Install Xp pro on second computer?

[vernon]

It is clear that we can install Xp pro on a "second" computer i.e. laptop
used by the same owner.

It isn't clear if this applies to Xp pro purchased as "For distribution
only with a new PC"

comments?

 

[Alias]

It is clear that we can install Xp pro on a "second" computer i.e. laptop
used by the same owner.

That's Office, not Windows. Only one computer per license.

Alias

 

[Tom Porterfield]

It is clear that we can install Xp pro on a "second" computer i.e. laptop
used by the same owner.

What is clear is that you can *not* do this. Office versions do allow
installing on a second computer such as a laptop. Windows has always been
once license per machine.

It isn't clear if this applies to Xp pro purchased as "For distribution
only with a new PC"

comments?

Yes, see above. In additiona, OEM licenses, once installed, cannot be
transferred to another PC, they must always stay with the hardware on which
they were originally installed.

 

[smlunatick]

It is clear that we can install Xp pro on a "second" computer i.e. laptop
used by the same owner.

It isn't clear if this applies to Xp pro purchased as "For distribution
only with a new PC"

comments?

XP can only be installed on ONE PC at a time. Each PC will be needing
there own license, if both are being constantly used.

Any XP that is labeled "For distribution only with a new PC" is OEM.
OEM can only be installed on ONE PC ever. It can not be transferred
to another PC or sold separately, without also selling the PC it was
installed on. If the PC dies, so does this version of XP.

 

[Alias]

What is clear is that you can *not* do this.

You mean "should" not.

Office versions do allow
installing on a second computer such as a laptop. Windows has always
been once license per machine.


Yes, see above. In additiona, OEM licenses, once installed, cannot be
transferred to another PC, they must always stay with the hardware on
which they were originally installed.

You mean "should" always stay with the hardware ...

If it's been over 120 since the last activation, an XP OEM copy *can* be
moved to another computer with no problems.

Alias

 

[Alias]

XP can only be installed on ONE PC at a time. Each PC will be needing
there own license, if both are being constantly used.

Any XP that is labeled "For distribution only with a new PC" is OEM.
OEM can only be installed on ONE PC ever. It can not be transferred
to another PC or sold separately, without also selling the PC it was
installed on. If the PC dies, so does this version of XP.

You mean "should", not "can".

Alias

 

[Tom Porterfield]

You mean "should" not.

You cannot do it and remain in compliance with the License that you accepted
during install.

 

[vernon]

XP can only be installed on ONE PC at a time. Each PC will be needing
there own license, if both are being constantly used.

Any XP that is labeled "For distribution only with a new PC" is OEM.
OEM can only be installed on ONE PC ever. It can not be transferred
to another PC or sold separately, without also selling the PC it was
installed on. If the PC dies, so does this version of XP.

If the PC dies OR is put out of service, the actual license states clearly
that it can be installed on another computer as long as one has the original
computer cleared.

 

[vernon]

That's Office, not Windows. Only one computer per license.

Alias

Windows Xp

 

[Alias]

You cannot do it and remain in compliance with the License that you
accepted during install.

But you can if you don't care about being in compliance with a scammy
license agreement. Soooo, the proper word is "should", not "can".

Alias

 

[Ron Martell]

If the PC dies OR is put out of service, the actual license states clearly
that it can be installed on another computer as long as one has the original
computer cleared.

Only if the license is retail or volume license. OEM licenses are
permanently locked to the first computer that they are installed on
and cannot be legitimately transferred to another computer under any
circumstances, even if the original computer is lost, stolen,
destroyed, or scrapped.

This is clearly spelled out in the End User License Agreement that
comes with the OEM versions.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

 

[Tom Porterfield]

But you can if you don't care about being in compliance with a scammy
license agreement. Soooo, the proper word is "should", not "can".

To quote another reply in this thread - "Only one computer per license."

