Is it possible to receive "Reminders" when Outlook is not running?

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six-h

OK, being retired, and of a certain age, I don't generally have outlook
running, even minimised!
I would however appreciate reminders of Birthdays, appointments, etc. whilst
working at my PC. (notification of received mail would be nice too!)
Is it possible to set anything up that would achieve this for me?

thanks,
six-h
 
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six-h

Thanks neo,
Must say I'm shocked and disapointed.
In XP using Microsoft WorksSuite, its possible to receive reminders from the
calendar programme even when it's not open.
I thought that I had moved up to a better system than I previously had,
evidently not, such is progress. lol

six-h
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

they are two different programs - works only does calendar. Outlook is more
than a calendar and in the business environment where it got its start, its
open all day for email and calendaring.

If works meets your needs, by all means use it. if you use Vista, the vista
calendar is pretty good too.

--
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six-h

Diane!
Thankyou for your response!!
I was about to resort to post-it notes!!

I'm struggling so much trying to familiarise myself with Vista Ultimate, and
Office 2007, I hadn't noticed that "Windows Calender" was included!

That'll do for me if I can get it to remind me even when it's closed.

I've just set it, and ticked the box that says to show reminders even when
the programme is closed, but it has failed.:-(
Don't know how to achieve this, can you advise?

six-h


Diane Poremsky said:
they are two different programs - works only does calendar. Outlook is more
than a calendar and in the business environment where it got its start, its
open all day for email and calendaring.

If works meets your needs, by all means use it. if you use Vista, the vista
calendar is pretty good too.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
(e-mail address removed)

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six-h said:
Thanks neo,
Must say I'm shocked and disapointed.
In XP using Microsoft WorksSuite, its possible to receive reminders from
the
calendar programme even when it's not open.
I thought that I had moved up to a better system than I previously had,
evidently not, such is progress. lol

six-h
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

I don't use it too often - but it works for me. Make sure the reminder is
set and if you are making a test appointment, that the reminder will trigger
a few min later than the current time. In my experience, the reminders
trigger about mid-minute, not as soon as the time rolls over - i.e., a 15
min reminder that would trigger at 10:45, will not trigger as soon as the
clock rolls over to 10:45.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





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six-h said:
Diane!
Thankyou for your response!!
I was about to resort to post-it notes!!

I'm struggling so much trying to familiarise myself with Vista Ultimate,
and
Office 2007, I hadn't noticed that "Windows Calender" was included!

That'll do for me if I can get it to remind me even when it's closed.

I've just set it, and ticked the box that says to show reminders even when
the programme is closed, but it has failed.:-(
Don't know how to achieve this, can you advise?

six-h


Diane Poremsky said:
they are two different programs - works only does calendar. Outlook is
more
than a calendar and in the business environment where it got its start,
its
open all day for email and calendaring.

If works meets your needs, by all means use it. if you use Vista, the
vista
calendar is pretty good too.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
(e-mail address removed)

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point
your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


six-h said:
Thanks neo,
Must say I'm shocked and disapointed.
In XP using Microsoft WorksSuite, its possible to receive reminders
from
the
calendar programme even when it's not open.
I thought that I had moved up to a better system than I previously had,
evidently not, such is progress. lol

six-h


:

Sorry to say this, but Outlook has to be running.

OK, being retired, and of a certain age, I don't generally have
outlook
running, even minimised!
I would however appreciate reminders of Birthdays, appointments,
etc.
whilst
working at my PC. (notification of received mail would be nice too!)
Is it possible to set anything up that would achieve this for me?

thanks,
six-h
 
V

VanguardLH

six-h said:
OK, being retired, and of a certain age, I don't generally have outlook
running, even minimised!
I would however appreciate reminders of Birthdays, appointments, etc. whilst
working at my PC. (notification of received mail would be nice too!)
Is it possible to set anything up that would achieve this for me?

thanks,
six-h

No program can do anything unless it has been loaded into memory. If it
isn't running, it obviously can't do anything because the program does
NOT exist anywhere. Files on your disk don't run anything.

You mentioned MS Works Suite. Nope, it if is alerting you of calendar
events than it *is* running in the background. If it weren't then it
couldn't tell you anything.

You never mention WHICH version of Outlook you use. OL2002 requires a
registry edit (some add-ons make the option available) to minimize it to
a tray icon. OL2003, and after, have an option to minimize Outlook to a
tray icon. Obviously you ARE leaving Outlook running can it can
actually do something.
 
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six-h

Oh! Diane,
I set a reminder in Windows calender, for 19:30, with a reminder 2 hrs
before (17:30) and ticked the box "to allow reminders even when "Calender"
was closed.
Result by 17:45...nothing; when I opened "Calender" of course, it "bonged"
immediately (helpful)!
Whilst I accept the logic of VanguardLH, I cannot understand why there is a
tick box for a feature that clearly will not work!

