IS THIS CORRECT??? ASUS A7N8X Deluxe + benchmark with AIDA32

S

Shogun

I am wondering if my mainboard is using the full capability of the 400 MHZ
DDR modules which i have placed in the sockets 2 + 3, type 2 x 512 DDRAM 400
MHz VDATA.


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Asus A7N8X Deluxe/Gold Rev. 1.02 (28-01-2003) (333 MHz FSB)
AMD Athlon XP 3000+
2 x 512 VDATA DDRAM PC3200 400 MHZ
Asus V9280 TD GeForce Ti 4200-8x 128 DDRAM
Iiyama S701 GT Vision Master 400

Operating System: XP Professional UK
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According to the result measured with AIDA32 i got this results:

Benchmark Memory Read: 920 MB/s
Benchmark Memory Write: 2223 MB/s

Is this not dramatically bad? According to the manual:

PC3200 / PC2700 DDR Support:

Equipped with three Double Data Rate Dual Inline Memory Module (DDR DIMM)
sockets to support up to 3GB of DDR DRAM, the newest memory standard with
the highest bandwidth and lowest latency currently available. This new
memory technology supplies data transfer rates up to 6.4 GB/s for 400MHz DDR
SDRAM and 5.4GB/s for 333MHZ DDR SDRAM

If i reas this well, the benchmark made by AIDA32 gives a worse view of it
or do i have to read it in an other way? I did expect something of 6 GB/s
but this sucks!

Please give me your advice and tell me what to do or what to change etc.
 
S

Shogun

benchmark Athlon XP 1.7 GHz and Abit KX7-333 KT333 PC2900
DDR SDRAM is 2480 MB!!! This is unbelievable, my memory sucks???
 
E

Ed

I am wondering if my mainboard is using the full capability of the 400 MHZ
DDR modules which i have placed in the sockets 2 + 3, type 2 x 512 DDRAM 400
MHz VDATA.


============================================================
Asus A7N8X Deluxe/Gold Rev. 1.02 (28-01-2003) (333 MHz FSB)
AMD Athlon XP 3000+
2 x 512 VDATA DDRAM PC3200 400 MHZ
Asus V9280 TD GeForce Ti 4200-8x 128 DDRAM
Iiyama S701 GT Vision Master 400

Operating System: XP Professional UK
============================================================


According to the result measured with AIDA32 i got this results:

Benchmark Memory Read: 920 MB/s
Benchmark Memory Write: 2223 MB/s

Is this not dramatically bad? According to the manual:

PC3200 / PC2700 DDR Support:

Equipped with three Double Data Rate Dual Inline Memory Module (DDR DIMM)
sockets to support up to 3GB of DDR DRAM, the newest memory standard with
the highest bandwidth and lowest latency currently available. This new
memory technology supplies data transfer rates up to 6.4 GB/s for 400MHz DDR
SDRAM and 5.4GB/s for 333MHZ DDR SDRAM

If i reas this well, the benchmark made by AIDA32 gives a worse view of it
or do i have to read it in an other way? I did expect something of 6 GB/s
but this sucks!

Please give me your advice and tell me what to do or what to change etc.


Well that 2223 surely can't be right, AIDA (v3.88) shows an Athlon64 FX
and the 3GHz P4 only scoring 1750.

Have you tried other benchmarks like Sisoft Sandra, PCMark2002,
Passmark, etc,etc?

Maybe you have a program running in the background that's screwing with
you?

Ed
 
M

Martin

No solution or advice, just a confirmation of those speeds. I was around the
same speeds as you. Yesterday I set the Bios to 'agressive'. That mode gives
me the highest speeds:
read: 995 MB/s
write: 2465 MB/s

Using:
2x256 MB Corsair Value Select DDR 400
AMD 2800+

I'm a bit disappointed in the speeds too. In the listing of AIDA32 I'm in
between systems using PC2700 memory... But I have the feeling that, as the
processor can't get higher then 333Mhz, the memory won't either (even when
it's capable to do so).
 
M

Martin

We both have the read/write mixed up ;-):
AIDA gives me:
Read: 2456
Write: 995

Using:
2x256 MB Corsair Value Select DDR 400
AMD 2800+

(latest) Bios on 'agressive' mode...
 
S

Shogun

Maybe but what programs should it be?

I had when using AIDA32 running several programs in the background, like
NAV, ICQ, MSN, Ad-Watch, Media Jukebox, Outlook Express and Internet
Explorer. Maybe this could be an important factor?
 
E

Ed

No solution or advice, just a confirmation of those speeds. I was around the
same speeds as you. Yesterday I set the Bios to 'agressive'. That mode gives
me the highest speeds:
read: 995 MB/s
write: 2465 MB/s

Using:
2x256 MB Corsair Value Select DDR 400
AMD 2800+

I'm a bit disappointed in the speeds too. In the listing of AIDA32 I'm in
between systems using PC2700 memory... But I have the feeling that, as the
processor can't get higher then 333Mhz, the memory won't either (even when
it's capable to do so).

