Is this a balanced system

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Simon-Pierre

Hi all
Im going to be building a a new system for the start of college, and its not
just going to be used for ms word, ill have plenty of time on the weekends
to play the hottest games. Since im a student and all, i have a limitited
budget so ive done alot of research, and ive found that the following is
exactly what i want for parts, and features.its actually a pretty awsome
machine but future proofed since i dont upgrade or buy a new pc untill 3
years or so. The one question is, is the radeon 9600 pro too much for my
system?, since its the most expensive part of the computer. In your opinion
is the system balanced or unbalanced with the 9600 pro card. is the
videocard usually the most expensive in a medium end system. I personally
think that for the same money a better 3d card and worse cpu has a better
performance then vice versa, but im not sure and would like some feedback
Canadian pricing(specific parts and pricing)
ATI(or sapphire) Radeon 9600 Pro 128Mb [TV Out] $ 285.84
AMD Athlon XP 2500+ [333] *Retail Box* 512K $ 145.6
Asus A7N8X (5PCI) NForce2ST [Socket A] $ 151.84
Geil 256Mb DDR PC3200 [400] $ 149.76
Maxtor 80Gb ATA133 [7200RPM] $ 125.84
Antec Sonata [380W] Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower $ 172.89
Samsung 763MB 17in .20dp(H)1280x1024@65H*Black* $ 266.55
Recorder LG 52x/24x/52x *Black* $ 62.92
DVD-Rom Liteon 16X DVD *Black* $ 51.07
 
S

Strontium

Is that Canadian?

To OP: Get the 9700non pro.

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JAD stood up, at show-n-tell, and said:
1110854 ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB AGP(8X) W/DVI & TV-OUT (Retail)
Detail Specs $161.54

where are you going to school live? That particular price seemed
high so i shopped my vender.

Simon-Pierre said:
Hi all
Im going to be building a a new system for the start of college, and
its not just going to be used for ms word, ill have plenty of time
on the weekends to play the hottest games. Since im a student and
all, i have a limitited budget so ive done alot of research, and ive
found that the following is exactly what i want for parts, and
features.its actually a pretty awsome machine but future proofed
since i dont upgrade or buy a new pc untill 3 years or so. The one
question is, is the radeon 9600 pro too much for my system?, since
its the most expensive part of the computer. In your opinion is the
system balanced or unbalanced with the 9600 pro card. is the
videocard usually the most expensive in a medium end system. I
personally think that for the same money a better 3d card and worse
cpu has a better performance then vice versa, but im not sure and
would like some feedback Canadian pricing(specific parts and
pricing)
ATI(or sapphire) Radeon 9600 Pro 128Mb [TV Out] $ 285.84
AMD Athlon XP 2500+ [333] *Retail Box* 512K $ 145.6
Asus A7N8X (5PCI) NForce2ST [Socket A] $ 151.84
Geil 256Mb DDR PC3200 [400] $ 149.76
Maxtor 80Gb ATA133 [7200RPM] $ 125.84
Antec Sonata [380W] Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower $ 172.89
Samsung 763MB 17in .20dp(H)1280x1024@65H*Black* $ 266.55
Recorder LG 52x/24x/52x *Black* $ 62.92
DVD-Rom Liteon 16X DVD *Black* $ 51.07
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B

bongdaddyboo

Simon-Pierre said:
Antec Sonata [380W] Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower $ 172.89
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Although it's ridiculously quiet (which is a good thing), you'll also find
that case can sometimes get nice and toasty. I did have one and my computer
room's in a fairly warm environment, and after about an hour or so of gaming
on something nice and intensive like Delta Force: Black Hawk down on my
system, the video card sometimes got a bit warm and crashed the system.

I ended up replacing the Sonata with a Coolermaster ATCS-201 SX2 which has
bloody good airflow through the case, and although it's a bit noisier than
the Sonata, the machine hasn't crashed during a mega gaming session.

Your mileage may vary though.
 
J

J.Clarke

Simon-Pierre said:
Antec Sonata [380W] Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower $ 172.89
Click to expand...

Although it's ridiculously quiet (which is a good thing), you'll also
find that case can sometimes get nice and toasty. I did have one and
my computer room's in a fairly warm environment, and after about an
hour or so of gaming on something nice and intensive like Delta Force:
Black Hawk down on my system, the video card sometimes got a bit warm
and crashed the system.

I ended up replacing the Sonata with a Coolermaster ATCS-201 SX2 which
has bloody good airflow through the case, and although it's a bit
noisier than the Sonata, the machine hasn't crashed during a mega
gaming session.