 

[Gordon]

Only if the license is retail or volume license. OEM licenses are
permanently locked to the first computer that they are installed on
and cannot be legitimately transferred to another computer under any
circumstances,

There is NO legal reason why an OEM version bought legitimately by a
customer should not be transferred to another machine that is owned by
the customer. The ONLY difference between OEM and Retail, legally, is
that the OEM Vendor assumes responsibility for support of that copy,
instead of MS. There is NO reason in law that that condition should
prohibit the transfer of the software from one machine to another. That
is all. MS cannot, and have not, ever, tried to enforce this ludicrous
"condition" in a court of law. Anywhere. I wonder why? possibly because
it actually might be construed as "unfair terms"?

 

[Alias]

To quote another reply in this thread - "Only one computer per license."

Touche. I am a firm believer in that, btw. I just don't see why we have
to prove it over and over again. In fact, that is the only gripe I have
with XP as it has served me well.

Alias

 

[Alias]

There is NO legal reason why an OEM version bought legitimately by a
customer should not be transferred to another machine that is owned by
the customer. The ONLY difference between OEM and Retail, legally, is
that the OEM Vendor assumes responsibility for support of that copy,
instead of MS. There is NO reason in law that that condition should
prohibit the transfer of the software from one machine to another. That
is all. MS cannot, and have not, ever, tried to enforce this ludicrous
"condition" in a court of law. Anywhere. I wonder why? possibly because
it actually might be construed as "unfair terms"?

Good point.

Alias

 

[Bob I]

There is NO legal reason why an OEM version bought legitimately by a
customer should not be transferred to another machine that is owned by
the customer. The ONLY difference between OEM and Retail, legally, is
that the OEM Vendor assumes responsibility for support of that copy,
instead of MS. There is NO reason in law that that condition should
prohibit the transfer of the software from one machine to another. That
is all. MS cannot, and have not, ever, tried to enforce this ludicrous
"condition" in a court of law. Anywhere. I wonder why? possibly because
it actually might be construed as "unfair terms"?

You seem to be completely confused as to what is legitimately bought.
You BUY the RIGHT to USE the operating system on the FIRST PC that it is
installed on. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to BUY the RIGHT
to move it from PC to PC, you BUY a license for the Retail version.

 

[Tom Porterfield]

Touche. I am a firm believer in that, btw. I just don't see why we have
to prove it over and over again. In fact, that is the only gripe I have
with XP as it has served me well.

You'll get no argument from me on any of that.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

OEM licenses are permanently locked to the first computer
that they are installed on and cannot be legitimately transferred
to another computer under any circumstances, even if the
original computer is lost, stolen, destroyed, or scrapped.

And the crucial word is "legitimately".

*TimDaniels*

 

[Gordon]

You seem to be completely confused as to what is legitimately bought.
You BUY the RIGHT to USE the operating system on the FIRST PC that it is
installed on.

Not confused at all. Why should the fact that the OEM vendor supports
the OS rather than MS, prohibit the licensee from removing the OS from
one machine and installing on another? Because that is the ONLY
difference between an OEM copy and a "retail" copy.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

It is clear that we can install Xp pro on a "second" computer i.e. laptop
used by the same owner.

"Clear?" It is? Have you informed Microsoft of this new discovery?
Have you even bothered to read your EULA?

You need to purchase a separate WinXP license for each computer on
which you install it. (As long as you have multiple identical licenses,
it doesn't matter if you use the same CD for the installations, as long
as you use a different license each time.)

Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it
is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft mechanism,
Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more difficult)
multiple installations using a single license.

One can buy additional licenses, assuming one already has a retail
license. Naturally, Microsoft cannot sell additional OEM licenses. Be
aware, however, that you'll probably pay more this way than you would if
you were to buy a second copy of WinXP from a discount retailer;
Microsoft will only offer you a 15% discount off their MSRP.

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp

It isn't clear if this applies to Xp pro purchased as "For distribution
only with a new PC"

Actually, it's also perfectly clear that you absurd claim doesn't apply
to OEM licenses, either. Just read the EULA. An OEM version must be
sold with a piece of hardware (normally a motherboard or hard rive, if
not an entire PC) and is _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which
it's installed. An OEM license, once installed, is not legally
transferable to another computer under _any_ circumstances.


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Bruce Chambers

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