Internet connection sharing problems

B

Bob

Hi I'm trying to get ICS working on my xp pro sp2 machine. My set up at
the moment is modem -> router -> wireless NIC -> Lan NIC (on the same
machine) -> Lan NIC. What I want to do is have it so that the other
computer connects through my wireless NIC to the router and then onto
the net. However when I go to share my wireless NIC I get and error
message saying "an error occurred while internet connection sharing was
being enabled the specified service does not exist as an installed
service" and sure enough in services ICS isn't listed at all. Is what I
want to do possible first and foremost and secondly why inst ICS listed
in services at all?

Thanks
 
R

Ron Sommer

ICS is for when the modem is connected to one computer and you connect to
that computer to share the connection.
You are connecting to the router.
 
B

Bob

Ron said:
ICS is for when the modem is connected to one computer and you connect to
that computer to share the connection.
You are connecting to the router.

So then how do i go about sending the traffic from the other pc through
my wireless card? As far as i can tell it is possible.
 
M

Malke

Bob said:
So then how do i go about sending the traffic from the other pc through
my wireless card? As far as i can tell it is possible.

You don't send traffic through your wireless card. Since you have a router
and Internet access apparently works, you already have a local area network
(lan). Now you just need to set up file/printer sharing on your lan. Here
are some basic instructions. If you find them difficult - and there is no
shame in admitting this isn't your cup of tea - have a local professional
come on-site to set you up. This will not take long and shouldn't be
expensive.

Run the Network Setup Wizard on all computers, making sure to enable File &
Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on
the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or
have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2005/06)
which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have third-party
firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area Network traffic as
trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet.

If one or more of the computers is XP Pro:

a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple
File Sharing enabled.

Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means that
anyone without a user account on the target system can use its resources.
This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters in your
situation.

Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders
inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared
Documents folder.

If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network troubleshooter by
MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it and it will usually
pinpoint the problem area(s) - http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Malke
 
B

Bob

I think you have missed the point of my question. My network is well
established with multiple computers and networked printers but what I
want to do is connect another computer to mine through direct cable then
have mine send receive the Internet traffic originating from the other
computer through it's wireless card. I don’t have the money to buy
another wireless card and I need the other computer next to me so that I
can easily set it up. So what it boils down is that I want to share my
computers net access with this other computer. I did try bridging the
LAN and wireless together and set the DNS and gateway on the other
computer as the bridged connection but when you go share this connection
it tells me that my ip needs to change to 192.168.0.1 which is the
routers internal ip but even if I say ok it then says the Internet
connection sharing is not an installer service. Sure enough when I view
windows services it's not listed. First and foremost is what I propose
possible because to me I don’t see any reason why not and even if it's
not why isn’t internet connection sharing listed in windows services?

Thanks
 
M

Malke

Bob said:
I think you have missed the point of my question. My network is well
established with multiple computers and networked printers but what I
want to do is connect another computer to mine through direct cable then
have mine send receive the Internet traffic originating from the other
computer through it's wireless card. I don’t have the money to buy
another wireless card and I need the other computer next to me so that I
can easily set it up. So what it boils down is that I want to share my
computers net access with this other computer. I did try bridging the
LAN and wireless together and set the DNS and gateway on the other
computer as the bridged connection but when you go share this connection
it tells me that my ip needs to change to 192.168.0.1 which is the
routers internal ip but even if I say ok it then says the Internet
connection sharing is not an installer service. Sure enough when I view
windows services it's not listed. First and foremost is what I propose
possible because to me I don’t see any reason why not and even if it's
not why isn’t internet connection sharing listed in windows services?

Thanks

Yes, I'm sorry but I did miss the point of your question. You didn't tell us
that you already have file/printer sharing set up - you just seemed to be
asking a question about ICS.

I'm really not sure why you want to do this, and perhaps explaining what
your end goal is in more detail would help you get focused help. It sounds
like you are trying to set up a proxy server, but honestly I really don't
know. If setting up a proxy server is what you want to do, then ICS isn't
the way to do it.

Perhaps someone cleverer than I can figure out your end goal from what
you've written. I'm sorry I was unable to help you.

Malke
 
B

Bob

What i want is for my wireless card to be the gateway adapter for the
other computer to access the net through. As i said before i don't have
the money to get another wireless card which would be the most
simplistic and easiest solution. So i need to be able to enable ICS on
my wireless card which i cant currently do because for some unknown
reason to me Internet connection sharing is not installed as a service
which i think is the crux of my problem. Even if i cant set up net
sharing the way i want i would still like to know why Internet
connection sharing isn't installed.
 
