Index page does not show navigation bar

G

Guest

I'm in the process of publishing my FP2000 web site. I've tried a number of
things but the navigation bar on the index.htm page will not show on
published host. The page looks fine and work OK in FP and on localhost. I'm
publishing via FP and I'm confident the extensions are "on" in my ISP host.

I've done some other tests, like creating a dummy child page with no nav.
bar then publishing and check the page via URL address. Next add the nav bar
to the dummy page and view via URL bar and it looks and works fine. All the
other pages seem to have the nav. bar OK EXCEPT the index page.

This is critical to me since I just have a counter and our town logo on the
index page and rely on the nav bar to take the user to the desired child page.

Help...
Thanks
Jim T.
stonehamme.com
 
G

Guest

Thanks Lisbeth,
1. I tried the rename
2. Did a save/as
3. Copy-n-Pasted
4. Created a new "top document"

None of these work on the ISP host. FP quick view and XP's localhost show
the nav. bar and the links all work fine in these modes.

Do you have any other ideas?

Thanks
Jim T.
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Find out from your host what file name they are using for the default top level home page file
- rename your home page file the same and republish

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


| Thanks Lisbeth,
| 1. I tried the rename
| 2. Did a save/as
| 3. Copy-n-Pasted
| 4. Created a new "top document"
|
| None of these work on the ISP host. FP quick view and XP's localhost show
| the nav. bar and the links all work fine in these modes.
|
| Do you have any other ideas?
|
| Thanks
| Jim T.
|
| "Lisbeth" wrote:
|
| > have you tried rename your index? worked for me once!
| >
| > jimt skrev:
| >
| > > I'm in the process of publishing my FP2000 web site. I've tried a number of
| > > things but the navigation bar on the index.htm page will not show on
| > > published host. The page looks fine and work OK in FP and on localhost. I'm
| > > publishing via FP and I'm confident the extensions are "on" in my ISP host.
| > >
| > > I've done some other tests, like creating a dummy child page with no nav.
| > > bar then publishing and check the page via URL address. Next add the nav bar
| > > to the dummy page and view via URL bar and it looks and works fine. All the
| > > other pages seem to have the nav. bar OK EXCEPT the index page.
| > >
| > > This is critical to me since I just have a counter and our town logo on the
| > > index page and rely on the nav bar to take the user to the desired child page.
| > >
| > > Help...
| > > Thanks
| > > Jim T.
| > > stonehamme.com
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Rename your home page file name to be the same as required by your host
- appears to be index.htm instead of index.html
See http://www.stonehamme.com/index.html

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|
| The URL is: http://www.stonehamme.com
| (The web for our little town in Stoneham, Maine.)
|
| Note the nav bars do not show on this index page on the host but does how on
| the localhost. The nav bar on child pages do show; for example:
|
| http://www.stonehamme.com/about_us.htm
|
| Thanks for any help you can provide
| Jim T.
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > URL for the page?
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | > > I'm in the process of publishing my FP2000 web site. I've tried a number
| > > of
| > > things but the navigation bar on the index.htm page will not show on
| > > published host. The page looks fine and work OK in FP and on localhost.
| > > I'm
| > > publishing via FP and I'm confident the extensions are "on" in my ISP
| > > host.
| > >
| > > I've done some other tests, like creating a dummy child page with no nav.
| > > bar then publishing and check the page via URL address. Next add the nav
| > > bar
| > > to the dummy page and view via URL bar and it looks and works fine. All
| > > the
| > > other pages seem to have the nav. bar OK EXCEPT the index page.
| > >
| > > This is critical to me since I just have a counter and our town logo on
| > > the
| > > index page and rely on the nav bar to take the user to the desired child
| > > page.
| > >
| > > Help...
| > > Thanks
| > > Jim T.
| > > stonehamme.com
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

Stefan,

Thanks for the help. I thought I had the problem licked and got myself in
mess. Somehow I got the home page renamed (index.htm - index.html) and
published the web. Checked it out and it looked good. However when I went
back to the Nav view in FP there was a "under construction page
(isstart.asp)". Evidently FP didn't like the home page extention change. I
tried a series of new page (w/ html extension) and rename etc. No matter what
I did the I either got the either the index.html page + the isstart page in
the Nav pane, or any attempt at a new page would not take as the home page,
or at times just the isstart.asp page in the Nav pane. Eventually I lost my
nav. links. I've reset the home page to index.htm and rebuilt the Nav
structure.

