Is this illegal ??

[Yildizhan]

I have downloaded the new Vista version from microsoft's website. And i
havent recieved a product key yet.

I have lost my own serial key from the first Beta version :-(

Is it illegal to use a pirated serialnumber ??

Or are there any way to get my own product key sent again ??

I know i can install it without a key .....but its only works for 2 weeks.

 

[Guest]

I think you answered your own question when you mentioned the work "pirated"

 

[Sascha Benjamin Jazbec]

I have lost my own serial key from the first Beta version :-(

Is it illegal to use a pirated serialnumber ??

Or are there any way to get my own product key sent again ??

I know i can install it without a key .....but its only works for 2 weeks.

A pirated / leaked PID will also only work 14 days, because it is
blacklisted, when too many users have tried to activate their Copies.

You need a legit and personal PIS given you from Microsoft. Otherwise you
never can activate the Vista Beta/RC.

Microsoft will reopen the registration portal soon where you can apply for a
Key.

If you cannot wait that long than have a look at a Bookshop.
Microsoft Press has released a Book on Windows Vista.This Book contains a
Beta2 Disk together with a legit Key.It's not that expensive. ( ~20 Euros )

SBJ.

 

[Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin]]

No its not, it will expire in 14 days. I suggest you sign up for the CPP
when it reopens soon for continued use.

 

[Dirk-Thomas Brown]

If you have beta 2 still running use a key finder program to grab the key
then use it for RC1.

Dirk-Thomas

 

[jonah]

I have downloaded the new Vista version from microsoft's website. And i
havent recieved a product key yet.

I have lost my own serial key from the first Beta version :-(

Is it illegal to use a pirated serialnumber ??

Or are there any way to get my own product key sent again ??

I know i can install it without a key .....but its only works for 2 weeks.

Well yes a true pirated key would be illegal and would probably not
activate anyway but if you "borrowed" a legal key from a friend then
you could install Vista with that key and it would be only technically
illegal. Vista Beta Keys can be used to install / activate 10 times,
and Vista is a "free" download for testing purposes. If you cannot get
your original key back from Microsoft (did you search your hotmail
account for it?).

Doing it this way is not strictly legal but before I get flamed the
issue would have to be tested in a court of law and I can't see any
court in the world bothering with the issue of Vista Beta keys not,
even in California where even the pets have lawyers......hmmmm maybe.

Lets put it this way I doubt MSFT would waste time and money on
chasing people using RC1 with a dodgy key, which they give away freely
and actively want people to use in the first place.

Jonah

 

[Mario Rosario]

Couldn't anyone just copy the key without buying the book?

 

[Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin]]

But suppose its hard coded?

 

[Chad Harris]

The outcome isn't in yet,for you and most naive people think some law on
piracy applies to Betas that are sales tools that are given to the public.
Believe me whatever MSFT has on their legal plates to pursue, this ain't
makin' the cut. They are a little more concerned about their ongoing
financial hemorrhage in the European Union and the European Unions reaction
to many other aspects of future sales.

As Colin Barnhorst ponited and others have pointed out, you will have 14
days to supply a legit MSFT product key for RC1 and within that time frame,
they will post it or in your case an email (they have been staggered should
arive with the PK.

That would make your issue moot.

CH

 

[Chad Harris]

The attorney who heads up Piracy, Associate General Counsel Nancy Anderson
and her little elves, ain't lookin' to litigate the Beta lol but as people
have pointed out, a bogus key would probably be found after you installed
and you would be prompted to supply a legit key. I don't know what the fuss
is about, since it is clear that everyone is going to have access to a key
in the very near future.

What would occur first (before you'd seen any litigation over Beta keys lol
or the Beta which (you have to be on a nother planet if you believe that the
Beta is out there for anything but a sales tool--they are openly hostile to
feedback from the public and deny access to bugs on Connect) would be Nancy
parading around Seattle with a tanktop saying "Buy Windoz Vista--it rocks
and it be real more better than XP."

I understand that if people can download and install RC1 they will now, and
whatever gets m ore people using Vista, critiquing it and learning it more
completely is good for all of us.

The major way MSFT is explaining and promoting what they're shoving out the
door and yeah I'm drilling RC1--device manager still isn't reliable for
Drivers after 10 years--maybe in 20 or 30, is to say "Vista rocks." There
still is the false statement that "this driver is working properly" whether
it is or it isn't. It's been that way since the Windows 95 launch August
25, 1995 and it will be that way on the Vista Launch January 30, 2007.

The device teams and teams who deal with drivers offer no appologies for
this incompetency--they just revel in it.

The slogan "vista rocks" is very sophisticated and meets any software
engineering critera imaginable if you're Redmond MSFT.

CH

 

[deebs]

I suppose the short answer is: would you put it on a resume in the next
job application?

 

[Mother Tarisa]

The outcome isn't in yet,for you and most naive people think some law on
piracy applies to Betas that are sales tools that are given to the
public. Believe me whatever MSFT has on their legal plates to pursue,
this ain't makin' the cut. They are a little more concerned about their
ongoing financial hemorrhage in the European Union and the European
Unions reaction to many other aspects of future sales.

As Colin Barnhorst ponited and others have pointed out, you will have 14
days to supply a legit MSFT product key for RC1 and within that time
frame, they will post it or in your case an email (they have been
staggered should arive with the PK.

That would make your issue moot.

CH

It's not illegal, because MSFT is not an authority able to make laws
regarding this. Is in fact a contract dispute most likely because it
probably violates the EULA. MSFT would have to try to uphold your
violation of the EULA by taking you to court.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

He can use SIW http://www.gtopala.com/about_siw.html to get the key from
5384 x86. It is listed by clicking on the Software/Secrets link in the
folder pane. SIW does not reveal the 5384 x64 key and does not yet report
keys when run under RC1.

 

[MICHAEL]

Colin, SIW does work in RC1 and shows my Vista key and
Office 2003 Pro key. I'm using version 1.62, build 614.

It works on both my RC1 installations.


-Michael

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

No, it doesn't. But it doesn't have to in this scenario. The user needs to
get the key while 5384 is still running and then use the key when installing
RC1.

 

[MICHAEL]

WTF you talking about? SIW is open right now on this
Vista x86 RC1 machine and I'm looking at my fuking
Vista key.

 

[Guest]

SIW 1.62 shows the keys under "Software/Secrets"
SIW 1.63 shows the keys under "Software/Licenses"
SIW works with Vista x32, I don't know if it works with Vista x64.

 

[Guest]

SIW 1.62 shows the keys under "Software/Secrets"
SIW 1.63 shows the keys under "Software/License"

SIW works in Vista x32, I don't know if it works in x64.

 

[MICHAEL]

Gabriel, thank you for the very useful software
you have given people to use. It comes in quite
handy. Thanks.

Take care,

Michael

 

[The Raz]

if you ordered the DVD in Snail mail the regkey from that DVD will
work on any downloaded version of Vista !!!!