Burt wrote:
"rjn"
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"Burt"
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My question to you is - on a thread dealing with printing both sides of paper, why would you offer an unsolicited, gratuitous comment on the evils of aftermarket inks?
Had I any suspicion that it would have set off a flame fest, I wouldn't have. But it was admittedly a gratuitous remark. And despite the foamers and stalkers who claim to be able to read my mind, the remark was only intended to get inkjet newbies to investigate before assuming that inkjet consumables are like optical media - that anything sold "for" your printer brand is necessarily safe to use in it, much less will provide predictable results without testing and characterizing it. Cheap CD-Rs may fail to store your data, but they usually won't destroy your CD writer. That can happen with re-fills, and when a newbie discovers that the first replacement batch of full- capacity ctgs costs as much as the printer, the temptation to try a too-cheap solution is strong. I assumed the experienced readers would recognize that the statement was mostly tongue in cheek. Guess not. -- Regards, Bob Niland
I appreciate your response, Bob. When the issue of aftermarket inks come up I would caution people to be wary of most prefilled aftermarket carts and only use bulk inks for refilling that have been well tested in the marketplace and recommended on forums such as this one.
Many people in these forums are in the business or associated with marketeers who sell bulk ink.
I questioned your blanket negative and would prefer to see a more nuanced statement that differentiates between generics, big-box store one-size-fits-all refill kits, and well recommended inks like Imaging Specialist or Formulabs, both brands of ink that are manufactured by respected ink formulators,
Other than Formulabs there really is little difference. And the vendors who buy from Formulabs and sell prefilled carts will usually not disclose what they are selling. A few say they sell Formulabs ink in one section of their website but not in another. There is not consistencey. I found out that many times their web name from ink is the same but the actual mfg can vary from cart to cart or ink number to ink number. You really cannot be sure of what you are getting.
This is a photo website and most photographers who spend a great deal of money on cameras and lenses want the best and longest lasting fade resistant prints they can get and are usually willing to pay for it. Most use Epson pigmented ink and many afford wide format printers. Canon ink may not quite have the longevity but the prints are usually more vivid and their printers are faster. Other than the Epson 3800, I prefer Canon but Epson is very good. I do not like HP for photos but do for business printing.
that are predictable, time after time. I think that this sort of response would be a greater service to a newbie with an interest in trying non-OEM inks. They should also be aware that they would do best with custom profiles, although IS inks in my printers produce fantastic prints with little or no tweaking. Our formost critic on this matter will remind us that Alotofthings
I would never buy from them. They would not tell me what they are selling when I called and I did not like their attitude.
one time shipped a different Magenta bulk ink for Canon printers that created a very poor color balance when printing photos. As soon as they were alerted to the problem they immediately notified all customers to whom they had shipped the wrong product and sent them the correct ink ASAP.
They did not ship the wrong product. The issues was that the mfg had some issues with the ink they sold. Many vendors who bought that ink from that vendor had the same problems. While not sure I think the mfg was Formulabs. But they do not sell to the public under their own name unless you buy gallons of each color.
Believe me when I say that I wasn't flaming you -
I find it difficult to believe this post.
I only pointed up the fact the the comment was unsolicited and was similar in context to our troll's blanket negative posts on aftermarket inks.
It is obvious he does not like those who do not agree with him. And he has a group of friends in the print forum but most can tell who they are.
My touch of sarcasm was in the same vein as your expectation that people would recognize your tongue-in-cheek intent.
It's amazing