Does FP have a required home page extention (i.e htm)? If you can change the
extention, how do you do it (i.e right click in the folder view?). Other than
renaming is there a way to "set" a page as the home page?

Thanks again for the help
Jim T.

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Rename your home page file name to be the same as required by your host
- appears to be index.htm instead of index.html
See http://www.stonehamme.com/index.html

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|
| The URL is: http://www.stonehamme.com
| (The web for our little town in Stoneham, Maine.)
|
| Note the nav bars do not show on this index page on the host but does how on
| the localhost. The nav bar on child pages do show; for example:
|
| http://www.stonehamme.com/about_us.htm
|
| Thanks for any help you can provide
| Jim T.
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > URL for the page?
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | > > I'm in the process of publishing my FP2000 web site. I've tried a number
| > > of
| > > things but the navigation bar on the index.htm page will not show on
| > > published host. The page looks fine and work OK in FP and on localhost.
| > > I'm
| > > publishing via FP and I'm confident the extensions are "on" in my ISP
| > > host.
| > >
| > > I've done some other tests, like creating a dummy child page with no nav.
| > > bar then publishing and check the page via URL address. Next add the nav
| > > bar
| > > to the dummy page and view via URL bar and it looks and works fine. All
| > > the
| > > other pages seem to have the nav. bar OK EXCEPT the index page.
| > >
| > > This is critical to me since I just have a counter and our town logo on
| > > the
| > > index page and rely on the nav bar to take the user to the desired child
| > > page.
| > >
| > > Help...
| > > Thanks
| > > Jim T.
| > > stonehamme.com
| >
| >
| >
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R

Ronx

FrontPage does not have a required home page name or extension, but your
server does. It sounds like you are publishing to IIS5.1 on Windows XP Pro
(based on the reference to iistart.asp), or to the default web on IIS6
(Windows 2003), where the IIS configuration will allow home pages named:
iistart.asp
default.asp
default.htm
index.htm

You can configure IIS to allow any other default page - open IIS MMC from
Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Internet Information Services (IIS)
Manager
and choose Documents tag from the Properties sheets for the website.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

jimt said:
Stefan,

Thanks for the help. I thought I had the problem licked and got myself in
mess. Somehow I got the home page renamed (index.htm - index.html) and
published the web. Checked it out and it looked good. However when I went
back to the Nav view in FP there was a "under construction page
(isstart.asp)". Evidently FP didn't like the home page extention change.
I
tried a series of new page (w/ html extension) and rename etc. No matter
what
I did the I either got the either the index.html page + the isstart page
in
the Nav pane, or any attempt at a new page would not take as the home
page,
or at times just the isstart.asp page in the Nav pane. Eventually I lost
my
nav. links. I've reset the home page to index.htm and rebuilt the Nav
structure.

Does FP have a required home page extention (i.e htm)? If you can change
the
extention, how do you do it (i.e right click in the folder view?). Other
than
renaming is there a way to "set" a page as the home page?

Thanks again for the help
Jim T.