With my old XP/worksSuite programme, there was always an icon in the Sys
Tray, "WcalRem", or something like it, and this did the business without any
fuss, and was 100% reliable!
The Icon was associated with a completely seperate programme which resided
in my "Start-up" folder, but I cannot find an equivalent folder in Vista.

six-h
Diane Poremsky said:
I don't use it too often - but it works for me. Make sure the reminder is
set and if you are making a test appointment, that the reminder will trigger
a few min later than the current time. In my experience, the reminders
trigger about mid-minute, not as soon as the time rolls over - i.e., a 15
min reminder that would trigger at 10:45, will not trigger as soon as the
clock rolls over to 10:45.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
(e-mail address removed)

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


six-h said:
Diane!
Thankyou for your response!!
I was about to resort to post-it notes!!

I'm struggling so much trying to familiarise myself with Vista Ultimate,
and
Office 2007, I hadn't noticed that "Windows Calender" was included!

That'll do for me if I can get it to remind me even when it's closed.

I've just set it, and ticked the box that says to show reminders even when
the programme is closed, but it has failed.:-(
Don't know how to achieve this, can you advise?

six-h


Diane Poremsky said:
they are two different programs - works only does calendar. Outlook is
more
than a calendar and in the business environment where it got its start,
its
open all day for email and calendaring.

If works meets your needs, by all means use it. if you use Vista, the
vista
calendar is pretty good too.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
(e-mail address removed)

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx or point
your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


Thanks neo,
Must say I'm shocked and disapointed.
In XP using Microsoft WorksSuite, its possible to receive reminders
from
the
calendar programme even when it's not open.
I thought that I had moved up to a better system than I previously had,
evidently not, such is progress. lol

six-h


:

Sorry to say this, but Outlook has to be running.

OK, being retired, and of a certain age, I don't generally have
outlook
running, even minimised!
I would however appreciate reminders of Birthdays, appointments,
etc.
whilst
working at my PC. (notification of received mail would be nice too!)
Is it possible to set anything up that would achieve this for me?

thanks,
six-h
 
S

six-h

Hi VanguardLH,

As I've said to Diane, I completely accept your logic!

However, there must be some way to use one or other of the calender features
"automatically" and independently of the programme being open, as I have
described was the case with my old XP machine!
I'm running Vista Ultimate, and Office 2007 Enterprise edition,

six h
 
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VanguardLH

six-h said:
Hi VanguardLH,

As I've said to Diane, I completely accept your logic!

However, there must be some way to use one or other of the calender features
"automatically" and independently of the programme being open, as I have
described was the case with my old XP machine!

You accept the logic and then you refute the logic. As you had back in
XP, you had some program running that did the calendaring function. It
ran as a background process either as a startup item or an NT service.
From what I've found through a Google search, MS Works left wkcalrem.exe
running as a background process to do the calendar alerts. So, again,
something had to be left running to do something, like the calendar
alerts you mentioned. Outlook doesn't provide separate monitor or
reminder mini-utilities that run separate of outlook.exe.
I'm running Vista Ultimate, and Office 2007 Enterprise edition,

If you want to use the calendar inside of Outlook, you'll have to leave
Outlook running. That's why I mentioned you could have Outlook minimize
to a tray icon in the system notification area (system tray) of the
Windows taskbar rather than minimize Outlook to a button in the taskbar.
Outlook would still be running when you minimize it (to a tray icon).
Just be careful not to exit Outlook and instead just minimize it. When
minimized, Outlook reduces its memory consumption by releasing its GDI
objects (unlike some e-mail programs, like Thunderbird, that consumes
the same memory whether minimized or not).
 
S

six-h

Hi, VanguardLH

You are correct, "Wkcalrem.exe" ran at start-up automatically, meaning that
any reminders were displayed routinely as soon as windows loaded.
Sounds like minimising Outlook to the notification area will achieve the
same function, but I can't find how to do this. The help files only explain
how to banish the icon from the notification area, not how to leave it there
and banish the taskbar button!
Once I've achieved this, do I have to re-do it on each boot, because that
was the convenience of "Wkcalrem.exe"?
How do I "re-awaken" Outlook, or don't I need to - just use the icon in the
notification area?

six-h
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Minimize Outlook and the icon will be in the notification area. Right click on it and select "Hide when minimized" - this should do the trick.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, six-h asked:

| Hi, VanguardLH
|
| You are correct, "Wkcalrem.exe" ran at start-up automatically,
| meaning that any reminders were displayed routinely as soon as
| windows loaded.
| Sounds like minimising Outlook to the notification area will achieve
| the same function, but I can't find how to do this. The help files
| only explain how to banish the icon from the notification area, not
| how to leave it there and banish the taskbar button!
| Once I've achieved this, do I have to re-do it on each boot, because
| that was the convenience of "Wkcalrem.exe"?
| How do I "re-awaken" Outlook, or don't I need to - just use the icon
| in the notification area?
|
| six-h
|
|
| "VanguardLH" wrote:
|
|| six-h wrote:
||
||| Hi VanguardLH,
|||
||| As I've said to Diane, I completely accept your logic!
|||
||| However, there must be some way to use one or other of the calender
||| features "automatically" and independently of the programme being
||| open, as I have described was the case with my old XP machine!
||
|| You accept the logic and then you refute the logic. As you had back
|| in XP, you had some program running that did the calendaring
|| function. It ran as a background process either as a startup item
|| or an NT service. From what I've found through a Google search, MS
|| Works left wkcalrem.exe running as a background process to do the
|| calendar alerts. So, again, something had to be left running to do
|| something, like the calendar alerts you mentioned. Outlook doesn't
|| provide separate monitor or reminder mini-utilities that run
|| separate of outlook.exe.
||
||| I'm running Vista Ultimate, and Office 2007 Enterprise edition,
||
|| If you want to use the calendar inside of Outlook, you'll have to
|| leave Outlook running. That's why I mentioned you could have
|| Outlook minimize to a tray icon in the system notification area
|| (system tray) of the Windows taskbar rather than minimize Outlook to
|| a button in the taskbar. Outlook would still be running when you
|| minimize it (to a tray icon). Just be careful not to exit Outlook
|| and instead just minimize it. When minimized, Outlook reduces its
|| memory consumption by releasing its GDI objects (unlike some e-mail
|| programs, like Thunderbird, that consumes the same memory whether
|| minimized or not).
 
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six-h

Hi, Milly,

Thanks for that, I was afraid that it might make it disappear for good!!
Don't suppose that this will make Outlook open on boot-up though, like
"Wkcalrem.exe", which ran from the XP Startup folder?

Don't know where this came from! "After furious head scratching, six-h
asked:", but it was spot on! lol

six-h



Milly Staples said:
Minimize Outlook and the icon will be in the notification area. Right click on it and select "Hide when minimized" - this should do the trick.

--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, six-h asked:

| Hi, VanguardLH
|
| You are correct, "Wkcalrem.exe" ran at start-up automatically,
| meaning that any reminders were displayed routinely as soon as
| windows loaded.
| Sounds like minimising Outlook to the notification area will achieve
| the same function, but I can't find how to do this. The help files
| only explain how to banish the icon from the notification area, not
| how to leave it there and banish the taskbar button!
| Once I've achieved this, do I have to re-do it on each boot, because
| that was the convenience of "Wkcalrem.exe"?
| How do I "re-awaken" Outlook, or don't I need to - just use the icon
| in the notification area?
|
| six-h
|
|
| "VanguardLH" wrote:
|
|| six-h wrote:
||
||| Hi VanguardLH,
|||
||| As I've said to Diane, I completely accept your logic!
|||
||| However, there must be some way to use one or other of the calender
||| features "automatically" and independently of the programme being
||| open, as I have described was the case with my old XP machine!
||
|| You accept the logic and then you refute the logic. As you had back
|| in XP, you had some program running that did the calendaring
|| function. It ran as a background process either as a startup item
|| or an NT service. From what I've found through a Google search, MS
|| Works left wkcalrem.exe running as a background process to do the
|| calendar alerts. So, again, something had to be left running to do
|| something, like the calendar alerts you mentioned. Outlook doesn't
|| provide separate monitor or reminder mini-utilities that run
|| separate of outlook.exe.
||
||| I'm running Vista Ultimate, and Office 2007 Enterprise edition,
||
|| If you want to use the calendar inside of Outlook, you'll have to
|| leave Outlook running. That's why I mentioned you could have
|| Outlook minimize to a tray icon in the system notification area
|| (system tray) of the Windows taskbar rather than minimize Outlook to
|| a button in the taskbar. Outlook would still be running when you
|| minimize it (to a tray icon). Just be careful not to exit Outlook
|| and instead just minimize it. When minimized, Outlook reduces its
|| memory consumption by releasing its GDI objects (unlike some e-mail
|| programs, like Thunderbird, that consumes the same memory whether
|| minimized or not).
 
V

VanguardLH

six-h said:
Hi, Milly,

Thanks for that, I was afraid that it might make it disappear for good!!
Don't suppose that this will make Outlook open on boot-up though, like
"Wkcalrem.exe", which ran from the XP Startup folder?

You could put a shortcut to "<path>\outlook.exe /recycle" in your
Startup folder under the Start menu. You could also try configuring the
properties of the shortcut to minimize the window; however, when Outlook
first loads, it may not honor the minimize window property (it doesn't
with OL2002), so when you login then you might end up seeing the Outlook
window. You'll have to minimize it when you login.
 
S

six-h

Thanks for that, VanguardLH.
That's getting a bit beyond me!
I wasn't aware that I had a startup folder in Vista, thought I didn't have
one 'cos I couldn't find it!
Think I'll have to accept defeat on this one!
Thanks everyone for trying to help.

six-h
 
V

VanguardLH

Thanks for that, VanguardLH.
That's getting a bit beyond me!
I wasn't aware that I had a startup folder in Vista, thought I
didn't have
one 'cos I couldn't find it!
Think I'll have to accept defeat on this one!

You don't know how to add a shortcut to your Start menu?
I don't use Vista but I doubt it does not have a Start group.
 

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