Individual consumers left out in the cold with Microsoft Security Advisories?!

[kurttrail]

1. No, I've never gotten any mail from them, but, evidently, at least
1.5 million others have.

Those that have subscribed. Or someone subscribed them. So what do you
base your claim that "Real bad eggs, ZDNet"

2. "Unsubscribing" from unsolicited emails is one of the most foolish
things one can do with a computer.

Generally, that is the case, in specfic circumstanses with established
companies that is the best way to deal with it. I just unsubscribed for
some MS newsletters. No big deal.

A. Why should you unsubscribe from something you never subscribed to?

You may not have realized that you did/

B. Unsubscribing confirms a valid email address. Valid addresses are
the "gold" of spammers.

ZDNet is not a spammer.

That ZDNet is a comfirmed spammer and can't be trusted?

Confirmed by whom?

Oh. Someone registered disapproval over an email they got from ZDNet.
I just thought: Email + complaint = spam.

Who registered a complaint? And even if someone did, I didn't know that
complaint = proof!

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[Bruce Chambers]

As if ZDNet has *ever* been a particularly trustworthy source! They're
often as found of accuracy as you are: not very. Industry
professionals take everything they say with a grain of salt.


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[Bruce Chambers]

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5697945.html

Go screw, you scummy home computer users! We ain't gonna help you!
Only our beloved corporate customers!

Up to your usual tactic of completely misunderstanding and then
deliberately distorting the facts, as usual, I see. That article says
no such thing, nor does it even imply it. *Anyone* can subsribe to
Microsoft's e-mailed security notices.


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[kurttrail]

Up to your usual tactic of completely misunderstanding and then
deliberately distorting the facts, as usual, I see. That article says
no such thing, nor does it even imply it. *Anyone* can subsribe to
Microsoft's e-mailed security notices.

Obviously you are another person that doesn't read the whole thread
before replying to the OP, and didn't see that it was ZDNet's email
alert for the article that said MS would " will initiate a procedure to
alert businesses of potential flaws while they are working on a fix."
And also as obviously when you read the article you didn't comprehend
that these NEW Microsoft Security Advisories are a different breed of
animal than the present security bulletins.

We'll see on Tuesday who will be allowed to sign up for this pilot
program and who isn't. I am prepared to eat my words, are you prepare
to eat your's if not *Anyone* can subscribe to this pilot program?

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[Richard Urban]

You have to admit Kurt, that some of these threads get long and tedious. It
is "almost" unreasonable to expect someone to read all of the thread before
responding to something he takes exception to. Therefore mistakes and errors
in judgment calls are often made.

It's just the nature of the beast!

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[kurttrail]

As if ZDNet has *ever* been a particularly trustworthy source!

LOL! No source of information is ever 100% trustworthy.

They're often as found of accuracy as you are: not very.

Well then they are accurate more than a majority of the time.

Industry
professionals take everything they say with a grain of salt.

As would anybody would take ANY information source with a grain of salt.
How much is a grain of salt in both weight and cash?

I guess we'll see for ourselves how trustworthy ZDNet's info is on this
on Tuesday when I will be trying to sign up for this pilot program as a
private individual.

But in the meantime, I've alerted others here about these new Microsoft
Security Advisories, so one of my purposes for starting this thread has
already been satisfied.

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[kurttrail]

You have to admit Kurt, that some of these threads get long and
tedious. It is "almost" unreasonable to expect someone to read all of
the thread before responding to something he takes exception to.
Therefore mistakes and errors in judgment calls are often made.

It's just the nature of the beast!

Yep. But I try to get a good sense of a thread before jumping it, and
almost everytime I reply to an OP without getting a sense of the whole
thread, I regret it. And this thread was hardly very long when you did
the same as Bruce.

Hey, it's not like I'm abusing either of you for doing it. I admit that
I was a bit taken in by the ZDNet email alert, but I not ready to back
totally down until proven that anyone will be able to sign up for this
pilot program for MS's Security Advisories. At this point, I'm willing
to wait and see what happens on Tuesday.

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[kurttrail]

Yep. But I try to get a good sense of a thread before jumping it, and
almost everytime I reply to an OP without getting a sense of the whole
thread, I regret it. And this thread was hardly very long when you
did the same as Bruce.