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Rename your home page file name to be the same as required by your host
- appears to be index.htm instead of index.html
See http://www.stonehamme.com/index.html

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|
| The URL is: http://www.stonehamme.com
| (The web for our little town in Stoneham, Maine.)
|
| Note the nav bars do not show on this index page on the host but does
how on
| the localhost. The nav bar on child pages do show; for example:
|
| http://www.stonehamme.com/about_us.htm
|
| Thanks for any help you can provide
| Jim T.
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > URL for the page?
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | > > I'm in the process of publishing my FP2000 web site. I've tried a
number
| > > of
| > > things but the navigation bar on the index.htm page will not show
on
| > > published host. The page looks fine and work OK in FP and on
localhost.
| > > I'm
| > > publishing via FP and I'm confident the extensions are "on" in my
ISP
| > > host.
| > >
| > > I've done some other tests, like creating a dummy child page with
no nav.
| > > bar then publishing and check the page via URL address. Next add
the nav
| > > bar
| > > to the dummy page and view via URL bar and it looks and works
fine. All
| > > the
| > > other pages seem to have the nav. bar OK EXCEPT the index page.
| > >
| > > This is critical to me since I just have a counter and our town
logo on
| > > the
| > > index page and rely on the nav bar to take the user to the desired
child
| > > page.
| > >
| > > Help...
| > > Thanks
| > > Jim T.
| > > stonehamme.com
| >
| >
| >
Click to expand...
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G

Guest

You are right on. I am using IIS5.1 and XP Pro. Thanks, I think that solves
the problem

Thanks all for all the help
Jim T.

Ronx said:
FrontPage does not have a required home page name or extension, but your
server does. It sounds like you are publishing to IIS5.1 on Windows XP Pro
(based on the reference to iistart.asp), or to the default web on IIS6
(Windows 2003), where the IIS configuration will allow home pages named:
iistart.asp
default.asp
default.htm
index.htm

You can configure IIS to allow any other default page - open IIS MMC from
Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Internet Information Services (IIS)
Manager
and choose Documents tag from the Properties sheets for the website.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

jimt said:
Stefan,

Thanks for the help. I thought I had the problem licked and got myself in
mess. Somehow I got the home page renamed (index.htm - index.html) and
published the web. Checked it out and it looked good. However when I went
back to the Nav view in FP there was a "under construction page
(isstart.asp)". Evidently FP didn't like the home page extention change.
I
tried a series of new page (w/ html extension) and rename etc. No matter
what
I did the I either got the either the index.html page + the isstart page
in
the Nav pane, or any attempt at a new page would not take as the home
page,
or at times just the isstart.asp page in the Nav pane. Eventually I lost
my
nav. links. I've reset the home page to index.htm and rebuilt the Nav
structure.

Does FP have a required home page extention (i.e htm)? If you can change
the
extention, how do you do it (i.e right click in the folder view?). Other
than
renaming is there a way to "set" a page as the home page?

Thanks again for the help
Jim T.

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Rename your home page file name to be the same as required by your host
- appears to be index.htm instead of index.html
See http://www.stonehamme.com/index.html

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|
| The URL is: http://www.stonehamme.com
| (The web for our little town in Stoneham, Maine.)
|
| Note the nav bars do not show on this index page on the host but does
how on
| the localhost. The nav bar on child pages do show; for example:
|
| http://www.stonehamme.com/about_us.htm
|
| Thanks for any help you can provide
| Jim T.
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > URL for the page?
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | > > I'm in the process of publishing my FP2000 web site. I've tried a
number
| > > of
| > > things but the navigation bar on the index.htm page will not show
on
| > > published host. The page looks fine and work OK in FP and on
localhost.
| > > I'm
| > > publishing via FP and I'm confident the extensions are "on" in my
ISP
| > > host.
| > >
| > > I've done some other tests, like creating a dummy child page with
no nav.
| > > bar then publishing and check the page via URL address. Next add
the nav
| > > bar
| > > to the dummy page and view via URL bar and it looks and works
fine. All
| > > the
| > > other pages seem to have the nav. bar OK EXCEPT the index page.
| > >
| > > This is critical to me since I just have a counter and our town
logo on
| > > the
| > > index page and rely on the nav bar to take the user to the desired
child
| > > page.
| > >
| > > Help...
| > > Thanks
| > > Jim T.
| > > stonehamme.com
| >
| >
| >
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
G

Guest

Well after solving some other problems and doing some file clean-up, I
republished my web. The navigation bar problem, HTM vs HTML, still exists. If
I rename my index.HTM to index.HTML under the folders pane, I get a message
about renaming the extension may make the file unstable. Answering yes on the
msg box and then returning to the navigation window there is a isstart.asp
icon next to, but not connected to the home or any other page. If go outside
of FP and open IE explorer to the localhost; I get an error msg; the file
cannot be found (via isstart).