Your mileage may vary though.
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As a matter of curiosity, did you have both fans in the Sonata, and did
you try replacing them with models that offer higher airflow?
 
S

Strontium

I was referring to the replier. They, apparently, were giving dollars in
USD. OP is Canadian and gave prices in CD (hence the USA person's dismay at
the amount)... Which is why I asked the question. Apparently, they didn't
read the 'Canadian Pricing' part.


Draw your own conclusions.


-
Chimera stood up, at show-n-tell in
[email protected] and said:
 
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bongdaddyboo

J.Clarke said:
Simon-Pierre said:
Antec Sonata [380W] Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower $ 172.89
Click to expand...

Although it's ridiculously quiet (which is a good thing), you'll also
find that case can sometimes get nice and toasty. I did have one and
my computer room's in a fairly warm environment, and after about an
hour or so of gaming on something nice and intensive like Delta
Force: Black Hawk down on my system, the video card sometimes got a
bit warm and crashed the system.

I ended up replacing the Sonata with a Coolermaster ATCS-201 SX2
which has bloody good airflow through the case, and although it's a
bit noisier than the Sonata, the machine hasn't crashed during a mega
gaming session.

Your mileage may vary though.
Click to expand...

As a matter of curiosity, did you have both fans in the Sonata, and
did you try replacing them with models that offer higher airflow?
Click to expand...

Yes and yes.

Put a couple of 4600rpm fans in to replace the stock ones and although it
decreased case temps by 2-4 degrees C, it didn't help much with the airflow
through the case at all and the video card still warmed the room up! Didn't
see the point of making a quiet case louder so I sold it to someone who
could use it, gave up on the "quiet" idea and got the Coolermaster instead.

The Sonata's a great case - if you're in a suitable environment....
 
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Simon-Pierre

Alright i just said the weekends because i would be studing during the week,
, it wouldnt be all weekend, lol alright enough with that, um ya concerning
the sonata im defenelty gettinng it since im living in one room, it must be
as quiet as possible. The price for the 9600 pro is for the ati version
(inCND funds) and its the cheapest i cand find, the sapphire should a be a
bit less but i dont know the exact price. How much more would the 9700 (non
pro) cost. give it to me in us$ or cnd just state which it is.
 
D

dsgdag

- Get a radeon 9700 np, your cpu can hang with a faster gfx card than 9600.
- Get 2x512 ddr400 modules, you will need 1 gig ram sooner than you think.
 
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Joe

Asus A7N8X (5PCI) NForce2ST [Socket A] $ 151.84
Click to expand...

Have you considered the Abit NF7. www.ncix.com has it for 139

Geil 256Mb DDR PC3200 [400] $ 149.76
Antec Sonata [380W] Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower $ 172.89
Samsung 763MB 17in .20dp(H)1280x1024@65H*Black* $ 266.55
Recorder LG 52x/24x/52x *Black* $ 62.92
DVD-Rom Liteon 16X DVD *Black* $ 51.07
Click to expand...

If you opt out of the black stuff you'll likely save enough to get another
matching stick of memory. I'ld get an $7 can of primer and a couple of
cans of black spray paint and color it black myself if looks were a
concern. Not only will you save money but it'll all be the same tone of
black.
 
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Simon-Pierre

ya i did actually think about the spray paint, but when it comes to the
monitorm id rather have it done already and perfect, the different tones of
black wont bother me, i just dont want a white dvd rom with my black sonata.
and also i am getting 2 sticks of 256 3200 memory, of 754 each. ya thanks
everyone for yuor suggestions and opinions, and write some more if u can, no
such thing as to much feedback
Joe said:
Asus A7N8X (5PCI) NForce2ST [Socket A] $ 151.84
Click to expand...

Have you considered the Abit NF7. www.ncix.com has it for 139

Geil 256Mb DDR PC3200 [400] $ 149.76
Antec Sonata [380W] Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower $ 172.89
Samsung 763MB 17in .20dp(H)1280x1024@65H*Black* $ 266.55
Recorder LG 52x/24x/52x *Black* $ 62.92
DVD-Rom Liteon 16X DVD *Black* $ 51.07
Click to expand...

If you opt out of the black stuff you'll likely save enough to get another
matching stick of memory. I'ld get an $7 can of primer and a couple of
cans of black spray paint and color it black myself if looks were a
concern. Not only will you save money but it'll all be the same tone of
black.
Click to expand...
 
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