Hey, it's not like I'm abusing either of you for doing it. I admit
that I was a bit taken in by the ZDNet email alert, but I not ready
to back totally down until proven that anyone will be able to sign up
for this pilot program for MS's Security Advisories. At this point,
I'm willing to wait and see what happens on Tuesday.

And while my only source of info that this pilot program is for
businesses is the Email Alert for the Article from ZDNet, notice that
not one person has shown anything that backs up the notion that this
pilot program is open to all.

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[Jeff]

Will these advisories came in the form of emails? If so, how to distinguish
them from fraudulent one seeming to come from Microsoft?

 

[PA Bear]

How to Tell If a Microsoft Security-Related Message Is Genuine:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/incident/authenticate_mail.mspx

 

[kurttrail]

Will these advisories came in the form of emails? If so, how to
distinguish them from fraudulent one seeming to come from Microsoft?

We should know more details about it on Tuesday when the pilot program
starts up. Stay tuned.

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[kurttrail]

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5697945.html

Go screw, you scummy home computer users! We ain't gonna help you!
Only our beloved corporate customers!

The Security Advisories are going to anyone that signs up for it, so I
WAS WRONG!

However, it seems the advisory pages aren't up and running yet! !
The announcement beat the web pages!


Here is the relevant Advisory Info I received, hopefully the links will
be up and running some time today:


********************************************************************
Title: Microsoft Security Advisory Notification
Issued: May 10, 2005
********************************************************************

Summary:
========
Microsoft is committed to continually improving the security
communications we offer our customers. Today we are pleased to
announce a pilot of a new offering, Microsoft Security Advisories,
which aim to provide guidance and information about security related
software changes or software updates.

The Microsoft Security Advisories are a way for Microsoft to
communicate security information to customers on issues that
may not be classified as a vulnerability and may not require
a security bulletin. Each advisory will be accompanied with a
unique Knowledge Base Article number for reference to provide
additional information about the changes.

For more information, visit the following Web site:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=47489

We will send a notification when an advisory is released or
updated through this Microsoft Security Notification Service:
Comprehensive Edition mailer.

Security Advisories Updated or Released Today
==============================================

* Security Advisory (892313)

- Title: Default Setting in Windows Media Player
Digital Rights Management Could Allow a User
to Open a Web Page Without Requesting
Permission

- Web site: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=47490

* Security Advisory (842851)

- Title: Clarification of the tar pit feature provided for
Exchange Server 2003 in Windows Server 2003 Service
Pack 1

- Web site: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=47491




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[Kinell]

....

Or you can wait until Tuesday and see if you can sign up to get
the Microsoft Security Advisories as an individual.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/default.mspx

"Q. Will customers be able to sign up for email or RSS
notification about new security advisories?
A.
The pilot offering is an opportunity to gather feedback on the
security advisories and therefore we will be making the advisories
available by using our email Microsoft Security Notification
Service: Comprehensive Edition. However we will not immediately
have an RSS notification available. As we continue to incorporate
that feedback into this offering, we will examine making additional
options available. To receive automatic e-mail notifications
whenever a security advisory is issued or updated, subscribe to the
Microsoft Security Notification Service: Comprehensive Edition."

I've just subscribed successfully as an individual.

I think you may have jumped to a conclusion.

 

[kurttrail]

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/default.mspx

"Q. Will customers be able to sign up for email or RSS
notification about new security advisories?
A.
The pilot offering is an opportunity to gather feedback on the
security advisories and therefore we will be making the advisories
available by using our email Microsoft Security Notification
Service: Comprehensive Edition. However we will not immediately
have an RSS notification available. As we continue to incorporate
that feedback into this offering, we will examine making additional
options available. To receive automatic e-mail notifications
whenever a security advisory is issued or updated, subscribe to the
Microsoft Security Notification Service: Comprehensive Edition."

I've just subscribed successfully as an individual.

I think you may have jumped to a conclusion.

I think I already said that yesterday, twice. Once in this thread and I
started a new thread to announce it.

I quote from both posts:

"The Security Advisories are going to anyone that signs up for it, so I
WAS WRONG!"

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[Kinell]

I think I already said that yesterday, twice. Once in this
thread and I started a new thread to announce it.

My ISP's systems had problems earlier in the week. Your Tuesday posts
have only just shown up on my ISP's news server and email is arriving
out of order as well...

 

[PA Bear]

Use the MS newsserver instead:
http://www.insideoe.com/resources/communities.htm#setupmsnews