If I leave the index.HTM extension unchanged and remove the isstart from the
nav. pane; the localhost works fine. However, if I publish the web to the
host the host version does not show the navigation bar.

In the navigation window I tried "new top page" saved it. I renamed it
index.HTML and then copied-n-paste the contents of the home-page index.HTM
onto the index.HTML page. After saving the index.HTML, I added the page to
the nav. pane and moved the child pages from index.HTM onto the index.HTML
page. Next I removed the index.HTM from the nav. pane and exited trom FP.
Open the browser to the localhost and got the "can not find file" error.

Unless I fix the problem, I will have to rename the index.HTM to index.HTML
each time before publishing and then change it back for future
changes/testing on the localhost.

Any ideas on how to fix?
Thanks
Jim T.

Ronx said:
FrontPage does not have a required home page name or extension, but your
server does. It sounds like you are publishing to IIS5.1 on Windows XP Pro
(based on the reference to iistart.asp), or to the default web on IIS6
(Windows 2003), where the IIS configuration will allow home pages named:
iistart.asp
default.asp
default.htm
index.htm

You can configure IIS to allow any other default page - open IIS MMC from
Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Internet Information Services (IIS)
Manager
and choose Documents tag from the Properties sheets for the website.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

jimt said:
Stefan,

Thanks for the help. I thought I had the problem licked and got myself in
mess. Somehow I got the home page renamed (index.htm - index.html) and
published the web. Checked it out and it looked good. However when I went
back to the Nav view in FP there was a "under construction page
(isstart.asp)". Evidently FP didn't like the home page extention change.
I
tried a series of new page (w/ html extension) and rename etc. No matter
what
I did the I either got the either the index.html page + the isstart page
in
the Nav pane, or any attempt at a new page would not take as the home
page,
or at times just the isstart.asp page in the Nav pane. Eventually I lost
my
nav. links. I've reset the home page to index.htm and rebuilt the Nav
structure.

Does FP have a required home page extention (i.e htm)? If you can change
the
extention, how do you do it (i.e right click in the folder view?). Other
than
renaming is there a way to "set" a page as the home page?

Thanks again for the help
Jim T.

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Rename your home page file name to be the same as required by your host
- appears to be index.htm instead of index.html
See http://www.stonehamme.com/index.html

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|
| The URL is: http://www.stonehamme.com
| (The web for our little town in Stoneham, Maine.)
|
| Note the nav bars do not show on this index page on the host but does
how on
| the localhost. The nav bar on child pages do show; for example:
|
| http://www.stonehamme.com/about_us.htm
|
| Thanks for any help you can provide
| Jim T.
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > URL for the page?
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | > > I'm in the process of publishing my FP2000 web site. I've tried a
number
| > > of
| > > things but the navigation bar on the index.htm page will not show
on
| > > published host. The page looks fine and work OK in FP and on
localhost.
| > > I'm
| > > publishing via FP and I'm confident the extensions are "on" in my
ISP
| > > host.
| > >
| > > I've done some other tests, like creating a dummy child page with
no nav.
| > > bar then publishing and check the page via URL address. Next add
the nav
| > > bar
| > > to the dummy page and view via URL bar and it looks and works
fine. All
| > > the
| > > other pages seem to have the nav. bar OK EXCEPT the index page.
| > >
| > > This is critical to me since I just have a counter and our town
logo on
| > > the
| > > index page and rely on the nav bar to take the user to the desired
child
| > > page.
| > >
| > > Help...
| > > Thanks
| > > Jim T.
| > > stonehamme.com
| >
| >
| >
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
G