M

Malke

Bob said:
What i want is for my wireless card to be the gateway adapter for the
other computer to access the net through. As i said before i don't have
the money to get another wireless card which would be the most
simplistic and easiest solution. So i need to be able to enable ICS on
my wireless card which i cant currently do because for some unknown
reason to me Internet connection sharing is not installed as a service
which i think is the crux of my problem. Even if i cant set up net
sharing the way i want i would still like to know why Internet
connection sharing isn't installed.

I think what you are talking about is ad hoc networking. Here's an article
written by MVP Barb Bowman about it:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_02april08.mspx

See if that meets your needs.

Malke
 
B

Bob

This is sort of what i want to do but i cant enable Internet connection
sharing because i get an error message saying that its not installed as
a windows service. Any ideas about how to get it installed?
 
M

Malke

Bob said:
This is sort of what i want to do but i cant enable Internet
connection sharing because i get an error message saying that its not
installed as
a windows service. Any ideas about how to get it installed?

I'm sorry but I haven't used Windows Internet Connection Sharing since
Windows 95. Here are some links about ICS which might be helpful:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics - ICS
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/clientwiz.htm - XP
ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/crawford_02july01.mspx

Malke
 
B

Bob

Those links still don't tell me how to correct my error. I have tried
googleing but no luck. I think i don't have a required windows
component installed but I have no idea what that component is.
 
M

Malke

Bob said:
Those links still don't tell me how to correct my error. I have tried
googleing but no luck. I think i don't have a required windows
component installed but I have no idea what that component is.

As I've said, I'm sorry but I really can't help you with anything to do
with Internet Connection Sharing. I would have to actually see your
computer to be able to figure out what the problem is. If you really
need to have this work, the most efficient solution would be to have a
local professional with networking expertise come on-site and set you
up.

Again, I'm sorry that I was unable to help you with this problem.

Malke
 
B

Bob

No problem, ill just do things the old fashion way and plug it straight
into the router and walk between computers. Makes things needlessly
longer but when you have no other option that you can afford what can
you do?
 
F

fafaflunky

Bob said:
This is sort of what i want to do but i cant enable Internet connection
sharing because i get an error message saying that its not installed as
a windows service. Any ideas about how to get it installed?


You will need to designate a Windows XP computer as the host. This
computer must have two network adapters, one for your internal network
and one for the Internet connection. Before attempting to enable ICS,
verify that the host computer has a working connection to the Internet
through the network card connected to the cable modem or DSL line, or
on the network connection associated with the modem. The easiest way to
enable ICS is to use the Network Setup Wizard, by following these
steps:

1.
Click Start, point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to
Communications, and then click Network Setup Wizard.

2.
Click Next until you see the Select a connection method screen.

3.
Click This computer connects directly to the Internet, and complete
the wizard to install ICS.


This method has several advantages in that the wizard automatically
detects the connection to the Internet, configures Internet Connection
Firewall (ICF), bridges multiple network adapters connected to your
home network and creates a log of information about the configuration
named nsw.log in the Windows folder.

Turning on ICS manually is almost as easy as using the wizard except
that you need to create the bridge for multiple network cards before
enabling ICS. (See an earlier column, Building Network Bridges for more
information on how to use the bridging capability in Windows XP.) Then
take these steps:

1.
In Control Panel, click Network and Internet Connections and then
click Network Connections.

2.
Click the local area network (LAN) connection or the dial-up
networking connection that you want to share (that is, the one that
connects to the Internet), and then, under Network Tasks, click Change
settings of this connection.

3.
Disable Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Print Sharing for
Microsoft Networks by clearing the check boxes shown in Figure 1. This
step is extremely important. Never leave these items enabled for any
network card that is directly connected to the Internet (see sitting
duck, above).





4.
Click the Advanced tab, and select the Allow other network users to
connect through this computer's Internet connection check box.






5.
You can enable or disable the allowing of other users to control the
connection-users don't need to be able to control the connection to
use it.

6.
Under Internet Connection Firewall, select the Protect my computer and
network by limiting or preventing access to this computer from the
Internet check box for this network card, unless you have another
firewall between the computer and the Internet. This is very important.


7.
Click OK, and Internet Connection Sharing will be enabled.
 
B

Bob

Why does everyone keep missing that error message i talk about? I know
how to set up ICS and have run my home network using ICS for several
years before moving to wireless. I will say it again, when i enable
ICS i get an error message saying that ICS is not a installed windows
service. I really to appreciate the help but you arn't helping me if
you don't address my error, posting links to sites that deal with ICS is
great if i didn't know how to set it up which i do or i didn't google
for help which i did. So please everyone don't post any more unless you
address why i receive that error message.

Thanks
 
G

Guest

Bob,

Did you manage to figure this issue out as i am experiencing the exact same
thing.
It says that the ICS service is not installed however everything i read says
that it should be installed as a matter of course.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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