)
Does that sound feasible, and would I lose any functionality by buying an
OEM version (my 98se was OEM when it came with the new computer and seems to
have all the functionality that I need).
I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks
Trevor
 
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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

trk said:
Hi,
I am thinking of upgrading from Win 98SE to Windows XP.
At the same time I will replace my hard drive (but keep the win 98 hard
drive as a back up "just in case")
I am being told, that if I purchase a new hard drive I am entitled to
purchase an OEM version of XP (much cheaper)
Does that sound feasible, and would I lose any functionality by buying an
OEM version (my 98se was OEM when it came with the new computer and seems to
have all the functionality that I need).
I would appreciate any advice.

Trevor,

You cannot upgrade using an OEM copy - you will only be able to install to a
clean hard drive.
You also get no support from Microsoft (you can still download updates etc),
but you must call the OEM (the company that sells you the OEM product) for
support.
There are other restrictions on an OEM product, such as it being tied to the
first machine it is installed to. This is one time use licenses so if you
later decide to replace that machine with another you are not entitled to
move that copy of Windows XP to the new machine.

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Mike
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Michael Cecil

Hi,
I am thinking of upgrading from Win 98SE to Windows XP.
At the same time I will replace my hard drive (but keep the win 98 hard
drive as a back up "just in case")
I am being told, that if I purchase a new hard drive I am entitled to
purchase an OEM version of XP (much cheaper)
Does that sound feasible, and would I lose any functionality by buying an
OEM version (my 98se was OEM when it came with the new computer and seems to
have all the functionality that I need).
I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks
Trevor

There is no difference code-wise between the OEM and retail versions. You
just lose the MS support since, normally, the OEM would provide the
support. No great loss. Learn how to Google for answers. :)
 
M

Melissa

trk said:
Hi,
I am thinking of upgrading from Win 98SE to Windows XP.
At the same time I will replace my hard drive (but keep the win 98 hard
drive as a back up "just in case")
I am being told, that if I purchase a new hard drive I am entitled to
purchase an OEM version of XP (much cheaper)
Does that sound feasible, and would I lose any functionality by buying an
OEM version (my 98se was OEM when it came with the new computer and seems to
have all the functionality that I need).
I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks
Trevor
You may not be able to do a repair install with an OEM version, so any
re-install would have to be complete -- as in back up everything first.
 
M

Melissa

Bob said:
He is buying a new hard drive; I believe his plans are doing a fresh install.

The OEM version can do a repair reinstall; I have done it many of times.
Enough times that the phone activation personal knows my voice.

Like the first message says, "No tech support from MS" and "Can't transfer to a different computer."

Not to argue the point, but it depends on the OEM verson. Not all can
do a repair install. Mine can't and I've seen it on other boards
regarding brands other than mine. I wish I had your OEM version :)
 
G

Guest

Since when does MS provide support on non-OEM Windows? This is totally new concept to me! Is this for real? WHat is the level/breadth of support given?
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an installed OEM license
is to transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand/model of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are often severely customized to contain only the
minimum of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the
manufacturer feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which
the CD was designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be
available on the open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like
eBay, eastern European web sites, swap meets, or computer fairs,
there's often no telling what you're buying until it's too late.) The
"generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by Microsoft and sold to
small systems builders, don't have this particular problem, though,
and are pretty much the same as their retail counterparts, apart from
the licensing, support, and upgrading restrictions.


Bruce Chambers

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Ron Martell

Not to argue the point, but it depends on the OEM verson. Not all can
do a repair install. Mine can't and I've seen it on other boards
regarding brands other than mine. I wish I had your OEM version :)

OEM versions supplied with major brand computers will usually include
a "system recovery" CD or perhaps no CD at all, just a hidden system
recovery partition on the hard drive. In these circumstances a
repair install is usually not possible.

A generic OEM version, which is what Microsoft supplies to small
manufacturers and assemblers, is a complete installation CD with a
modified setup program so that it will not do an upgrade of a previous
version of Windows. These CDs have the Microsoft name on them and do
not have the name or logo of the computer manufacturer/assembler.
This is the version that is often purchased in a retail store bundled
with hardware. There is no problem doing a Repair Install with this
type of OEM disk.

See http://onlinehelp.bc.ca/oem_software.htm for more information
about OEM software.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

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