Guest

Ronx

Sorry for the multiple posting; however, I think I've finally solved the
index and nav. bar problem. I had a flash back that I had seen a default
setting for a home page. After looking through FP I went to IIS and drilled
down to the default web. Right clicked to get properties and found HTML was
not listed. I added it and after several testing steps, returned and used the
up (button) move the HTML up to the top of the list. I still had a problem of
missing nav bar on the localhost. I deleted the nav bar on the index.HTML
page, added couple of carriage returns and inserted a new nav. bar.
Save and looked at the localhost and the problem was solved. Next I removed
the extra carriage returns (so the nav bar was up against the top shared
borders) and check the local host again. It was OK so I started the
publishing and received the message that index.HTM existed on host but not on
source, want to delete- YES).
The host now works Fine.

In summary: IIS must be configured to accept HTML. If this was in place
maybe simply renaming index.HTM to index.HTML may have worked without
creating a new page. I don't know what "tag" or ??? problem existed with the
nav bar up at the top of the page adjacent to the shared borders; but, the
above process fixed that as well.

Thanks for all your help
Jim T.

Ronx said:
FrontPage does not have a required home page name or extension, but your
server does. It sounds like you are publishing to IIS5.1 on Windows XP Pro
(based on the reference to iistart.asp), or to the default web on IIS6
(Windows 2003), where the IIS configuration will allow home pages named:
iistart.asp
default.asp
default.htm
index.htm

You can configure IIS to allow any other default page - open IIS MMC from
Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Internet Information Services (IIS)
Manager
and choose Documents tag from the Properties sheets for the website.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

jimt said:
Stefan,

Thanks for the help. I thought I had the problem licked and got myself in
mess. Somehow I got the home page renamed (index.htm - index.html) and
published the web. Checked it out and it looked good. However when I went
back to the Nav view in FP there was a "under construction page
(isstart.asp)". Evidently FP didn't like the home page extention change.
I
tried a series of new page (w/ html extension) and rename etc. No matter
what
I did the I either got the either the index.html page + the isstart page
in
the Nav pane, or any attempt at a new page would not take as the home
page,
or at times just the isstart.asp page in the Nav pane. Eventually I lost
my
nav. links. I've reset the home page to index.htm and rebuilt the Nav
structure.

Does FP have a required home page extention (i.e htm)? If you can change
the
extention, how do you do it (i.e right click in the folder view?). Other
than
renaming is there a way to "set" a page as the home page?

Thanks again for the help
Jim T.

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Rename your home page file name to be the same as required by your host
- appears to be index.htm instead of index.html
See http://www.stonehamme.com/index.html

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|
| The URL is: http://www.stonehamme.com
| (The web for our little town in Stoneham, Maine.)
|
| Note the nav bars do not show on this index page on the host but does
how on
| the localhost. The nav bar on child pages do show; for example:
|
| http://www.stonehamme.com/about_us.htm
|
| Thanks for any help you can provide
| Jim T.
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > URL for the page?
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | > > I'm in the process of publishing my FP2000 web site. I've tried a
number
| > > of
| > > things but the navigation bar on the index.htm page will not show
on
| > > published host. The page looks fine and work OK in FP and on
localhost.
| > > I'm
| > > publishing via FP and I'm confident the extensions are "on" in my
ISP
| > > host.
| > >
| > > I've done some other tests, like creating a dummy child page with
no nav.
| > > bar then publishing and check the page via URL address. Next add
the nav
| > > bar
| > > to the dummy page and view via URL bar and it looks and works
fine. All
| > > the
| > > other pages seem to have the nav. bar OK EXCEPT the index page.
| > >
| > > This is critical to me since I just have a counter and our town
logo on
| > > the
| > > index page and rely on the nav bar to take the user to the desired
child
| > > page.
| > >
| > > Help...
| > > Thanks
| > > Jim T.
| > > stonehamme.com
| >
| >
| >
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