With a Barton @ 3200+ (DDR 400) I just scored 3033/1132 in AIDA v3.88,
it's just a hair faster then what they show for the 3200+.

A7N8X v2.0 (non-dlx)
Aggressive enabled.

Ed
 
E

Ed

Maybe but what programs should it be?

I had when using AIDA32 running several programs in the background, like
NAV, ICQ, MSN, Ad-Watch, Media Jukebox, Outlook Express and Internet
Explorer. Maybe this could be an important factor?

It's probably best not to have anything at all running when
benchmarking, but actually if you compare your scores to AIDA examples I
don't think your that far off the mark, Like Martin said, you posted the
read/write backwards, sure got me on that one! ;p
Ed
 
E

Ed

How did you set that up in the BIOS? Could you be more specific?

Look in the A7N8X ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES

CPU Interface [Optimal] or [Aggressive]

Won't be much but it does give ya a little boost, I've had mine set to
aggressive since day 1, about 7 months now, still stable as a rock.

Ed
 
M

Martin

I closed everything down when doing my tests. But it doesn't make a lot of
difference. With lots of programs running I'm now getting:
read: 2413
write: 977
 
E

Ed

I closed everything down when doing my tests. But it doesn't make a lot of
difference. With lots of programs running I'm now getting:
read: 2413
write: 977


AIDA shows 2450/980 for a A7N8X/PC2700 in dually mode.
Ed
 
D

Doug Ramage

Ed said:
AIDA shows 2450/980 for a A7N8X/PC2700 in dually mode.
Ed

My highest readings were around:

Reads : 2820
Writes : 1100

But system was not too stable.

Currently: 2705

Reads : 1074

Both Dual Channel Mode.

System is Asus A7N8X dx (rev 1.04) with Uber 1004 BIOS, XP2100 (clocked to
2.22Ghz) and 1Gb TwinMOS PC3200 RAM.
 
B

Ben Pope

Shogun said:
I am wondering if my mainboard is using the full capability of the 400 MHZ
DDR modules which i have placed in the sockets 2 + 3, type 2 x 512 DDRAM
400 MHz VDATA.


============================================================
Asus A7N8X Deluxe/Gold Rev. 1.02 (28-01-2003) (333 MHz FSB)
AMD Athlon XP 3000+
2 x 512 VDATA DDRAM PC3200 400 MHZ
Asus V9280 TD GeForce Ti 4200-8x 128 DDRAM
Iiyama S701 GT Vision Master 400

Operating System: XP Professional UK
============================================================


According to the result measured with AIDA32 i got this results:

Benchmark Memory Read: 920 MB/s
Benchmark Memory Write: 2223 MB/s

Is this not dramatically bad? According to the manual:

Well with Corsair 3200LL at 5-2-2-2, 166MHz I get:
Read: 2515 MB/s
Write: 927 MB/s

So I think you have your numbers reversed, but other than that they look ok.
I take it they're running at 166MHz.

Ben
 
S

Shogun

But it is far from what the manual says about their high benchmark scores!
So i think we are screwed by ASUS?
 
S

Shogun

Doug Ramage said:
My highest readings were around:

Reads : 2820
Writes : 1100

But system was not too stable.

Currently: 2705

Reads : 1074

Both Dual Channel Mode.

System is Asus A7N8X dx (rev 1.04) with Uber 1004 BIOS, XP2100 (clocked to
2.22Ghz) and 1Gb TwinMOS PC3200 RAM.

Gosh!! Your system was not stable? What about it was? Man that is much
higher than Martin and i can get!!! And YOU got a XP 2100 and we subs. a
XP2800 and a XP3000+ !!!!!
So you shold think we must had better much better reslults than you could
get .... So question is now HOW to solve this???
 
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Ben Pope

Shogun said:
But it is far from what the manual says about their high benchmark scores!
So i think we are screwed by ASUS?

Oh well for a start, you can halve the numbers... Dual Channel doesn't
really get worked in this type of benchmark, as all the data has to go
across the FSB, restricting bandwidth to that of the FSB. So at 200MHz,
you're looking at 3.2GB/s, now take off 10-15% becuase you can rarely
acheive 100% bus loading and the numbers don't look too bad.

Ben
 
M

Martin

Plus I'm not running on 200 Mhz, but 166 Mhz.
When I put the memory on 200 Mhz (by choosing 'optimal' and 'by SPD' in the
BIOS, I'm getting lower memory speeds then when I put the BIOS on
'agressive', 166 Mhz.
 
B

Ben Pope

Martin said:
Plus I'm not running on 200 Mhz, but 166 Mhz.
When I put the memory on 200 Mhz (by choosing 'optimal' and 'by SPD' in
the BIOS, I'm getting lower memory speeds then when I put the BIOS on
'agressive', 166 Mhz.

Oh well in that case you've got 2.7GB/s less 10-15% ~2.4GB/s, still a little
higher than what you've got, what timings are you using?

Ben
 

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